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ghastlyretard said:
And Windows bullshit. It's always Windows bullshit. Would another boot loader possibly be a better option? I'm open to it as long as it's capable of handling encrypted lvms and I can do secureboot
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Grub makes using multiple drives easy. Which is the only reason I use it. I don't have to manually copy anything. I just enable os-prober the the /etc/default/grub file before running grub-mkconfig.

But I also have never bothered with using luks encryption. Because I'm just not that worried about the specific security it would provide. Which is only basically physical security, if someone takes my drive/computer. Unless that's an issue/possibility it's useless. And an extra headache. As far as I know grub should work fine with luks though.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
But I also have never bothered with using luks encryption. Because I'm just not that worried about the specific security it would provide. Which is only basically physical security, if someone takes my drive/computer. Unless that's an issue/possibility it's useless. And an extra headache. As far as I know grub should work fine with luks though.
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My setup for the majority of my time on Arch has been grub launchng into luks. For some reason I was under the impression that grub was difficult to set up secureboot for, which is what prompted my move to systemd-boot. But if I'm understanding how it works, it's just a matter of seeing which files need to be signed with the key I enrolled on the TPM.
 
Why are Linux users accused of being nonces for using full disk encryption if it's a standard practice on modern devices you can buy from store. For example Windows laptops from Lenovo often come with Bitlocker and Secureboot enabled, with antitamper backed by TPM. Similar solutions in Android, ChromeOS and iOS devices.
Jelly glowies psyop or just retarded normies spreading FUD?
 

Well, not even 2 minutes into this, and I already hate them. I have heard the name before, but I can't remember what I have seen them doing/saying. But that name is very familiar.

jeff7989 said:
Why are Linux users accused of being nonces for using full disk encryption if it's a standard practice on modern devices you can buy from store.
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Because they're probably trolling.
 
I thought about what they said while I put on something else to listen to in the background as I work. By the way I highly recommend not actually wasting brain power thinking about that retarded shit.

But thinking about it. It's just so stupid. Comparing free software, to white supremacy. If you look at it from the view they take on race. How the fuck does that make free software, white supremacy/Christianity? It would literally be the opposite. Proprietary software, and the companies that own it, are so overwhelmingly the dominant force. They crush, and co-op any bit of FOSS they can. There is no world where free software wouldn't be the oppressed, in the dumb commie shit brained oppressed vs oppressor outlook these people have.

It's retarded even by these people's standards.
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
You don't need a bootloader for Linux. You could just use an EFISTUB to boot from UEFI. I use grub, though, because Gentoo integrates it well with automated kernel updates.
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I NEED a boot loader because I'm too stupid to know what an efistub is. But if I had one it'd be like 7 inches.

I went ahead and installed grub, and merged the /efi folder I had into /boot/efi. Systemd-boot is still working, which is a nice fallback since I 1) signed the wrong grub file and 2) failed to modify my /etc/default/grub to account for my cryptdevice. I'm just one more grub-mkconfig away from getting it working for secureboot into arch, but I remembered that grub's sorting doesn't work well on Arch. In the past I've modified a line in the /etc/grub.d/10_linux file but I can't find the line with linux=`version_find_latest $list'. Need to figure out how to reverse the sorting again.
Also still need to figure out how to get the grub menu to kick me into Windows properly. systemd-boot had a feature that would change a variable on the uefi to tell it to boot into Windows on the next attempt. it resulted in a power up into systemd-boot, and then a restart to get into windows but it wasn't too bad. I wonder if I could just re-encrypt my Windows disk and that would resolve the issue?

jeff7989 said:
Why are Linux users accused of being nonces for using full disk encryption
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Dude, I get the heebie jeebies typing my password in next to my girlfriend because I KNOW she thinks this about me. I've given her a password in case she ever needs to use my computer, but then she just says "well if you wanted to hide anything you'd know how" so I can't even get transparency to help with that.
prollyanotherlurker said:
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Since I moved to Linux I've actually become MORE racist, so there's some truth to this I imagine.
 
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ghastlyretard said:
Dude, I get the heebie jeebies typing my password in next to my girlfriend because I KNOW she thinks this about me.
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Why do you worry about what a child thinks about you?

prollyanotherlurker said:
Proprietary software, and the companies that own it, are so overwhelmingly the dominant force. They crush, and co-op any bit of FOSS they can.
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You don't understand: Proprietary software is native to the system and therefore inherently good. The evil FOSS colonizers, on the other hand, are trying to replace it with a flood of cheap programs. They even have the chutzpah to pretend that these programs only do the computing tasks that proprietary software doesn't want to do.
Any action taken against FOSS is justified self-defense.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
I thought about what they said while I put on something else to listen to in the background as I work. By the way I highly recommend not actually wasting brain power thinking about that retarded shit.

But thinking about it. It's just so stupid. Comparing free software, to white supremacy. If you look at it from the view they take on race. How the fuck does that make free software, white supremacy/Christianity? It would literally be the opposite. Proprietary software, and the companies that own it, are so overwhelmingly the dominant force. They crush, and co-op any bit of FOSS they can. There is no world where free software wouldn't be the oppressed, in the dumb commie shit brained oppressed vs oppressor outlook these people have.

It's retarded even by these people's standards.
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they can call it white supremacist all they want but nobody's calling it antisemitic, so we're in the clear.
 
Frederica Bernkastel said:
Here. The Arch Linux wiki says using ZFS with swap can cause a system freeze because zvol uses memory intensive operations. I use a lot of zram as a replacement for swap because I noticed WINE games would freeze up my system consistently without any swap if I played any games for too long.
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This is referring to your average swap file, not zram. zram never writes anything to disk. Proxmox has a guide to setting it up here, which should be applicable everywhere

You might be thinking of zswap which is like zram but also points to a physical disk as an overflow just in case your zram partition is exhausted. You can't use that with zfs either.

If you're currently using zram and are running out of memory you'll need to create a separate swap partition
 
jeff7989 said:
Why are Linux users accused of being nonces for using full disk encryption if it's a standard practice on modern devices you can buy from store.
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It's unnecessary and harmful security checklist CYA in most cases. Government and bigcorps do it so they can write off lost and stolen equipment without managing or understanding what data is on it or what it was used for.
 
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Frederica Bernkastel said:
You don't need a bootloader for Linux. You could just use an EFISTUB to boot from UEFI. I use grub, though, because Gentoo integrates it well with automated kernel updates.
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I just like having the convenience of having the boot menu with my drives come up automatically. If I could get the bios boot menu to prompt me by default, without having to press any key. I would probably go back to only using efistubs if not for that.
 
Nice Stick said:
It's unnecessary and harmful security checklist CYA in most cases. Government and bigcorps do it so they can write off lost and stolen equipment without managing or understanding what data is on it or what it was used for.
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prollyanotherlurker said:
But I also have never bothered with using luks encryption. Because I'm just not that worried about the specific security it would provide. Which is only basically physical security, if someone takes my drive/computer. Unless that's an issue/possibility it's useless. And an extra headache.
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You're both wrong. For one thing, if you ever have to RMA a drive you don't have to worry about the manufacturer making a copy of all your shit. For another if you ever -god forbid- somehow get caught up in the legal system (sharing linux ISOs, using muh scary DARK WEB!, etc.) you know the cops don't have anything without your password. And given both of you writing off physical security like it's worthless means you must lead charmed lives.

ghastlyretard said:
Dude, I get the heebie jeebies typing my password in next to my girlfriend because I KNOW she thinks this about me. I've given her a password in case she ever needs to use my computer, but then she just says "well if you wanted to hide anything you'd know how" so I can't even get transparency to help with that.
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What a bitch.
 
I don't get what the issue with grub is... It's worked perfect for me for secure boot without doing literally anything for 5+ years now. And it boots Windows.
Sure, I use Debian and a Debian signed kernel most of the time but it does just work

Here's the auto-generated Windows Stanza, the Volume ID is my EFI volume.
Code: 
menuentry 'Windows Boot Manager (on /dev/nvme0n1p1)' --class windows --class os $menuentry_id_option 'osprober-efi-A46D-CE30' {
        savedefault
        insmod part_gpt
        insmod fat
        search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root A46D-CE30
        chainloader /EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi
}
 
Nice Stick said:
It's unnecessary and harmful security checklist CYA in most cases. Government and bigcorps do it so they can write off lost and stolen equipment without managing or understanding what data is on it or what it was used for.
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It's useful in the specific circumstance where your computer is stolen and the thief has enough Linux knowledge to figure out how to access your files, which can be done via single-user mode or booting a live USB.

SCV said:
you know the cops don't have anything without your password
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Okay, now they are holding you in contempt of court until you provide it.
 
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