The Space Thread - Launches, Events, Live Streams, Governments, Corporations, drama in Spaaaaaaaaaaaace

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Toolbox said:
Not even sure if those have enough space for a Starship. Any specs on what a Gerald R. Ford can support?
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Just checked, the well deck of a wasp class is about 0.5 meters too small [for a perfect fit] with it being 8.5 not tall enough. Every other category, it could fit one. I confused the Americas with having a well dock. Neither Nimitz or Gerald R. Ford are designed for

And a Canberra could maybe fit one in its well deck? The flight deck is at 27.5m, and a Starship is 9m in diameter. It looks like it can in the lower deck, but I may be wrong. This is all just going off of eye guessing.

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Edit, another image of a Canberra to try and guess if the well deck is big enough. It looks like as the internals are 69.3 meters by 16.8 meters so it should fit Starship. It's just one of those problems with Australia only having two of these ships which means one could maybe be brought into service. But it is unknown. And I doubt Australia would want to do such a thing, but hey ho.

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Freedom Fighter said:
Makes me wonder what happens if it does that on a tower return. Can it boost out of the way in time?
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They aim it at the dunes a few hundred meters away from the tower, so if it fails to relight it will slam into sand and cause no damage. The EPA will probably come sniffing around for a fine and that's about it. If you watch the previous catches you can see the 13 engine burn just slows it down, then the vehicle makes a last second maneuver to swing it in the catch arms with the 3 engine burn.
 
Purely Resonant said:
Elon's idea of putting AI datacenters into space sounds so insanely retarded, but since he's serious about it now I'm wondering if he's onto something.
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For whatever reason, the powers that be and society have decided data centers = the devil regardless of logic. Even if it were less efficient or more expensive or whatever else, your cost of maintenance is going to be minimal, your insurance $0 and the risk of some obese blue hair firebombing your AI computer becomes nil, and a government can't block your development proposal or hold your mid-construction site hostage through veiled blackmail to shut it down.

The value proposition is essentially risk management, hedging against legal risk and societal pressure. If it works, you can lay off everyone in favour of the AI factory without risk one of the workers torches it. They can't get to space.
 
Elon Musk has done more for space then any man since werner von Braum.

But its really more then that. Hes created an entirely new private industry, in America, that is involving numerous corporations now. And what we just witnessed today is history. Starship surviving that test flight is huge.

America is heading for the stars. The next great frontier is opening up. As the cost of entry narrows and more platforms for launch are created, space will become more accessible.

What an exciting time to be alive.
 
Purely Resonant said:
Elon's idea of putting AI datacenters into space sounds so insanely retarded, but since he's serious about it now I'm wondering if he's onto something.
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Every idea Elon seems to have is the exact same idea I had when I was 8 except you know, he did it. "Why don't they keep the rocket", "Why don't we have internet everywhere", "Why do we need women to make babies", yadda yadda

At this point fuck it, he probably knows something we don't.
 
mindlessobserver said:
Elon Musk has done more for space then any man since werner von Braum.

But its really more then that. Hes created an entirely new private industry, in America, that is involving numerous corporations now. And what we just witnessed today is history. Starship surviving that test flight is huge.

America is heading for the stars. The next great frontier is opening up. As the cost of entry narrows and more platforms for launch are created, space will become more accessible.

What an exciting time to be alive.
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I'm excited too, but until I see both a reused booster and reused starship launching together, I'll not be praising him so highly. If the Starship concept is to work, that capability is absolutely necessary, especially for all those refueling flights we're gonna need for Artemis IV.
Also Musk has created not only the American private industry, but the world private industry. Those Chinese companies are catching up a lot faster than I expected, and it was cool seeing that Indian one last week, it's a long way off anything modern but still cool. Some of the footage of development and testing that they released was pretty cool too, nice not having ITAR ruining videos.
 
thefreshmaker said:
For whatever reason, the powers that be and society have decided data centers = the devil regardless of logic.
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There are multiple reasons to oppose this mass roll-out of data centres that have nothing to do with the usual lefty bugbears. The fact this has been made into a partisan issue is itself part of the problem. I'm not sure about the viability of space data centres, but at least it's an effort to address the problem, rather than just denying it exists or banning everything.
 
Hatewerfer said:
Also Musk has created not only the American private industry, but the world private industry. Those Chinese companies are catching up a lot faster than I expected, and it was cool seeing that Indian one last week, it's a long way off anything modern but still cool. Some of the footage of development and testing that they released was pretty cool too, nice not having ITAR ruining videos.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=xXckAMbi-Ew
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Propulsive Landing essentially originated in the 60s with the LEM, and has been used in jets with the VTOL format. Propulsive rockets as we know them basically originate din the 60s but weren't pioneered until SpaceX/Blue in the noughts and tens because of the dominance of the Space Shuttle and the apprehension towards reusability institutionally, essentially internationally. It was all essentially the damage of the shuttle program and how it was perceived.

Oh, and the India stunt isn't actually that impressive because the rocket was basically a series of SRBs which are extremely simple to make compared to liquid boosters.
 
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