The state of kiwifarms, the liberated internet and how things could have been way worse.

[SwanSwanson]

In April 2022 Elon Musk purchased twitter, and about a year and a half after that was when the dropkiwifarms movement fell off. Imagine if these two things hadn't have happened? Null basically got unlucky and Elon Musk decided buying twitter wouldn't be worth the hassle.

Basically the entire internet would be under the control of progressives and the only places we would have are basically 4chan(a shithole) and some other obscure scattered forums.

 

[Schwarzwald]

I don't necessarily think you can prognosticate an unknown like that with any certainty.

Do not underestimate Null's stubbornness and autism, and also do not underestimate the will of God to keep this site up in some fashion to expose some very dangerous and depraved people for who they are. Things always seem to eventually work out somehow.

Where there's a stubborn bastard, there's a way.

 

[AFAB]

Null seems very resilient and stubborn to boot. Even without Elon Musk buying Twitter I'd still say the farms would still be up (maybe with or without the slowdowns and downtime).

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

about a year and a half after that was when the dropkiwifarms movement fell off

#DropKiwiFarms started in 2022, after Musk purchased Xitter, and died the same year. The reason we were down in 2023 was because of the sole efforts of Liz Fong-Jones, Field CTO of honeycomb.io and consent accident enjoyer.

Even if Xitter wasn't bought by Musk, the movement would've fallen apart anyway. Trannies are narcissistic to an insane degree; rather than share victory or accept a humble, behind-the-scenes role, they fought each other to take credit for bringing down the Farms, and so the movement splintered. We stand united behind our fearless slobbermutt, while they backstab each other for internet clout.

the only places we would have are basically 4chan(a shithole) and some other obscure scattered forums.

4Chan is a government honeypot, and has been since at least 2016, so it wouldn't go down. Alt forums wouldn't survive long; Kiwi Farms, thanks to Josh's stubbornness, is the test case for removing wrongthink from the internet. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say the day Kiwi Farms is brought down for good is the day free speech dies on the internet.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

If there was ever an opinion that made me alienated it is this: Musk is the far better choice for ownership of the largest social media platform.

 

[Angry Alt Right Nerd]

I think it was always doomed to fail due to game theory, even before the government steps in. The wild west era was never sustainable and would have eventually turned to shit anyways as bad actors became more sophisticated. Scalpers ruin every hobby, CP spammers and DDOS will fuck up small unprotected forums, internet groups manipulate and brigade any community, and there is probably an alternate universe where piracy has a much greater impact than it currently does.

 

[SwanSwanson]

I think it was always doomed to fail due to game theory, even before the government steps in. The wild west era was never sustainable and would have eventually turned to shit anyways as bad actors became more sophisticated. Scalpers ruin every hobby, CP spammers and DDOS will fuck up small unprotected forums, internet groups manipulate and brigade any community, and there is probably an alternate universe where piracy has a much greater impact than it currently does.

I'm not trying to say kiwifarms is invincible, or that it can't be taken down, but Null has been pretty good dealing with Ddossers. The only way I could see this place going down is if Josh is arrested.

I know everyone loves to be an optimist, but the odds of that happening aren't zero. The british government literally arrested someone for teaching their dog to do the nazi salute.