The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

prollyanotherlurker said:

Breaking news a smug Australian acts like a smug Australian for an entire video. I'm shocked. I never could have seen this coming.

Basically covering the current reaction to gnomes increased systemd reliance. With incites such as "systemd was just the better technology, that's why people adopted it", "there was 1 gnome user on artix, now there goes 40% percent of their user base" " what is it about systemd makes you not want to use it, or do you just like making things harder for yourself?"
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Videos like this are just the filmer masturbating on camera and you're kind of messed up for hatewatching it
 
Bros, just use WindowMaker. It's all you need. I even have a spinning cube for a dockapp!!! spinning-cube-stop looking here you filthy nigger.gif
 
Nice Stick said:
Miguel de Icaza, the creator of GTK and Gnome, uses a Mac.
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Yes and after he stepped down as the project lead, I think after early Gnome 2 release, Gnome eventually went to complete shit and has been a fucking mess since.

I can give him a pass for jumping to OS X back in 2013 when Apple's operating system team was independent of iOS but I think he is irrelevant now although that doesn't invalidate his very early contributions to Linux desktop.

I miss the old days of Gnome 2...
 
jONALD said:
Bros, just use WindowMaker. It's all you need. I even have a spinning cube for a dockapp!!!View attachment 7990693
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garfield be careful around tesseract

ellroy said:
Yes and after he stepped down as the project lead, I think after early Gnome 2 release, Gnome eventually went to complete shit and has been a fucking mess since.

I can give him a pass for jumping to OS X back in 2013 when Apple's operating system team was independent of iOS but I think he is irrelevant now although that doesn't invalidate his very early contributions to Linux desktop.

I miss the old days of Gnome 2...
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if i could afford a mac back in the gnome 2 days i would probably be an apple fanboy instead of a linux user just because vista was hot garbage and linux was somewhat usable for basic tasks provided you were using open source software for your entire stack
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
Actually. It's not a fork. But Cosmic is super heavily inspired by the newer gnome. To it's credit. It at least seems like it will eventually be a slightly less shitty gnome once it get's a full release.
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so like a remake? Makes sense as the Gnome code must be spaghetti by now
 
Betonhaus said:
so like a remake? Makes sense as the Gnome code must be spaghetti by now
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Yeah. Well I'm sure people here won't like this, but they wrote it in rust lol. The purpose of it wasn't to do the rewrite it in rust thing though. They wanted to move off of relying on gnome, and their shitty decisions, and set up a desktop that worked like it did. That meet's their needs. Also I think they wanted to fix the theming issues, and other things that gnome caused.
 
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prollyanotherlurker said:
" what is it about systemd makes you not want to use it, or do you just like making things harder for yourself?"
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OpenRC be like:

Code: 
rc-update add/del <service> <runlevel>
rc-service <service> start/stop
rc-status --all

Wow. So fucking hard. Impossible to read. Oh, wait, Dinit uses .ini files for configuring services like systemd but isn't systemd-adjacent in any other way? OpenRC supports parallel startup, but as of currently that's considered experimental right now.

Classical. Brodie's even trying to defend his obnoxiously unfunny intro.
 
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Trans Fat 41g said:
OpenRC be like:

Code: 
rc-update add/del <service> <runlevel>
rc-service <service> start/stop
rc-status --all

Wow. So fucking hard. Impossible to read. Oh, wait, Dinit uses .ini files for configuring services like systemd but isn't systemd-adjacent in any other way? It supports parallel startup but that's considered experimental right now.

Classical. Brodie's even trying to defend his obnoxiously unfunny intro.
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As far as I know he has never even tried anything other than arch. I could be wrong, but I know he's ran arch the entire time he has been using linux. I have a feeling he really has no idea.

If you call needed different commands to start services harder, then sure. I would say that's retarded, but that's just me. I'm struggling trying to think of anything that is genuinely harder to do on non-systemd distros. Now days most of them even have ways to do user services. Especially now that turnstile is here. The only arguement I could see. Is if you wanted to write either sysv style services, or openrc services, and you have no idea how bash scripting works. Usually you really don't need to do that, and also a lot of the time the kind of service you need to write yourself is a simple command, so its not that hard to figure out.

Basically that was a retarded rage-bait question he asked.


alright site stopped being broken long enough for me to get the second half of the nixos tranny takeover drama timeline posted. I have some vague plans to see if I can look into the drama that followed it. And write up some kind of coherent timeline on how we got to the current insanity that's happening. Which is basically the trannies (the moderation team) that have 99% control over nix throwing a fit because they aren't able to completely control everything.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
I'm struggling trying to think of anything that is genuinely harder to do on non-systemd distros.
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Not harder but more annoying and time consuming: even on Artix where most programs come with a program-initsystem package, some programs still require you to make the service from scratch or fix the one in the package because for some reason it doesn't work anymore. More of an annoyance than anything but at the 4th or 5th time it becomes a chore
 
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