The secret to diversity

[Sayon]

I found an interesting exchange:

https://twitter.com/ImperiumPress/status/1267425521329037314

Savages conquered China and Egypt. These societies did not perish, but were able to integrate, assimilate, and domesticate them, and then marginalize them in favour of the native stock. How? High culture.
America...

The idea is that America lacks something that past empires didn't, leading to the failure of multiculturalism.

What do you all make of this? Do any think there's something to this?

 

[Y2K Baby]

Have hot women.

 

[Crabbo]

Total genocide was harder to do back in the day.
It was easier to subjugate a people, and tell them to get back to work in the fields than kill entire groups of ethnicities.
Effectiveness in war has meant that diplomacy is less needed to control a populace.

 

[Recoil]

>America lacks something that past empires didn't, leading to the failure of multiculturalism.

Yeah, a swift and ruthless death penalty

 

[Watermelanin]

What we lack is an authoritarian structure that will chop your fucking head off if you try starting shit.
America was founded by people starting shit and isn't very fond of authoritarianism. Go figure.

 

[DumbDude42]

These societies did not perish, but were able to integrate, assimilate, and domesticate them

are you retarded? egyptian society got thoroughly brutalized and arabized by the islamic conquest. it doesn't resemble pre islamic egypt at all anymore.
as for china, they were simply big enough to be able to take the hit from mongol attacks and basically just sit it out.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

China and Egypt are also examples of countries that had past importance but became pointless and were subjugated by Europeans.

 

[Chilson]

are you retarded? egyptian society got thoroughly brutalized and arabized by the islamic conquest. it doesn't resemble pre islamic egypt at all anymore.
as for china, they were simply big enough to be able to take the hit from mongol attacks and basically just sit it out.

China was more or less completely conquered by the mongols for 100 years and the mongol dynasty just took the place of the prior rulers until they were overthrown like the prior rulers. Not to mention that China has a history of massive bloody civil wars that rival WW1 and WW2 in body count before the mongol conquests. Hardly a harmonious multicultural empire.

 

[Queen Elizabeth II]

Multiculturalism isnt failing because of America, it doesn't function by evolutionary design.

People fear that which is "the other". Multi racial societies like the Ottoman empire worked because there was a shared culture and/or one "culture" was firmly enslaved by the other (The Christian Greeks were the bitches of the Turks).

Different cultures side by side "other" each other simply by existing. It just builds up and gets worse and worse.

One has to assimilate into the other,or one has to destroy the other. It doesn't work any other way.

I'm speaking more on a cultural sphere level than a national level. Western Europe has a level of sameness to not overtly other each other as much as say The Middle East vs the US does.

 

[Shield Breaker]

Multiculturalism isnt failing because of America, it doesn't function by evolutionary design.

People fear that which is "the other". Multi racial societies like the Ottoman empire worked because there was a shared culture and/or one "culture" was firmly enslaved by the other (The Christian Greeks were the bitches of the Turks).

Different cultures side by side "other" each other simply by existing. It just builds up and gets worse and worse.

One has to assimilate into the other,or one has to destroy the other. It doesn't work any other way.

I'm speaking more on a cultural sphere level than a national level. Western Europe has a level of sameness to not overtly other each other as much as say The Middle East vs the US does.

We used to have a general culture. Black, white, red, it didn't matter so long as you were American. I know it wasn't completely true, but it was the driving mythos for us, and it generally worked.

 

[Sayon]

are you retarded? egyptian society got thoroughly brutalized and arabized by the islamic conquest. it doesn't resemble pre islamic egypt at all anymore.

They were around for milleniums while Murica hasn't even lasted for one millenium.

as for china, they were simply big enough to be able to take the hit from mongol attacks and basically just sit it out.

Lay off the /pol/ history. The point is that the Mongolians were assimilated, the reverse did not happen.