The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

Is it currently possible to run a wayland only system that does not have X11 installed, bit even to run Xwayland? I'm still a little confused about that because my understanding is that the X11 binaries are still needed for compatibility

Yeah XWayland basically just runs its own X server. You still need Xorg. The binaries XWayland needs are packaged separately in Fedora though.

You can technically run a Wayland-only system (with no XWayland either) but a ton of applications won't work.

 

[Betonhaus]

It's a little annoying that I seem to be the only person on the internet even remotely interested in trying to get Xlibre working on Debian. Kinda makes it feel pointless to be bashing my head in the wall trying to figure out basic shit like metapackages. Maybe I'll have more luck with Ubuntu, but you need Debain 13 or Ubuntu 25+ to pull it off and LMDE7 comes out by the end of the year but Linux Mint 23 won't be out until late 2026 at the earliest.

 

[Max Weber]

It's a little annoying that I seem to be the only person on the internet even remotely interested in trying to get Xlibre working on Debian. Kinda makes it feel pointless to be bashing my head in the wall trying to figure out basic shit like metapackages. Maybe I'll have more luck with Ubuntu, but you need Debain 13 or Ubuntu 25+ to pull it off and LMDE7 comes out by the end of the year but Linux Mint 23 won't be out until late 2026 at the earliest.

If it makes you feel any better, packaging is especially important to younger projects, and if and when you do it, it will be a valuable contribution. Especially if you manage to automate it.

 

[jeff7989]

Here's why you should never update your fortune package.



Edit. As for Arch DDOS, AUR is not working for me. Packages are on mirrors and I haven't used forum in a long while so no problem. Why would someone attack Arch of all places? Retards mad that their malicious PKGBUILDs were removed?

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

I assume most people using xlibre don't want to run it, on a kid diddler distro.

That's probably the reason.

 

[analrapist]

It's a little annoying that I seem to be the only person on the internet even remotely interested in trying to get Xlibre working on Debian.

I am also interested in this, but the big differentiator for me was the Bicha BS. To say nothing of being swamped in responsibility right now. I'm content with Artix being my binary distro of choice and Gentoo being my daily driver. The DEB packaging system, however, deserves to be obsoleted far more than Xorg.

I expect the whole retooling is a day or afternoon's worth of hacking for me. I just don't have the initiative or energy right now.

If someone wants to spearhead this and can reduce my role to some consulting here and there, I'm happy to help out. This isn't a technically challenging job.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

WezTerm is fire fr fr

 

[Betonhaus]

I am also interested in this, but the big differentiator for me was the Bicha BS. To say nothing of being swamped in responsibility right now. I'm content with Artix being my binary distro of choice and Gentoo being my daily driver. The DEB packaging system, however, deserves to be obsoleted far more than Xorg.

I expect the whole retooling is a day or afternoon's worth of hacking for me. I just don't have the initiative or energy right now.

If someone wants to spearhead this and can reduce my role to some consulting here and there, I'm happy to help out. This isn't a technically challenging job.

I can get Xlibre to compile and install using that weird ninja tool it calls for, but until I figure out how to make Cinnamon and such recognize it as a X11 server it isn't useful to me. And I have to do the make and make install for libinput and the Xlibre version of the drivers, but when I tried last it gave errors about X11 not being installed.

I think I'll be busy this weekend but I think next weekend I'll make a thread about my progress and asking for help on the next steps. It would be funny if the Kiwifarms spearhead the port of Xlibre to the kiddy diddler distro (I just want it for Linux Mint, and I'll settle for LMDE7)

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

I figured out what was causing my touchpad to not work on certain reboots. There's like a five year old bug where the i2c_hid_acpi module doesn't load sometimes after boot. The fix was as simple as making a service script that does it automatically.

If you only want to see one window at once, you can use a tiling window manager in tabbed or 'monocle' mode, using keyboard shortcuts to switch between windows. There probably exists one that allows you to do window switching based off thumbnails of the full sized windows.
EDIT: And there is a program called

I was going to recommend skippy-xd, however, in my experience it can lead to memory issues and froze my shit. Maybe because I was using it a lot, but it would slow down my PC or drop inputs randomly. Wayfire has an excellent expo mode to replace it. Also supports per workspace wallpaper.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Jesus Christ is Kent really not get why he ran into problems? Or is he just playing dumb? Either way. I can't imagine they will lift the freeze. It's obvious he still doesn't get what the problem was.

Even if he is right about some of his criticisms. The issue with that is, they are completely irrelevant to the actual issue. Just misdirection.

And something that I don't think he will acknowledge. Is who's fault is it he had to merge that after the merge window closed? As far as I know he was the one responsible for the problems in the first place. So it's not going to be anyone else's fault his file system will need to wait for the next merge window for the fix. That's besides the point though.

I figured out what was causing my touchpad to not work on certain reboots. There's like a five year old bug where the i2c_hid_acpi module doesn't load sometimes after boot. The fix was as simple as making a service script that does it automatically.

This might not be all distros. But if you make a /etc/modprobe.d file for it you might be able to just get it to load like that instead of making a script. That or just use one of the services provided by your distro. Openrc for sure has one for it, systemd I would think probably does too.

 

[Seminar]

Hello i have a reaccuring problem i have a 2nd older PC that i decided to use to fuck around in linux however i canont connect to the internet i have a router (ZXHN H168N V3.1) and before fucking around i had win10 installation that had same problem but somehow i fixed it but that was ages ago and now i dont remember how i did it. Then i installed Mint but the perfomance was shit so months after that i installed (now) CachyOS but i have same problem as before i think the problem has something to do with assigning IP adress but im not sure and i dodnt know where to set it on linux.
My main pc uses Lan1 while 2nd one uses Lan3 if i take Lan1 and plug it in 2nd pc i get net but then the main pc dosent have the net so can anybody here help the retard (me) ?

 

[Froggy Fresh Sextape]

Jesus Christ is Kent really not get why he ran into problems? Or is he just playing dumb? Either way. I can't imagine they will lift the freeze. It's obvious he still doesn't get what the problem was.

He has the debilitating autism. He would've gotten farther trying to push the merge as a bugfix.

It sucks because bcachefs is pretty cool, much like reiser4 was back in the day, but whoops

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

This might not be all distros. But if you make a /etc/modprobe.d file for it you might be able to just get it to load like that instead of making a script. That or just use one of the services provided by your distro. Openrc for sure has one for it, systemd I would think probably does too.

It has to be a script because you have to remove it, and then load it again, for it work. It looks like a firmware bug. The module is loaded, but the touchpad does not work unless I remove and reload it.

Hello i have a reaccuring problem i have a 2nd older PC that i decided to use to fuck around in linux however i canont connect to the internet i have a router (ZXHN H168N V3.1) and before fucking around i had win10 installation that had same problem but somehow i fixed it but that was ages ago and now i dont remember how i did it. Then i installed Mint but the perfomance was shit so months after that i installed (now) CachyOS but i have same problem as before i think the problem has something to do with assigning IP adress but im not sure and i dodnt know where to set it on linux.
My main pc uses Lan1 while 2nd one uses Lan3 if i take Lan1 and plug it in 2nd pc i get net but then the main pc dosent have the net so can anybody here help the retard (me) ?

Do you have dhcpcd enabled( systemctl enable dhcpcd)? Do you know the name of your wireless card? Check to see if it has a DKMS module or see if it's built into the kernel.

 

[Seminar]

systemctl enable dhcpcd

It says that it dosent exist and for other stuff idk how to look for that

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

It says that it dosent exist and for other stuff idk how to look for that

Try systemctl enable dhcpcd.service

 

[Seminar]

I think all this shit is message from god that i should just fuck off to Win10 but even then i had same problem that i fixed somehow but i forgot how.....

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

I think all this shit is message from god that i should just fuck off to Win10 but even then i had same problem that i fixed somehow but i forgot how.....

I'm pretty sure it is. Are you on Arch? You could grab the file from here using "Download Mirror" put in on a usb, mount it using mount /mnt or any empty folder (using sudo lsblk) to get the drive's name like /dev/sda. /dev/sda being the drive that doesn't have dhcpcd. Use pacman -U to install the gz file.

If that's too much; you could always just reinstall Arch using the TUI installer, and remember to add dhcpcd as an additional package. I mean, we've all been through it. I deal with shit like this sometimes. But, if you keep at it, you'll be happy with yourself. Trust me.

 

[Dread First]

Perhaps I'm a glutton for self-inflicted punishment, but I decided to crack my knuckles and give Fedora 42 KDE a whirl on that same portable hard drive after ranting about Wayland earlier in the thread. Surprisingly enough, Wayland on KDE doesn't shit itself like it does on GNOME Shell with my hardware... despite Fedora Workstation being the flagship for Red Hat, Wayland, and GNOME Shell.



Honestly, not even gonna bother putting Fedora 42 KDE through its paces on Wayland; if Deus Ex GOTY and Dark Souls PTDE shat themselves on Wayland under GNOME shell, I damn sure ain't gonna bother trying again on Fedora 42 KDE. As it stands? Haven't seen much (if any) graphical artefacting, it's "tolerable" for basic web browsing, and does what I want it to do. Of course... it would be nice if Wayland didn't stutter and hang every time I'm using Alt+Tab or even manually clicking between windows. Is it a problem with Wayland itself? Is it an issue with the compositor? Who knows? Who cares? Even if I pursue the proper channels for assistance and give every single goddamn error log and journalctl output, my woes will either get redirected into a circular pattern of "wayland's fault -> no we did it right, it's the compositor's fault -> tf you talkin bout? we did it right, the wayland niggas are being obstinate" or ultimately getting WONTFIXed by some sanctimonious faggot.

Brb installing xorg and lamenting how XLibre won't ever be available on Fedora by design because it's a Red Hat project and Red Hat will be damned if they let XLibre touch their shit. Then again... who knows? Maybe the RPM Fusion team will host XLibre binaries for when Red Hat inevitably decides to shitcan Xorg altogether from their official repos.

EDIT: First time I'm also willfully using LibreWolf over Firefox because all the bullshit Firefox on Fedora comes with is inescapable even on a fucking fresh profile.

 

[SCV]

Do you have dhcpcd enabled( systemctl enable dhcpcd)? Do you know the name of your wireless card? Check to see if it has a DKMS module or see if it's built into the kernel.

Try systemctl enable dhcpcd.service

I'm pretty sure it is. Are you on Arch? You could grab the file from here using "Download Mirror" put in on a usb, mount it using mount /mnt or any empty folder (using sudo lsblk) to get the drive's name like /dev/sda. /dev/sda being the drive that doesn't have dhcpcd. Use pacman -U to install the gz file.

If that's too much; you could always just reinstall Arch using the TUI installer, and remember to add dhcpcd as an additional package. I mean, we've all been through it. I deal with shit like this sometimes. But, if you keep at it, you'll be happy with yourself. Trust me.

bruh, this guy is obviously profoundly retarded and is not going to be able to use kernel modules. I also don't know where you got that he has a wireless card because he talks about swapping ethernet cables (and never mentions wireless...). Further he says that swapping cables makes it work so I really doubt this is to do with a service on his PC.

My main pc uses Lan1 while 2nd one uses Lan3 if i take Lan1 and plug it in 2nd pc i get net but then the main pc dosent have the net

Hey, retard. Your router is mis-configured somehow. I can't speculate how you might have fucked it up but I do have a suggestion commensurate with your skill level. Buy a 10$ 4-port 1gbps switch, plug the upstream (the one port that's separate) of that into "Lan1" then plug both computers into the swtich.

If you really want to push yourself to the limit try assigning the PC connected to "Lan3" a private IP and make it the IP of the working computer but add 1 to the last number. And stop making stream-of-consciousness posts.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

Brb installing xorg and lamenting how XLibre won't ever be available on Fedora by design because it's a Red Hat project and Red Hat will be damned if they let XLibre touch their shit. Then again... who knows? Maybe the RPM Fusion team will host XLibre binaries for when Red Hat inevitably decides to shitcan Xorg altogether from their official repos.

The Xorg/Xlibre/Wayland wars made everyone forget about Arcan

I also don't know where you got that he has a wireless card

Just assumed because even my desktops came with wireless cards. Often, realtek bluetooth cards have wireless bundled. RTL8821CE is a good example.