The Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine starts adding warning labels to its archives - WTF is that?!

[Super-Chevy454]

Sorry in advance if it's not the right section to post that news but that might be a big jump the shark moment for the Wayback Machine who decided to cuck like an asshole to MIT Technology. https://reclaimthenet.org/internet-archive-wayback-machine-warnings/

The Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine starts adding warning labels t…

archived 14 May 2020 12:17:29 UTC

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MIT Technology Review complained that it was allowing users to elude moderators and fact-checkers.

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Last month, MIT Technology Review went after the Internet Archive’s Wayback Machine – a service that preserves historical versions of webpages and allows users to access archives of these pages when they’re deleted.

MIT Technology Review complained that these archives were allowing coronavirus “misinformation” to evade moderators and fact-checkers and that these archived coronavirus articles had “better performance than most mainstream media news stories.”

Now, just a few weeks later, the Wayback Machine has started to add warning labels to some of its archives, while also forcing users to log in to view some of the archived content on the site.

The warning labels are bright yellow, appear at the top of some archived pages, and tell users when a post was removed for violating a site’s content policy.

 

[crocodilian]

I knew it was likely to happen, but I'm still sad to see it.

 

[{o}P II]

Archives of old websites might hold incorrect data

who'd a thunk it!

 

[SigSauer]

I remember back in 2017 when they cucked and removed some of Dr. Pierce's stuff. It was only a matter of time. Fucking yids ruining what's left of the internet. The only thing we have left is Tor/Lokinet now. Thanks K IKES.

I swear these Jews are trying to make the internet into Television 2.0. Except this time, the clearnet is regular TV while Tor/the deep web is the new equivalent of Public Access Television. The internet runs entirely on ads now, that's how websites are making money. The internet has become too centralized to where Google basically runs the internet now. And they can delete any results they'd like and promote only results from mainstream news sources. The SPLC/ADL have both campaigned to keep racism out of Google's search results and to prevent more Dylann Roofs from happening (ie getting redpilled by accidental searches). YouTube has done the same. After Unite the Right they began their biggest crackdown which continues to this day. Now, 99% of all content that was once up is deleted and gone forever. Hundreds, possibly thousands or even MILLIONS of hours of combined work all flushed down the drain, just like that. YouTube now has algorithms to delete or hide any comments that are racist, and FaceBook/Twitter are both doing the same.

Even alternative websites have all found problems with hosting, even if the content doesn't break any laws, and it's been a long, painful and drawn out process of keeping those sites up from constant attack.

 

[General Disarray]

This is what they wanted - total information control. They can rewrite or delete history at will. That was the only upside to newspapers, they could be retained and preserved. I suspect the Mandela Effect came onto the scene to get people to doubt their memories and then have people mock them for misremembering. What better way to stop the dissemination or retrieval of information or to gaslight a population into believing that they remember things wrong?

 

[Spamy the Bot]

To be extremely cringe cliche:
Who controls the past controls the future.
- One of the two Dystopia book everybody quotes, but nobody reads.

I remember back in 2017 when they cucked and removed some of Dr. Pierce's stuff. It was only a matter of time. Fucking yids ruining what's left of the internet. The only thing we have left is Tor/Lokinet now. Thanks K IKES.

Ah the Internet, meant to surive a Nuclear War, yet basic human nature and lust for power and control was too much.

The centrallised nature of the Internet makes it a rich target considering the ammount of bottlenecks one has to face on the surfaceweb. Even in the 90s it would have been a lot of work grabbing every single Disk laying around, but when stuff is on one server owned by a corporation whole boss plays golf with the powers that be then it's way easier. Not to mention most of the time an easy excuse can be crafted avoiding the real reason of censorship, I mean excercising their muh private property rights. The best is when they play the left and right game by greasing the skids using the bogeyman of the now. "We must correct antiwaxxers, so information online need to be verified by the authorities" or "those wacky muslims (we won't do anything about), we must have a total surveillance state now."

Most people will be simply filtered by Google and their preffered social media's filters and algorythms. You could have aliens having a dance party on the top of the White House and if they want to make it so, nobody will ever know. This is not even coming to people's dumb party preferences that they need to unlearn. People should archive everything, before stuff just get deleted off forever and nobody ever tought of saving it because it's in da cloud.

This is what they wanted - total information control. They can rewrite or delete history at will. That was the only upside to newspapers, they could be retained and preserved. I suspect the Mandela Effect came onto the scene to get people to doubt their memories and then have people mock them for misremembering. What better way to stop the dissemination or retrieval of information or to gaslight a population into believing that they remember things wrong?

The current system wants to make people mentally ill (hyperbole), you have a crazy amount of lies and slogans you need to repeat and even the history is changing every couple of years. I mean look at Mandela, a crazy racist commie rebel that got elevated into godhood by the media but instantly got forgotten after he won, because then he wasn't important enough anymore. In fact this 24 hour media cycle and contant shifts in focus (nobody cares about Libyia after Gaddafi was killed) makes people even more apathetic. It's simply overwhelming.

 

[T0oCoolFool]

I don't understand why they need to clarify that they don't endorse these old webpages. Everyone knows it's an archival site, it's not like they wrote the webpages themselves. Plus, if your whole argument is that these pages are wrong and they are fueling conspiracy theories, won't censoring it make the claims seem more legitimate? As if you have something to hide?

Over the past few years, it's gotten harder and harder to find older work, especially when it involves anything political. Wayback Machine has already been fucking up and giving bad redirects on certain articles and websites. Between this and Google making it to where you can't image search past 1 year, it's getting harder to find information.

 

[special need's H20]

I should have seen this coming. I used to follow their twitter I remember there being a lot of lib shit retweeted.

 

[CIA Nigger]

Most people will be simply filtered by Google and their preffered social media's filters and algorythms. You could have aliens having a dance party on the top of the White House and if they want to make it so, nobody will ever know. This is not even coming to people's dumb party preferences that they need to unlearn. People should archive everything, before stuff just get deleted off forever and nobody ever tought of saving it because it's in da cloud.

This is why I never used Archive.org for making archive links. Here's another good reason. If a celebrity, politician, or person of interest wants something gone they will make it go away. This is why you should also datahoard. Archive.org might call itself an archive, but the minute DMCAs or hit pieces roll in the content either goes away or gets "fact checker" approved warnings. I always make sure to download anything I give a shit about from Archive.org anyhow.

The NZ video and August 2017 were great examples of which services cave in and which don't. Expect the dark web/Tor, torrents, and decentralized services to get used a lot more. One year it's political dissidents being censored, the next year it's people trying to find information about a virus killing everyone and it's actual impact. If things really get bad, flash drives and blank discs are available cheaply these days.

 

[Pissmaster]

Shit like this is really making me think I should have some kind of plugin in my browser that saves a copy of every single website I visit.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

This is why I never used Archive.org for making archive links. Here's another good reason. If a celebrity, politician, or person of interest wants something gone they will make it go away. This is why you should also datahoard. Archive.org might call itself an archive, but the minute DMCAs or hit pieces roll in the content either goes away or gets "fact checker" approved warnings. I always make sure to download anything I give a shit about from Archive.org anyhow.

The NZ video and August 2017 were great examples of which services cave in and which don't. Expect the dark web/Tor, torrents, and decentralized services to get used a lot more. One year it's political dissidents being censored, the next year it's people trying to find information about a virus killing everyone and it's actual impact. If things really get bad, flash drives and blank discs are available cheaply these days.

I wish someone or some group would create a fork of the Wayback Machine. I know Archive.today exist but the more alternatives we have, the better.

 

[CIA Nigger]

I wish someone or some group would create a fork of the Wayback Machine. I know Archive.today exist but the more alternatives we have, the better.

One of the problems services like Archive.Today/is/fo have is that they don't always have money to pay the hosting bills. You can (and should) donate to them if you can. They recently blocked archival bots using that site to reduce bandwidth hammering.

I'm not sure if there's a FOSS way of running your own archival script yet however.

 

[Coffee Shits]

Here's what this flamingly fluorescent banner looks like, by the way:



As if there were any other fucking reason to view a historical copy, but thanks for trying to emotionally sway the audience before they can read the content for themselves. Suck my dick.

 

[Arm Pit Cream]

It's probably because of this absolutely stupid journo piece, these people push the envelope to push censorship under the guise of "misinformation" and "safety". It's really sickening how journos can come up with this bullshit that will clearly lead to further damage being done to archives.

Reminder: this is the cow shitting all over the archive

 

[thx1138]

Thanks, I just vomited a little in my mouth.

This is the type of person that should be forced to see "objectionable content" until she quits being stupid, and fat.

Jesus Christ that fat blob needs to get off the internet, out of the chair and into a gym. It's Tess Holliday as computer keyboard warrior.

Tess Holiday looks like a delicate beauty compared to that sack of shit.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Jesus Christ that fat blob needs to get off the internet, out of the chair and into a gym. It's Tess Holliday as computer keyboard warrior.

 

[Cast Iron Pan]

Wayback Machine has already been fucking up and giving bad redirects on certain articles and websites.

I think it was back in late 2016 it was they were deleting archives related to the then unfolding Wikileaks scandal. I cannot recall the details, but I watched happen a couple of times. And have not trusted them at all since then, and if I value something I keep local copy and instead almost exclusively switched to archive.is/vn/fu/etc.

Shit like this is really making me think I should have some kind of plugin in my browser that saves a copy of every single website I visit.

gildas-lormeau/SingleFile

Web Extension for Firefox/Chrome/Edge and CLI tool to save a faithful copy of an entire web page in a single HTML file - gildas-lormeau/SingleFile

github.com

SingleFile plugin is fantastic. I believe you can set it to save all of your bookmarks automatically. If you have a lot of bookmarks though... it, at least in my case, was a disaster. But I bookmark everything, and they go back a long time.

I'm not sure if there's a FOSS way of running your own archival script yet however.

SingleFile has a cli client. Surely that could be scripted into a rig easily.

 

[Fish Doctor]

Is there a general consensus on which archive site is the most reliable? Or is it better to archive on multiple sites as a backup?

 

[Vecr]

Is there a general consensus on which archive site is the most reliable? Or is it better to archive on multiple sites as a backup?

Generally, archiving to multiple sites is a good idea.

 

[Francis E. Dec Esc.]

"What happened in the unseen labyrinth to which the pneumatic tubes led, he did not know in detail, but he did know in general terms. As soon as all the corrections which happened to be necessary in any particular number of The Times had been assembled and collated, that number would be reprinted, the original copy destroyed, and the corrected copy placed on the files in its stead. This process of continuous alteration was applied not only to newspapers, but to books, periodicals, pamphlets, posters, leaflets, films, sound-tracks, cartoons, photographs -- to every kind of literature or documentation which might conceivably hold any political or ideological significance. Day by day and almost minute by minute the past was brought up to date. In this way every prediction made by the Party could be shown by documentary evidence to have been correct, nor was any item of news, or any expression of opinion, which conflicted with the needs of the moment, ever allowed to remain on record."