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We've had tons of different threads talking about Mozilla and its various projects, not to mention the many times that others (like me) have sperged about them in other threads. Something sorely lacking here on the Farms is a catch-all Mozilla thread to consolidate all this stuff together.

HISTORY & CONTEXT

Mozilla, as we know it, is the Mozilla Foundation first, with two distinct subsidiaries that proceed from it.

Wikipedia said:
The Mozilla Foundation (stylized as moz://a) is an American non-profit organization that exists to support and collectively lead the open source Mozilla project. Founded in July 2003, the organization sets the policies that govern development, operates key infrastructure and controls Mozilla trademarks and copyrights. It owns two taxable subsidiaries: the Mozilla Corporation, which employs many Mozilla developers and coordinates releases of the Mozilla Firefox web browser, and MZLA Technologies Corporation, which employs developers to work on the Mozilla Thunderbird email client and coordinate its releases. The Mozilla Foundation was founded by the Netscape-affiliated Mozilla Organization. The organization is currently based in the Silicon Valley city of Mountain View, California, United States.

The first subsidiary is the Mozilla Corporation. The relationship between Mozilla Corporation and the Mozilla Foundation was summarised in MozillaZine back in 03AUG2005.

MozillaZine said:
The Mozilla Foundation will ultimately control the activities of the Mozilla Corporation and will retain its 100 percent ownership of the new subsidiary. Any profits made by the Mozilla Corporation will be invested back into the Mozilla project. There will be no shareholders, no stock options will be issued and no dividends will be paid. The Mozilla Corporation will not be floating on the stock market and it will be impossible for any company to take over or buy a stake in the subsidiary. The Mozilla Foundation will continue to own the Mozilla trademarks and other intellectual property and will license them to the Mozilla Corporation. The Foundation will also continue to govern the source code repository and control who is allowed to check in.

Administrative problems throughout the 2010s led to Mozilla spinning off the Thunderbird project into its own subsidiary of the Mozilla Foundation on 28JAN2020.

Thunderbird Blog Post said:
Moving to MZLA Technologies Corporation will not only allow the Thunderbird project more flexibility and agility, but will also allow us to explore offering our users products and services that were not possible under the Mozilla Foundation. The move will allow the project to collect revenue through partnerships and non-charitable donations, which in turn can be used to cover the costs of new products and services.

While Firefox and Thunderbird are the two biggest projects that the Mozilla Foundation is ultimately responsible for stewarding, there is an oft-overlooked third project that Mozilla stewards: the SeaMonkey browser. What is SeaMonkey, you may ask?

SeaMonkey's About section on the website said:
The SeaMonkey project is a community effort to develop the SeaMonkey all-in-one internet application suite. Such a software suite was previously made popular by Netscape and Mozilla, and the SeaMonkey project continues to develop and deliver high-quality updates as well as new features and improvements to this concept. Containing an Internet browser, email & newsgroup client, HTML editor, IRC chat and web development tools, SeaMonkey is sure to appeal to advanced users, web developers and corporate users.

SeaMonkey is built on the open source Mozilla Gecko engine, the same code which underlies the highly successful Thunderbird and is the base for the Firefox browser. SeaMonkey benefits from the cross-fertilization with these other projects, by gaining (and contributing) new features and the ongoing security updates which are a modern necessity. The SeaMonkey Association provides legal backing for the SeaMonkey Project.

If you're old enough to remember the Mozilla Application Suite, then SeaMonkey is the logical continuation of that browser. SeaMonkey notably retains XUL/XPCOM support, a feature that Firefox deprecated in 2017 with the transition to WebExtensions. SeaMonkey also retains the MAS email client and ChatZilla for IRC. I'm not well-versed in SeaMonkey lore, so I'll leave that discussion for people who are more autistic than I am.

SNEED'S RSS FEEDS & LINKS

Links and feeds of interest for anyone who cares

Mozilla Blog (Firefox & Firefox-branded services, such as Pocket, Relay, VPN, etc): https://blog.mozilla.org/feed/
Thunderbird Blog (Thunderbird & Thunderbird sub-projects like K-9 mail): https://blog.thunderbird.net/feed/
SeaMonkey Blog (all updates relating to SeaMonkey): https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/feed/

*** THREAD OP IS A WORK IN PROGRESS; THIS IS A HUGE ASS TOPIC, I'D APPRECIATE HELP AND SUGGESTIONS ***

TODO
1. Recent developments from each project
2. Basic outline of controversies that Mozilla had, and there ain't any shortage of them
3. Add Mozilla developer documentation links, possibly repo links too?
4. Drawing a blank here, more needs to be done but again - too broad in scope for me to immediately think of something.
 
I remember being content with Firefox until with each update, it kept removing all my extensions just because. I assume cause I don't have a mozilla account to preserve them.
I switched between multiple browsers (brave, chromium, etc.) and only settled with Librewolf. Not as much as a /g/ meme as I had feared. I referred to this website to settle on which program. I would have stayed with chromium if it weren't for its obnoxiously demanding ram usage, but I won't lie and say I don't have a soft spot for firefox-like interfaces.

That being said, I look forward to reading this thread.
 
I don't know whether Google infiltrated them to woke it up or not but they are 100% kept around as an antitrust shield. Token competition at it's finest.
...not that the US Government has been good with following through with those recently. After all, we know that Microsoft was *thoroughly* punished for all of it's illegal bad behaviour in the 90's!
 
Brendan hates fags.
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God hates fags.
how about you?
 
DigDeeper: Mozilla - Devil Incarnate (archive)

Mozilla kills Firefox OS in 2015.

August 18, 2020: Laying the foundation for Rust's future (archive)
On Tuesday, August 11th 2020, Mozilla announced their decision to restructure the company and to lay off around 250 people, including folks who are active members of the Rust project and the Rust community. Understandably, these layoffs have generated a lot of uncertainty and confusion about the impact on the Rust project itself. Our goal in this post is to address those concerns.

May 26, 2023: Mozilla so sorry for intrusive Firefox VPN popup ad (archive)
Mozilla managed to annoy many Firefox users this week by presenting an unwanted ad for its VPN service, and has since suspended the promotional initiative.
This is not the first time Mozilla has annoyed users with unwanted ads. In 2020, Mozilla forced push notifications on Firefox users without permission to promote its blog post about the StopHateForProfit coalition, which tried to pressure Facebook to deal with harmful content. The company faced similar blowback in 2017 for its Mr. Robot promotional add-on.
 
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Thunderbird has been treated by Mozilla as a unloved bastard child for years, however there isn't really any better option when it comes to e-mail clients nowadays. Claws Mail? Sylpheed? Seamonkey? Vivaldi? Outlook? About every other option is more shit, while Thunderbird remains to be the least shit of them all.

However there exists soft fork of Thunderbird called Betterbird. From what I understand it's been started by a previous Thunderbird project maintainer who had a problem with how badly it's been treated, and at some point he has been kicked out of Mozilla but continues to develop this soft fork, with many of it's fixes getting integrated into the main branch of Thunderbird.

I don't know the exact details of how it went down so maybe someone else can add more context to that, but personally I've switched to Betterbird because it has extra features and tweaks that make it a nicer experience than just pure Thunderbird. And since it's a soft fork you can basically switch back and forth between the two and it'll work just fine.

And don't even try to cry about the Ukrainian flag on the Betterbird site, because you can dig out more "poz dirt" on Mozilla itself. This is the reality of FOSS projects, and the only way to get away from this shit is to do a Ted K and live in a shed in the middle of nowhere. At least with FOSS you can check the code since it's not a pre-compiled black box if you're a schizo.

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Brendan Eich is a grifter that had nothing to do with Mozilla for years. Brave grifts as much as Gab, and if you truly care about privacy then you should stick to Firefox and forks deriving from it like Librewolf.

Firefox may be forcing an annoying VPN ad in-browser, but Brendan's grift went a step further with Brave installing a VPN client without the user's consent. Truly a trustworthy product you can count on that is in no way a deliberate grift to make money on privacytards that don't know any better.

He bent the knee to the banks and essentially killed off BAT so his browser is worthless now. If you want a nice Chrome alternative with plenty of features, go with Vivaldi. If you want actual real privacy at a cost of any fancy features, go with Librewolf.
 
He bent the knee to the banks and essentially killed off BAT so his browser is worthless now. If you want a nice Chrome alternative with plenty of features, go with Vivaldi. If you want actual real privacy at a cost of any fancy features, go with Librewolf.
I switched to Vivaldi a few years ago when a shitty Firefox version kept crashing and drove me nuts.

I only switched to it because it had a boxy minimalist aesthetic to it.
 
I switched to Vivaldi a few years ago when a shitty Firefox version kept crashing and drove me nuts.

I only switched to it because it had a boxy minimalist aesthetic to it.
I've been using it even before the official 1.0 release because before that I was an avid Opera Presto user. Then they've turned it into a shitty Chrome clone, so I tried Chrome, then Firefox, trying to find an alternative, and then I've heard about Vivaldi and have been happily using it ever since.

To give a bit more context, Opera used to run on it's own engine called Presto, and back in the day it was kinda like the modern day console market. Chrome and Firefox were the two different flavors of the same basic thing, and Opera was the Blue Ocean Strategy option. It had a whole bunch of unique features that no other browser on the market offered and that's what drove users to that.

You prefer your tab bar to be at the bottom? You got it. You want your bookmarks as speed dial cards instead of having a basic bitch five most visited websites links? Sure thing. Or maybe you want to navigate web with mouse gestures? Well you can't get that at Chrome or Firefox. Or maybe you just want to select a text of a hyperlink rather than move it? Guess what, only on Opera.

It was the browser for power users, where you could adjust everything to your liking and where you could do things that no other browser could offer. However in 2011, the co-founder of Opera, Jon von Tetzchner left the company, after which the project began spiraling down, with the move to Chromium being the biggest blow to it. All of the features that people used Opera for were now gone, because they didn't reimplement shit in the switch. Opera became a barebones Chrome clone. Then in 2016 they got bought out by the Chinese and that was about it.

As for Jon, in 2013 he founded a company called Vivaldi Technologies, and he really wanted to make a browser that would be like his old project, and about two years later work on it have began. And that's how Vivaldi came to be, and if you were an avid user of Opera Presto you'd feel right at home with Vivaldi, even if it didn't bring back absolutely everything. But it was sure as hell better than Chrome or Firefox.

A little anecdote about how much Vivaldi's userbase is tied to the one of old Opera.

I believe my usage of Opera Presto began when I used my uncle's PC. He used Opera Presto with the tab bar at the bottom, and I really liked that format, so I was using that for many years until that two year gap between Opera Presto and Vivaldi.

And when I told him about Vivaldi many years later, he also switched to Vivaldi, with the tab bar set at the bottom. So it went full circle, he introduced me to Opera Presto, and then I introduced him to Vivaldi, and we both use it because of those unique features.

Though my current instance of Vivaldi is extremely riced with CSS mods. The tab bar is on the left so it's a tab list, and when maximized, I'm basically looking at a fullscreen webpage, with all the UI elements hidden away when not needed. And when they are, I just hover over a hotspot and they show up when I need them to. No other browser could offer me that besides Vivaldi and that's why I constantly use it.
 
Brendan Eich is a grifter that had nothing to do with Mozilla for years. Brave grifts as much as Gab, and if you truly care about privacy then you should stick to Firefox and forks deriving from it like Librewolf.
My post is about Eich resigning from Mozilla, way before the Brave days, after people found out he was supporting groups against gay-marriage
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I remember being content with Firefox until with each update, it kept removing all my extensions just because. I assume cause I don't have a mozilla account to preserve them.

That is, in essence, the only reason to make use of a Mozilla account. These days, extension minimalism is the new trend because of how many extensions ended up becoming vectors for malware (i.e. Nano Defender). On a new installation of Firefox, uBlock Origin plus a couple of extra filters are all you need these days. That still won't stop me from installing stuff like Bypass Paywalls Clean directly, however.

I switched between multiple browsers (brave, chromium, etc.) and only settled with Librewolf. Not as much as a /g/ meme as I had feared. I referred to this website to settle on which program. I would have stayed with chromium if it weren't for its obnoxiously demanding ram usage, but I won't lie and say I don't have a soft spot for firefox-like interfaces.

LibreWolf is pointless to me, but I must emphasise that I'm the type of autist who was directly toying with about:config flags and custom prefs.js stuff long before LibreWolf ever became a thing. These days, I elect to use an Arkenfox user.js on the latest Firefox ESR version.

That being said, I look forward to reading this thread.

Thank you kindly. I have my RSS feed set to track the Mozilla blog directly and the Thunderbird/K-9 blog as well. I have enough stories to work with, but fleshing out the OP is my priority at the moment. Please contribute if you feel you have anything to add!

I don't know whether Google infiltrated them to woke it up or not but they are 100% kept around as an antitrust shield. Token competition at it's finest.

Or... and let us apply a healthy dose of Occam's Razor here, a decade plus of fucking awful administrative decisions on Mozilla's part have left them hopelessly dependent on Google's search deal. They tried pivoting away from Google to Yahoo back in 2016 with a 5 year contract, but that deal got axed in 2019 because the revenue shortfall was just too much to deal with (that and also Yahoo got acquired by Verizon and Oath). Services like Relay, Pocket, and VPN are basically their way of trying to branch away from the Google deal for alternate revenue streams. Unfortunately, it's too little too late from where I'm standing.


I'm not going to sperg at length about the Mozilla Foundation's fucking baffling and detestable decisions with Firefox, but I would like to point one basic fact out that almost none of the anti-Mozilla faggots ever have a valid retort to: if Firefox was so irredeemably awful, why the fuck is the Tor Project still using Firefox as a base, when they could just as easily pivot over to a custom Chromium fork? Like it or not, Firefox (the browser) is still a good piece of software that's still freely modifiable and customisable to the user's desires. Why else would we have not just LibreWolf anymore, but also Mullvad Browser? The day that the Tor Project completely abandons ship from Firefox and moves over to Chromium will be the day I'll eat my words and sincerely contemplate permanently switching away.

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Brendan Eich is a colossal faggot himself for creating a damn good Chromium fork, and then ruining it by shoving unnecessary cryptocurrency integration that no one ever fucking asked for. BAT is one thing, but I ain't asking for FTX, Gemini, Binance, and Uphold integration in the same goddamn browser when I don't fucking use crypto exchanges like a normie in the first place. My most sincere apologies to Dear Leader when I say this, but Brave (the company) is even more toxic to their software than Mozillla is to Firefox and Thunderbird. That being said, Brave Search is a genuinely good search engine and I love using it.

I don't know the exact details of how it went down so maybe someone else can add more context to that, but personally I've switched to Betterbird because it has extra features and tweaks that make it a nicer experience than just pure Thunderbird. And since it's a soft fork you can basically switch back and forth between the two and it'll work just fine.

Thunderbird 115 ("Supernova") is the first release that in a planned series to completely rebuild Thunderbird from the ground-up. I can't be fucked to find all the blog posts, but the rationale for this redesign and the way they're implementing it is for the below reasons (maybe more)

1. Thunderbird is, without exaggeration, a heavily modified version of Firefox. The problem is that Thunderbird, for years, could not keep pace with Firefox development so many things wound up breaking and got fixed far too late only to get broken again by the next update.

2. A lot of the "features" that Thunderbird accumulated over the years were hastily slapped together by volunteers and buried in layers and layers of obtuse menuing. The new head of the Thunderbird project spent a decent amount of time doing enterprise UX shit, and he was like "nah son, we need to standardise this shit and have better quality control because this is fucking unacceptable."

3. They wanted to do a more substantial redesign, but budget/team constraints combined with the scope of the project means that they have to slowly but surely implement the changes they want to with time.
 
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i switched to firefox for adblocking.
i will probably switch to thunderbird when i swap to linux (or sooner if my mail client gets killed off)


my future's lookin quite orange.
 
I just want to say that Firefox has been a fantastic browser for the over a decade I've been using it, and I almost never run into issues with it. Adblocking with ABP and then ublock has been keeping my shit safe with no effort (haven't even been encountering the recent Youtube issues).

I'm glad I still have an alternative to Microsoft and Google, both of which are evil companies that I hate.
 
I would like to point one basic fact out that almost none of the anti-Mozilla faggots ever have a valid retort to: if Firefox was so irredeemably awful, why the fuck is the Tor Project still using Firefox as a base, when they could just as easily pivot over to a custom Chromium fork?
I believe there are two types of anti-Mozilla people.

  1. Those who are against the Foundation itself because it dumps loads of money on retarded divershitty and puts various utterly useless People of Modernity into vanity positions, which shouldn't exist anywhere without a bottomless supply of money. Ex.: most of opinions on Mozilla here, Lunduke.
  2. The Anti-Mozilla Reddit and HackerNoose brigade. They don't care about anything I've mentioned above because that's a good thing actually, chud. What they dislike is Firefox choosing not to, or partially, implement all the flavor of the month web "standards" that Google keeps pumping out.
I don't have any information on why exactly the Tor Project is using FF as a base, but this would be my guess. Less privacy breaching features to cut out, plus a relatively smaller and slower moving codebase.
 
I have used Gesturefy to get this sort of functionality for years now. I don't do anything crazy with it but I prefer it to using the right click menu or keyboard shortcuts for a lot of stuff.
Yeah well Gesturefy is from 2017 while I was talking about the times back when Opera Presto was a thing, so 2013 and earlier. Back then Firefox and Chrome were even more barebones than they are today and Opera was the only browser that stood out with the amount of unique features and customization possibilities. And then as I said, barebones Chrome clone, two year gap, first test versions of Vivaldi.
 
Less privacy breaching features to cut out, plus a relatively smaller and slower moving codebase.

Fair enough. Occam's razor helps explain yet another non-mystery.

My post is about Eich resigning from Mozilla, way before the Brave days, after people found out he was supporting groups against gay-marriage
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I don't give a fuck if Brendan Eich is the most based man on the planet by your standards: he's a fucking crypto-nigger for allowing FTX, Binance, Gemini, and Uphold integration on a browser that explicitly claims to respect your privacy. The browser itself is more than adequate, it's genuinely among the best experiences I ever had with Chromium once the crypto noise is turned off, but I damn sure ain't forgetting 2020-2022 when the crypto shit was at its worst. His only saving grace is the fact that Brave Search is a genuienly good search engine... for stuff in English., anyway.

I just want to say that Firefox has been a fantastic browser for the over a decade I've been using it, and I almost never run into issues with it. Adblocking with ABP and then ublock has been keeping my shit safe with no effort (haven't even been encountering the recent Youtube issues).

I'm glad I still have an alternative to Microsoft and Google, both of which are evil companies that I hate.

Same boat: decade plus of using Firefox for my internet shit. Flash games, RuneScape back when it was a browser game, YouTube, and all the fucking flame wars on various forums would've been fucking boring if I just did all that shit on Chrome. I just wish that Mozilla, the company, wasn't fucking terminally exceptional.

i switched to firefox for adblocking.
i will probably switch to thunderbird when i swap to linux

Vanilla Firefox is a suboptimal experience due to all the Mozilla noise. If you want my honest recommendations for settings, please see the below.

New tab page:
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Your home page
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Disable unsolicited recommendations for extensions or features
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Change the default search engine to something better. You can also use alternative search engines like Brave Search, Mojeek, MetaGer, or even Yandex. Also make sure to disable all search suggestions. Mozilla needs to ping your keystrokes to the search engine to generate those suggestions in the first place. Not a good look.
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Get rid of the Amazon, Ebay, and Wikipedia shit so that your search bar actually looks clean.
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Set your ETP settings to "Strict." This turns on a highly important feature: state partitioning. At a TLDR level, your browser will isolate cookies, fonts, IndexDB, caches, among other such things on a per site basis. Exceptions are made for stuff like logins, however. State partitioning is a more elegant solution to the 1-2 combo of blocking third-party cookies and isolating first-party cookies. Breakage can still happen, but the Mozilla developers are active with answering reports of broken websites. Back when this was in Nightly a couple of years back, Strict ETP broke way too many things. Now, Strict ETP is 100% usable for basically everything. The odd breakage can still happen with poorly designed websites, like the kind you're forced to deal with at work for job functions.
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IMPORTANT: Set your browser to clear all cookies and site data upon exit. If you need persistent logins of any type, you can always make exceptions. Side note: bear in mind that the exceptions you do make for cookies mean that state partitioning will be disabled for those sites. Be judicious with the websites you elect to make exceptions for.
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Disable all suggestions when using the address bar (optional, though I'm a man who prefers a silent browser).
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Disable the Mozilla telemetry (optional, but I elect to do it). To be clear: I object to telemetry on principle. Mozilla (and Brave) claim the data they collect on their users is anonymised, the data serves primarily for actual purposes like bug reports, and you stay out once you opt out. My grievance lies with the fact that Mozilla is also offering personalised extension recommendations in Firefox by default because that's not a functional use of my fucking browsing data. I am ambivalent to Firefox studies; I don't immediately detest it, but I do not trust Mozilla to use my data for any type of study considering the diarrhoea of the mouth they recommend on Pocket.
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Enable HTTPS-only mode in all windows. All browsers now make HTTPS connections by default, and the HTTPS Everywhere extension has since been decomissioned. by the EFF
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These settings, and no other modifications to the browser, put you ahead of like 90% of people on the web who use stock settings on basically every web browser in their life. uBlock Origin + a few extra filters and that's all you really need. Anything else is entirely contingent upon the level of autistic paranoia you actually suffer from.

What I want to know is, why did they go from having the cool dinosaur head logo to whatever this gay shit is?

2017 was a fucking dark year to be a Firefox user. I'm glad that Firefox Quantum got rid of that awful fucking Australis UI that was forced upon all of us in 2013-2014, but man, the loss of the dinosaur compounded by the loss of XUL/XPCOM was such a buzzkill. So many extensions that I just can't use anymore, nor can I find working versions of that are compatible with SeaMonkey... F.

I was an avid Opera Presto user

YOU ARE A FUCKING MAN OF CULTURE. I loved Opera as a secondary browser in high school. That was the browser I had my RSS feeds set up in because the old Opera RSS reader was so fucking amazing. It was a dark day when Opera Presto went dark and the company never fucking released the source code under an open license since. Browser engines are an autistic passion project that not even the world's biggest enterprises can manage efficiently, but man I would kill to have an open source browser based on Presto, if only for the RSS reader. FYI - Feedbro is the closest you can get to the old Opera RSS reader nowadays. It ain't perfect, but it almost does the job. I use it on Firefox for obvious reasons.
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YOU ARE A FUCKING MAN OF CULTURE. I loved Opera as a secondary browser in high school. That was the browser I had my RSS feeds set up in because the old Opera RSS reader was so fucking amazing. It was a dark day when Opera Presto went dark and the company never fucking released the source code under an open license since. Browser engines are an autistic passion project that not even the world's biggest enterprises can manage efficiently, but man I would kill to have an open source browser based on Presto, if only for the RSS reader. FYI - Feedbro is the closest you can get to the old Opera RSS reader nowadays. It ain't perfect, but it almost does the job. I use it on Firefox for obvious reasons.
FYI Vivaldi had an e-mail, calendar and RSS suite akin to Thunderbird integrated in the browser since June of last year. I still use Thunderbird, well, Betterbird for mail though. And recently also for RSS feeds since the way it's implemented in Vivaldi is a bit fucky where it doesn't have a clear distinction between mail and RSS feeds. But I might go back to the one in Vivaldi.
 
FYI Vivaldi had an e-mail, calendar and RSS suite akin to Thunderbird integrated in the browser since June of last year. I still use Thunderbird, well, Betterbird for mail though. And recently also for RSS feeds since the way it's implemented in Vivaldi is a bit fucky where it doesn't have a clear distinction between mail and RSS feeds. But I might go back to the one in Vivaldi.

Cheers for the info! My job's finally gotten me out of procrastinating with my personal email and I've wholeheartedly embraced Thunderbird. I'll withhold my judgement on Betterbird until I fiddle with it on my own time, but v115 is actually pretty fucking good! Thunderbird still feels old, but it's aged up to around 2012 instead of staying at 2003. I'm cautiously optimistic for Thunderbird Supernova's future developments, but great first impressions. Nothing monumental, but it feels cleaner. The hamburger menu is utilitarian and functional, you still have ALT to access the menu bar, settings are cleaner and (generally) easier to navigate, I could go on. I've imported my RSS feed from my browser into Thunderbird. It's great, but I marginally prefer Feedbro to Thunderbird if only because Feedbro allows me to fetch whole article text where available. If Thunderbird has that feature, please don't hold out on me like this man...
 
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