The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

This was addressed 21 years ago. https://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/rants/bsd4linux/01

Like all things, it depends on what you prefer/whether it works for you.
BSD spergs are mad because corporations are free to fork the OS and use it commercially, and have done a great job about it. All kinds of normies use PlayStations and Apple devices running some BSD fork without ever realizing they are aykchually using a niche OS.

If you disregard Android, as it's something completely different, Linux the desktop OS will only get there with the help from Valve. The trannies and pötterheads cannot ever bring order to the galaxy the way our Gabeler can.
 
I checked out plasma-bigscreen today on my HTPC. It sucks ass and this is the supposedly stable version that is in the repositories yet it managed to crash. By default it doesn't support controller navigation you have to go back to desktop settings, enable a janky setting that allows using your controller as a mouse and keyboard.

I hope it improves since KODI is on its last legs and steam big picture isn't the gretest either since there's no way to configure it so you don't have to dig through the library to get to jellyfin. For now I'm back to using Batocera.
 
I think you meant GPL spergs. I don't think BSD people really care.
Indeed, I used the Farms definition of sperging, so what BSD spergs means in this case is GPL fans talking negatively about BSD and its license.

It's the opposite of what it would normally mean (enthusiastically/obsessively talking about your favorite topic).
 
EDIT: apparently Debian isn't actually going ahead with this (yet) and this was an attempted coup of sorts in the development branch.
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That's all these fuckers do is take-over and co-opt shit for their own personal goals. They are a physical cancer in society.
 
EDIT: apparently Debian isn't actually going ahead with this (yet) and this was an attempted coup of sorts in the development branch.
Thank fuck. All my servers run it (except an ancient Core 2 Duo machine).

I do not like Rust. It is a PITA. It is what TypeScript is to JavaScript. It's supposed to fix a bunch of issues but in reality creates a whole new bunch of issues.
 
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typescript is better than javascript tho
The problem is the tooling in the JS ecosystem and how it works with TypeScript. TypeScript would be fine on its own, but like C#, everything got too complicated around 2020.
They also wrote the compiler in fucking JavaScript initially. So you needed a 5 GHz processor to compile anything other than a trivial Angular codebase in any reasonable amount of time. It isn't much better if you aren't using a large framework.

If you want to do vanilla JS or use bits and pieces of React. It is a PITA unless you use Vite to scaffold your project and then you have problems with HMR and the like (which I won't get into here).

Then you have all sorts of problems with Babel / tsx / ts-node when trying to run test runners/frameworks like Jest.
Babel is a Rube Goldberg machine where, instead of the compiler taking the code and spitting out, say, ES5-style code, it has to translate it through some bunch of plugins.
Avoiding Babel means using ts-node or "tsx", which has nothing to do with React, confusingly. That has its own bunch of foibles which also wastes huge amounts of time.

Before AI came out, it took me two whole days to fix this, and I was good at it (at least compared to my peers). Countless man hours have been wasted on these fucking translation layers. So often people wouldn't touch it, and you would be running insecure versions of pretty much everything because if you did an upgrade, the whole thing might blow up in your face.

This is all because the compiler nerds got involved and decided that instead of just having a target environment (browser, Node.js, Deno or whatever), you have various levels of support and different features that only help with IOC/DI wankery, weird module standards and other shit that nobody uses outside of Silicon Valley and Nashville. To make matters worse, instead of just including polyfills now as a script file in head there is some polyfill project that you have to use now instead of just including the script manually. So the old grug ways of doing things often aren't easy.

This is all done to appease people like compiler nerds and people that don't understand how to write JS without like 1000 libs in the background.

I hate this all because I actually bothered learning JS back in the day by actually reading some books on it, and I understand how the VM / interpreters work under the hood and can write some really fast JS code. So to me this is all overhead that isn't necessary and makes it a miserable experience to try to get anything done.

If you compare this with just ES6 improvements that work fine in every major browser and actually learn JavaScript, none of this gumpf is needed.
TypeScript feels like another Microsoft psy-op trick that they played on the industry. Countless devs have been brainwashed by this, instead of just reading the Rhino book or something like that.

My limited experience with Rust and trying to get large projects to compile is exactly the same as TypeScript. You often have a bunch of Rube Goldberg machine stuff, like task runners (just), a package manager, and LLVM somewhere to even start compiling. Basically everyone assumes you are using Arch or Ubuntu, and if it isn't one of those, the attitude is "Well, we don't care."
 
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BSD spergs are mad because corporations are free to fork the OS and use it commercially, and have done a great job about it. All kinds of normies use PlayStations and Apple devices running some BSD fork without ever realizing they are aykchually using a niche OS.
All that money sunk into BSD that no one in the FOSS side gets to enjoy because of the cuckold license.

Say what you will about linuxtroons, but they're definitely not cucks.

Since the topic of the *BSDs has come up again, I must once again remind the thread that while Linux is full of woke bullshit because of troons, BSD is full of woke bullshit because it is run by fat, middle-aged anglo eunuchs and that is probably worse because they'll dedicate talks entirely to their ebin chud-owning exploits:
 
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All that money sunk into BSD that no one in the FOSS side gets to enjoy because of the cuckold license.
The GPL is subverted by large corps when it suits them, e.g., like Tivovisation (which is why GPL3 was created).
Companies also have modified versions of stuff that they put proprietary APIs that they serve over the network. That is why the AGPL licences were created.

Companies will subvert open source when they want to and already have done so quite a number of times.
Pretending that the licence somehow protects you against this is a fantasy.

As for Stallman, he likes to brainwash people like any good politician by subtly redefining words.
He redefined freedom to mean less freedom, and people will constantly defend it.
But because you and others happen to agree with it, it is fine that he subtly redefines the term freedom.
Say what you will about linuxtroons, but they're definitely not cucks.
No, they are worse. They constantly try to subvert projects, cause endless drama and make it embarrassing to watch/turn up to tech conferences.
Since the topic of the *BSDs has come up again, I must once again remind the thread that while Linux is full of woke bullshit because of troons, BSD is full of woke bullshit because it is run by fat, middle-aged anglo eunuchs and that is probably worse because they'll dedicate talks entirely to their ebin chud-owning exploits:
I've seen that, and it is indeed cringe. They got plenty of pushback in the comments before they turned them off. It was also 13 9 years ago.

Like it or not, most of the open-source and free software world is filled with a combination typically of shitlibs/liberal/lefty and communist types. I've said it earlier in this thread; I don't agree with any of their political positions, and the beauty of it is that I don't have to. Unlike various employers and clients, where I had to pay lip service to it.
 
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Good news: a beloved friend of mine made the jump to Linux.
Bad news: Unfortunately, X11 is a fundamental non-starter because he has multiple HDR monitors. He needs Wayland.

Good news: He did try Linux Mint first, and it almost worked.
Bad news: Unfortunately, the outdated kernel+Mesa stack screwed with him long before the HDR issue kicked in. He tossed a coin on Nobara and CachyOS, and it landed on CachyOS.

Good news: CachyOS apparently handles his HDR multi-monitor setup, his 5:1 surround sound setup, and his Zen3+RDNA2 GPU works without issue.
Bad news: Anything remotely interesting for his purposes requires the AUR, and he got into CachyOS right around the time of that horrible supply chain malware attack. He distrusts the AUR and refuses to touch it.

Good news: He's actually picking up Linux fundamentals fairly quickly. That started happening right around when he gave up on using ChatGPT and Claude for troubleshooting help because he kept running out of tokens and refused to use the basic models.
Bad news: He hates how much of a ball ache it is to do anything in Linux graphically and how a terminal and a text editor are the most consistent ways to fix minor configuration issues.

I feel like Dr. Emerald McS et al weeping in front of his Emacs console while writing a diary entry about how VSCode is actually good now because Microsoft kept pumping money into it.
 
Good news: a beloved friend of mine made the jump to Linux.
Bad news: Unfortunately, X11 is a fundamental non-starter because he has multiple HDR monitors. He needs Wayland.

Good news: He did try Linux Mint first, and it almost worked.
Bad news: Unfortunately, the outdated kernel+Mesa stack screwed with him long before the HDR issue kicked in. He tossed a coin on Nobara and CachyOS, and it landed on CachyOS.

Good news: CachyOS apparently handles his HDR multi-monitor setup, his 5:1 surround sound setup, and his Zen3+RDNA2 GPU works without issue.
Bad news: Anything remotely interesting for his purposes requires the AUR, and he got into CachyOS right around the time of that horrible supply chain malware attack. He distrusts the AUR and refuses to touch it.

Good news: He's actually picking up Linux fundamentals fairly quickly. That started happening right around when he gave up on using ChatGPT and Claude for troubleshooting help because he kept running out of tokens and refused to use the basic models.
Bad news: He hates how much of a ball ache it is to do anything in Linux graphically and how a terminal and a text editor are the most consistent ways to fix minor configuration issues.

I feel like Dr. Emerald McS et al weeping in front of his Emacs console while writing a diary entry about how VSCode is actually good now because Microsoft kept pumping money into it.
Frankly, after everything I would be distrustful of the AUR too. What DE/WM did he settle on with CachyOS?
 
With GPUs being so expensive now that might be a little less of an issue for many people, but Fedora Cinnamon usually supports the latest hardware right?
I would hope so but when I tried it for a mediaPC with a Ryzen APU from ~2020 I needed PPAs to get output of 60FPS over 30 (display can do 120, which I know is a hdmi licensing issue). HDR support was almost non existent, etc.
 
Anything remotely interesting for his purposes requires the AUR, and he got into CachyOS right around the time of that horrible supply chain malware attack. He distrusts the AUR and refuses to touch it.
Teach they/them how to read PKGBUILDs before installing stuff. It''s not hard, pretty much same skills required from corpo drones for filtering out phishing emails. With some help from Claude you can roll out your own repo based on custom pkgbuilds.
 
Also, the GPL is subverted all the time. If I were Google and made a bunch of changes to the Linux kernel and ran it on my own servers, there would be no need to contribute back.
Ok so this was actually debunked in the 80s
I'll point you to a lecture I think everyone needs to watch about early Unix development and why stallman had to do what he did
Gpl didn't come into existence for no reason, people were either using proprietary licenses like Unix or permissive licenses which were then called copy-center as opposed to copyleft or copyright
The problem with this license people found was nobody wanted to collaborate on projects when businesses want proprietary software licenses. So the Gpl actually did prevent this and companies weren't just flippantly violating Gpl every time they needed gpled code, but they were doing that with permissive licensed software like bsd, and that has been a major problem for them that affects them to this day.
 
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