The Sacred Cow of Homosexuality - lmao i'm gonna get so much shit for this

[Ser Prize]

It's well documented that many a kiwi-nigger are aware of the pitfalls of tranny bullshit and the ever creeping progressive agenda. As they should be. But I've noticed that if you ever bring up how the push for gay acceptance was just like current day troon-pushing a lot of people start getting really anxious.

Why is that? Why is homoexuality being inherently good and normal where people draw the line?

 

[DumbDude42]

why do people simp for fags? the men who do it are probably fags themselves, the women who do it are feminists who see fags as allies in their war against men.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

But I've noticed that if you ever bring up how the push for gay acceptance was just like current day troon-pushing a lot of people start getting really anxious.

Initially, it wasn't. Gay pride parades were, initially, about showing that gays weren't flaming faggots salivating after male ass, but ordinary, everyday people. They wanted acceptance. Modern troon ideology demands that society capitulate to their every insane demand and, above all else, massage their delicate egos and never do anything to hurt their feelings.

Why is that? Why is homosexuality being inherently good and normal where people draw the line?

I've a couple schools of thought here.

My first thought is because troonism is where the freak flag can truly fly. As much as troonism has taken over popular culture, it is flamboyant, in-your-face, and cannot pass itself as "normal." Even if people are forced to comply with pronouns, everyone knows, deep down, that a tranny is a tranny.

Homosexuality is different. Not only is it a deviation from the cultural and demographic norm (homosexuals are a minority, after all), but you don't need to be a purple-haired freak to be gay. The old-school gay pride parades made this point quite well: anyone can be gay. It could be your neighbor, your priest, your teacher, coworker, boss, subordinate.

Because straight is the cultural and demographic norm, what deviates from it while maintaining at least the appearance of normalcy causes some anxiety. Sort of like how whites get a tad nervous around colored folk.

My second thought is because sexual deviants in general (and troons in particular) are the "face" of the LGBTWTFBBQ movement. When people think "gay" these days, they think men in leather BDSM gear wagging their dicks in front of children.

 

[DerKryptid]

I've seen kiwis trash niggos for the colour of their skin one second, only to give trannies and flamers asspats for being one of the "good ones" the next

 

[Erich Honecker]

Anyone can suck a dick, and it doesn't have to change your entire identity. But it takes a special kind of retard to want to cut off your dick. Same goes for vaginas.

The sexualities as we knew them up to about 10 years ago were pretty easily understandable. Heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual was inbetween. The dozens of other sexualities were mostly fringe Tumblr nonsense until later on, and they went hand-in-hand with the xe/xir/xim neopronoun freakishness that was previously unheard of in mainstream society.

Also, if you want to have any chance of actually convincing normal people below the age of 40 that unrestrained troonery should be critiqued, going balls-to-the-wall on attacking the whole LGB framework is just not gonna work. Trans activists have pretty successful employed this argument in reverse by saying "Trans rights is exactly the same as gay rights, so if you supported gay marriage etc, you MUST support every trans demand also or else you are a hypocrite". That is essentially the main thing I think that has won so many normal people over to the pro-trans side of the argument. Most were skeptical of this gender weirdness, until there was a massive co-ordinated push for a "trans rights" movement in the same vein as the gay rights one, and that similarity guilt-tripped a great number of casual liberal-minded people into just going with it. Come at them with the "ackchyually fags are bad too" assertions and you're just getting them to condemn you from the word go, and ensuring that troons will win 99% of future cultural battles.

 

[Chilson]

Most fags are usually tolerable human beings who keep their gay shit in the bedroom where it belongs. The REEE fagots on twitter are a distinct minority that the literal normal faggots shun as the pieces of garbage they are.

Most Tranny's force their mental illnesses and fetishes into every facet of the public world and demand you accept it or else. Only a minority are anywhere within the same time zone of normal and even fewer of this already small group call out and shun the degeneracy of the majority.

This the is the difference and I hate both faggots and Tranny's.

 

[Bongocat]

You're comparing stage 1 cancer to stage 3 cancer. Both lead to the same thing, but one is more obviously disruptive than the other

 

[eDove]

Molestations are prevalent in the homosexual community, men and children alike.

 

[Ser Prize]

Molestations are prevalent in the homosexual community, men and children alike.

As are rampant promiscuity, disease, drug use and mental illness. But even in this very thread you see the rhetoric of "anyone can be gay it doesn't mean anything".

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

It's retarded to accept one type of sexual mental illness but reject another. After all, trannies are just fags in dresses with axe wounds.

The gay acceptance movement was very successful, the gay agenda basically won. Even "bigots" are often accepting or tolerant of homosexuality.

 

[WULULULULU]

It gets pretty tiring. Almost most games, movies, anime, music video and whatever shit has been pushing for gayness and lesbian-ness into the world. Combined with the shitty state of all relationships, including heterosexual relationships, it is essentially one big domino after another.

Most fags are usually tolerable human beings who keep their gay shit in the bedroom where it belongs.

Better to kill a faggot than to die a faggot. They are equally dogshit to trannies and I've seen bisexual and actual gay fags in the farms to see how fucked we are, even on a website intended to shit on the concept. The bed should be replaced with a gas chamber.

You're comparing stage 1 cancer to stage 3 cancer. Both lead to the same thing, but one is more obviously disruptive than the other

But it would still be preferable to kill off the stages no?

I've yet to be redpilled about the benefits of being gay for cock (or pussy for lesbians) because it all leads to trannies one way or another. It is all retarded and most of the bi/fag-kiwi niggers that admit they are gay are potential lolcows themselves.

 

[Erich Honecker]

The thing is that homosexuality at its core is simply about your sexual tastes. Transgenderism is about completely changing who you are, your very identity, because you feel you were assigned the wrong one. The two ideas are associated with each other, because they were both repressed and existed in the same underground sexual counter-culture for many years. But there's no inherent reason why one should lead to the other.

If you look at all the trans related threads here on the Farms, you will see many regular posters who are themselves gay/bi/lesbian and are vehemently opposed to the troon trends of today. Several have made the argument that troons are pulling young gay men and lesbian women away from the LGB and towards the T by insisting that "your gender noncomformity means you MUST be trans". Elsewhere, in fundamentalist Islamic countries like Iran, transgenderism is seen as more tolerable because it can be used to force effeminate gay men into becoming just women. There's a credible argument to be made that transgenderism poses an existential threat to gays and lesbians.

Even if you come from the position of hating extremely camp make-up wearing dudes and butch lesbians, it's better they remain just that, rather than start irreversibly lopping their dicks/tits off just to suit a warped view of gender stereotypes.

 

[WULULULULU]

-snip-

I get that there are people so defending about their sexuality but couldn't there be a simpler solution to this? Like you know, going for the opposite sex like an actual normal human being? Dick in pussy?

Oh who am I kidding, its clown world after all, and the US is not exempt from this.

 

[Polystyrene Glioblastoma]

It used to be about equality for gays, now the vocal libtard faggots only care about being treated as a special caste. There are issues in the "gay community." Pedophila, mental illness, drug use, lesbian domestic violence, unsafe promiscuity, and aggressive flamboyant attitudes.

Gays are men and lesbians are women. Their sexual preferences and partners choices are not normal, but their place as an individuals in a community can remain intact. They mostly look like they're supposed to and act relatively like their gender. There are some loons, though. LBG may have children through previous relationships, support extended family, adopt, surrogate, or none of the above. They can be subject to the same lows and highs of straight people.

Transgender people want to alter their body and society's perceptions. You can prove homosexual behavior, but transgender ideology is often full of delusions. A gay man desires sex or a relationship with another man, while a tranny can cut their cock up and replace it with a stankditch. The gay men having relations is a fact, while the stankditch will never be a vagina.

If a tranny cannot pass, destroys their body, or does something horrible to other people, I am not afraid to ridicule them for playing pretend.

 

[IKOL]

Gay pride parades were, initially, about showing that gays weren't flaming faggots salivating after male ass, but ordinary, everyday people.

And it's quite an irony the parades have degraded into fetish faggotry fest. Well that's what you get by following the degrading requests of obviously schizophrenic individuals like 99% of trans freaks are.

When people think "gay" these days, they think men in leather BDSM gear wagging their dicks in front of children.

Being a kid I thought that exact thing but replace "children" With "other adult men". Back then, it was a somewhat relatable. Still is though, I keep seeing such individuals from time to time in the public transport.

you feel you were assigned the wrong one

I still blame that one asshole from whatever afterlife department decided to put Hitler in my " Drunk's driver buddy " Seat.

its clown world after all, and the US is not exempt from this.

It's the clown world's main contributor.

 

[Comfy Gondola]

Being against trannies but defending the "regular" gays is hilariously stupid. The LGB-minus-T is a bunch of degenerates who ultimately don't care about the crazy and unsavory parts of their "community" — as long as normies don't give them shit for it en masse. It's why pedophilia, especially among famous activists, was mostly brushed under the rug during the gay rights movements of old.

Trannies are just the latest degenracy that is being hand waved by the rest of the community. If you really want this shit to end, make sure to let the LGB know that they can go fuck themselves with a cactus as well if they don't get rid of the T, and the other genderspecial tumors it has spawned in its wake.

Edit: Spelling

 

[teriyakiburns]

The difference is that transgenderism is purely medicalised fetishism disguised as "acceptance" of the "true self", whereas homosexual behaviours are natural, inasmuch as they're behaviours that appear throughout the natural world in response to poorly understood environmental conditions. To pick an example at random: You get homosexual lions forming short-term all-male "prides", but you don't get transgender lions. The lone example of a supposedly transgender lion was in fact a lioness with a brain cancer that caused a hormonal imbalance (providing some evidence that transgenderism can only be the result of abnormalities).

What is poorly understood is why homosexuality occurs. In the lion example, the male "prides" aren't really prides; they are all-male bonding groups, who remain together for mutual protection and hunting assistance. Some of them also act out mating behaviours on one another. This only lasts until they can form a pride, so it's assumed to be some sort of "play" dominance behaviour, but it's not known to be such.

Any research into this would be indelibly tainted by contemporary political considerations. You cannot investigate the cause of homosexuality in mammals, for instance, because someone might use that to find a "cure". Same as you can't investigate IQ differences across races because of a nearly-irrational fear that someone might potentially use the research to justify extermination camps (which is silly, because people who are determined to exterminate the undesirables can just make up justifications whenever they want). Because of this irrational stance, we can't uncover the cause and understand, so we're left with appeals to emotion.

There's also the definitional problem. Much of what is now called "homosexual" used to be normal male bonding behaviour, while homosexuality was purely about sexual behaviour. Sucking dick and buggery. We've reached a point where our society calls normal male behaviour "homosexual", creating a constant, low-level neurosis in males who are conditioned to think that their normal behaviour is homosexual, even though they have no interest at all in sex with men.

In humans there are a lot of social signals wrapped around homosexuality, which aren't really homosexual behaviours as such, but which are parcelled up with homosexual identity. That there is the problem: identity. And that's the disconnect between the "just want to live life" argument and the "we're coming for your children" problem. Homos who just want to get on are the quiet ones because being quiet is what they want. They don't want to "identify" as homosexual, they just want to bugger one another in private and otherwise live a normal life. The loud, shrieking, flaming faggots who keep pushing homo identity and identitariansm are the issue, and also where transgenderism draws its legitimacy, because for them homosexuality isn't merely a sexual behaviour, it's everything they are.

The problem is people for whom self-identity relies entirely on identification with a homogenous group that has simplified itself down to a single, easily explained aspect. They express radical variation within the confines of that group, but the group identity takes primacy over everything else. They aren't people any more. They're queer and proud and they're going to steal your children and make them gay. Or they're true and honest women.

tl;dr a lot of what is called homosexual actually isn't; gays who just want to fuck aren't the problem; the people who make sucking dick their entire identity are the problem and also where tranny politics came from.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Initially, it wasn't. Gay pride parades were, initially, about showing that gays weren't flaming faggots salivating after male ass, but ordinary, everyday people. They wanted acceptance. Modern troon ideology demands that society capitulate to their every insane demand and, above all else, massage their delicate egos and n

This was just good branding. The gay pride events came from the stonewall riots and the stonewall riots were in defence of a placed that had among other things, prostitution including child prostitution which is one of the reasons police did their raid in the first place.

The male leadership of these stonewall riots were also involved with nambla.

It's the same line of thought like people that say feminism started for good reasons. That slow progression from reasonable to insane is not something that happened in the world. What they are actually describing is their own stages of grief in accepting that it's bad.
First their denial, then their anger.
Nothing wrong with homosexuality! Why the fuck does it always lead to more molested kids!

Then the bargaining and depression.
Okay but maybe that was just the bad gays and we should have had some restraints on homosexuality, oh god I would have been attacked like Orson Scott card and Bush who argued for a kind of don't ask don't tell?

And finally the acceptance. That being intolerant of homosexuality does help protect children and public health more than it harms those who have to sneak into their secret saunas.

 

[Coolio55]

It's important to remember that all the drop the T fags aren't upset that trannies are turning society into a cess pit.
No, they're upset because THEY used to be the ones that got to fuck with the dirty straights.
They've been stripped of their power and discarded and they've never been angrier.

Fuck gays. Fuck dykes. Fuck the traitors to everyone.

 

[DiggieSmalls]

It's important to remember that all the drop the T fags aren't upset that trannies are turning society into a cess pit.
No, they're upset because THEY used to be the ones that got to fuck with the dirty straights.
They've been stripped of their power and discarded and they've never been angrier.

Fuck gays. Fuck dykes. Fuck the traitors to everyone.

Dude, the fags still cruise in parks close to playgrounds. fags will suck cock and get buttfucked anywhere. They still fuck with str8 people.