The intangible mess that is the British parliament has done something Brexity related

I can't parse this shit but people are celebrating.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39262081

Peers backed down over the issues of EU residency rights and a meaningful vote on the final Brexit deal after their objections were overturned by MPs.

The bill is expected to receive Royal Assent and become law on Tuesday.

This means Theresa May is free to push the button on withdrawal talks - now expected in the last week of March.

This reads like fucking fanfiction. What the fuck is Royal Assent? I thought the queen didn't do anything? @Ponderous Pillock clean this shit up.
 
Royal Asset is like the President signing in stuff that Congress passes but they pretty much sign them all the time.

Last time they vetoed a bil was in 1708.
Wait so the queen literally does have to sign shit into law? Is this true with every parliamentary bill?
 
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Wait so the queen literally does have to sign shit into law? Is this true with every parliamentary bill?
Yes

Have other powers like being the only ones who have the power to declare war for example (though last declaration of war was in WW2 despite UK being in numerous conflicts since then)
 
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I can't parse this shit but people are celebrating.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39262081



This reads like fucking fanfiction. What the fuck is Royal Assent? I thought the queen didn't do anything? @Ponderous Pillock clean this shit up.

Ok, so in short:

The Lords, when the Brexit Bill arrived there decided to try and modify it to include guaranteed rights to EU nationals currently living here, and for Parliament to have a "meaningful vote" on the deal the EU's going to give us.

The UK had already made ovetures to the EU about taking current residents off the table provided the rights were reciprocated.

The EU refused, meaning 3.3 million EU nationals and 1.2 million UK nationals are now bargaining chips in the upcoming negotiations.

Cue this bit of shrieking hilarity:


The latter, May has already offered such a vote, but it's "What I negotiate or WTO rules" as the options.

Both amendments were defeated in the Commons, meaning when it went back to the Lords they had to shrug, grumble and accept the 136 word bill as is as any further delay could see May put meaningful Lords reform on her manifesto come 2020's election.

It's cleared all final hurdles in its original form (no mean feat considering the swivel eyed remainiacs in the Lords) and has now handed all authority to the government to negotiate as it wants to.
 
Yes. Sovereignty in our constitution vests in the Queen-in-Parliament. All laws begin "Be it enacted by the Queen's most excellent majesty"

I'm just waiting for the day she slaps some idiot down and tells him to come back with a bill that has some element of sanity present within it.
 
So... Brexit isn't properly happening and is getting caught up in red tape? FUCK. Does the UK enjoy being the EU's eventual test bed for Sharia Law or some shite like that?
 
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So what happens to all the trade deals the UK had with the EU? Do they have to do them all over again? Like what does the UK make that gives them economic leeway with the EU?
 
So what happens to all the trade deals the UK had with the EU? Do they have to do them all over again? Like what does the UK make that gives them economic leeway with the EU?
That's to be negotiated in the 2 years following the button press.
 
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So... Brexit isn't properly happening and is getting caught up in red tape? FUCK. Does the UK enjoy being the EU's eventual test bed for Sharia Law or some shite like that?

Uh.... no.

No, it's just cleared all the red tape and May is still well within her expected Timetable of "End of march" to inform the EU. She's actually ahead of her originally expected schedule as she is currently in no rush to get the bill royal ascent and it will be coming within the next few days. Had the process dragged for whatever reason then she may have rushed it, but had in fact planned far ahead in case there were court challenges and longer debates.

It's why the bill was kept so insanely simple to begin with, at just 136 words long, it was to cut down on the basis that they simply needed permission from Parliament to enact the referendum result thanks to the weaselling of scumbag Gina Miler who dragged an expensive case before first the High Court, then the Supreme Court.

Ironically, as Brexiteers pointed out, both parliamentarians on the remain side crowing about parliamentary sovereignty on this issue and needing a vote was proof that the process was already working.

So what happens to all the trade deals the UK had with the EU? Do they have to do them all over again? Like what does the UK make that gives them economic leeway with the EU?

We dominate financial services in such a way all the talk of Frankfurt of Paris becoming a new financial powerhouse are utterly laughable. London employs a staggering 1.5 million people in the financial services and trading sector, of which a scant 15-20% of its business being EU financial traffic.

Frankfurt and Paris, between them, boast about 70,000. It's like watching a 3 year old thinking it can go against a sumo wrestler.

We also import more from the EU than export, meaning that upon leaving we're their biggest single trading partner. It's in the EU's interest to keep the UK market sweet as we will suddenly have the entire global market at our fingertips for them to compete with for our money.

What about those agreements? The much vaunted 50-or-so agreements the EU had with external power houses like Mozambique, Libya and the Dominican Republic?

The EU's trade negotiations are an endless fucking joke and have been stalled for over a decade with actually useful agreements like CETA finding hurdle after hurdle in the way. Japanese-EU talks have been stalled for nearly a decade with no signs of them resuming.

In comparison, the UK already has a trade deal drafted and waiting to sign with Mexico, interest from MERCOSOR, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand, the USA, Canada, Nigeria, Kenya, Japan, India and China just to name a few with a lot of the Commonwealth of Nations now also steadily expressing an interest due to the UK's less guarded nature on agriculture being a likely boost for their own economies. Nearly all of them are looking at London's financial clout to help them raise money and The City will be only happy to deal for them.
 
weaselling of scumbag Gina Miler who dragged an expensive case before first the High Court, then the Supreme Court.

So let me get this straight

She spent countless thousands of dollars to say that leaving the EU requires parliamentary consent, when it is openly known and stated by the members of parliament that they accept the results of the referendum and will continue with the exit from the EU?

What, did she stall a week or 2?

It sounds like the supreme court case has decided, so there's nothing holding up Brexit anymore. And it will be even more official when parliament passes this in a couple weeks.
 
So let me get this straight

She spent countless thousands of dollars to say that leaving the EU requires parliamentary consent, when it is openly known and stated by the members of parliament that they accept the results of the referendum and will continue with the exit from the EU?

What, did she stall a week or 2?

It sounds like the supreme court case has decided, so there's nothing holding up Brexit anymore. And it will be even more official when parliament passes this in a couple weeks.

In terms of timetable?

Nothing, she just earned a lot of ire by being a metropolitan wet who felt "physically sick" on the night of the referendum and decided to see if she could derail the process by hiding behind the need for Parliament to vote on granting the PM permission. She even claims to now have private security at all times because someone put a £5000 bounty on her head to run her over in a car.

The problem is the EU referendum had more people in the UK voting than it had ever had ever and one side won. Whoever captures those voters on this issue is likely to enjoy the next decade or more of uninterrupted rule and the Tories got out of the gates first and still seem well on the way to securing enough votes whenever they go to the polls to get another round in power.

The shrieking idiots on the fringes of the Remain (who are thankfully dwindling in their ire) shriek and expect the UK to start setting fire to swathes of rights for people like women, minorities, workers rights etc as a result of Brexit and Gina Miller, being foreign born herself, aired similar concerns.

Forgetting that most EU rights are either derived from earlier UK legislation or go far beyond the minimum the EU demands of it.
 
Royal Asset is like the President signing in stuff that Congress passes but they pretty much sign them all the time.

Last time they vetoed a bil was in 1708.
Last time the crown vetoed a bill 1707. However she has declined assent on a semi reguliar basis when bills didnt yet have support of the houses. The last major one was in 1999 i think.
 
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