The Surprising Benefits of Spanking: New Studies Challenge Old Assumptions - Who would have thoughts there are benefits to actual discipline?

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Spanking is a controversial topic in parenting, with many claiming that it is an outdated or even harmful form of discipline. However, some recent research suggests that this may not be the case.

Research on the effects of spanking has typically found small adverse effects on child outcomes. However, media reports have often exaggerated the magnitude of these effects, leading to the belief that spanking is universally harmful. Further, such reports have conflated research on spanking with research on abuse, reporting the results of studies on harsher forms of physical punishment as if they were focused on ordinary spanking.

One particular issue that has lead to this misleading portrayal of spanking is that previous studies used incorrect statistical methods. The typically used methods assumed that all children share the same baseline level of the outcome variable of focus, but this is clearly not the case. Children may have different temperaments, abilities, and experiences, all of which may impact their outcomes.

Recent research that has addressed this issue by accounting for these differences has found that, when done correctly, spanking does not appear to have adverse effects on child outcomes. In fact, some research has even suggested that spanking may have beneficial effects, particularly when used moderately as part of an authoritative parenting style.

Authoritative parenting, characterized by high levels of warmth and high levels of control, has consistently been found by research to be the optimal parenting style. Interestingly, research on authoritative parenting has found that spanking is often used by authoritative parents, which suggests that spanking can be an important part of effective parenting. In fact, there is actually no evidence that authoritative parenting can be achieved at all without spanking, as research on authoritative parenting has found that all authoritative parents spank their children when needed.

It’s important to note that spanking should not be used as a first resort, and should only be used occasionally, as part of a larger disciplinary plan. It should also never be used to discipline children under the age of two, or used to the point of injury.

In conclusion, the effects of spanking on child outcomes have been largely misunderstood and misrepresented. Recent research suggests that, when used correctly as part of an authoritative parenting style, spanking does not have adverse effects and may even be beneficial for children. It is important for parents to understand the complexities of spanking in order to use it responsibly as part of their disciplinary plan. When used as a backup tool for other methods such as time-outs, the latest research has shown that spanking can be an effective disciplinary tactic that does not lead to adverse side effects. However, the risks of adverse effects grow when used excessively, so it should not be used as a first resort.
 
It all comes down to operant conditioning.

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PositiveSomething is added to increase the likelihood of a behavior.Something is added to decrease the likelihood of a behavior.
NegativeSomething is removed to increase the likelihood of a behavior.Something is removed to decrease the likelihood of a behavior.

Punishment will bring about change quicker, but reinforcement will last longer.
 
This article is clearly aimed at white people, considering white parents have gotten softer with their kids over the decades to where kids now-a-days get away with so much shit.

Last I checked, black parents still beat the shit out of their kids, even in public, and everyone just looks the other way and pretend it doesn't exist.
 
It all comes down to operant conditioning.

ReinforcementPunishment
PositiveSomething is added to increase the likelihood of a behavior.Something is added to decrease the likelihood of a behavior.
NegativeSomething is removed to increase the likelihood of a behavior.Something is removed to decrease the likelihood of a behavior.

Punishment will bring about change quicker, but reinforcement will last longer.
Thus it is a useful tool for when behavior needs to be adjusted very quickly. e.g., Don't fuck with the gasoline after I already told you not to Timmy. It is to stop them from doing something so stupid that suffering the spanking is better than the alternative. Kids, especially on the younger end sometimes just won't take no, and an explanation for an answer.
 
Thus it is a useful tool for when behavior needs to be adjusted very quickly. e.g., Don't fuck with the gasoline after I already told you not to Timmy. It is to stop them from doing something so stupid that suffering the spanking is better than the alternative. Kids, especially on the younger end sometimes just won't take no, and an explanation for an answer.
Yes. Positive punishment is a last resort though since its the least likely to bring about lasting change. Sometimes its required though some of the adults I work with will chew their fingers to deformity so we will use aversive tasting (bitter) on their hands. It adds a punishment of an unpleasant taste and stops the behavior, but it has to be there constantly to stop it.
 
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Reasonable spanking works well, in fact when done correctly and children know you will follow through, the real threat promotes good behavior then you dont have to spank at all anymore. This worked on me by my parents and worked on my children with me.

Disciplin and well behaved respectful children is the foundation of western decency. I just had to remind myself we want to do the opposite now adays and embrace other cultures.
 
Thus it is a useful tool for when behavior needs to be adjusted very quickly. e.g., Don't fuck with the gasoline after I already told you not to Timmy. It is to stop them from doing something so stupid that suffering the spanking is better than the alternative. Kids, especially on the younger end sometimes just won't take no, and an explanation for an answer.
Oh s*** what you telling me how people raise children for the majority of human history works next you going to tell me that the optimal relationship it's a mother and a father
 
A little advice for future parents from a dad who has had random strangers come up and compliment my children’s behavior for their entire lives. It happens so often that it’s hard for me to not say “yeah thanks we get that a lot.”

1. Spank early and spank often. My son got his first spanking when he was 9 months old for biting his mom’s face. It was in public and two women saw it. It looked like they were about to call the police, and we were in a foreign country, so I got the fuck out of there pretty fast. But yeah I slapped the shit out of his cheek when I saw him do it so you better believe he never did that again.

2. “Spanking” doesn’t mean you have to beat the shit out of them and it doesn’t mean you have to be an authoritarian. I have always allowed my children to push their boundaries, but when they are little and I tell them to do something and they don’t listen, boom, spanking. My reasoning is that if I tell my kid something I need them to listen to me because I could be giving them emergency info that could save their life. (I.e. “don’t run out into the parking lot”. “Don’t go over and pet that pit bull.”). If they get in the habit of not listening to me then I won’t be able to prevent them from encountering a possible life-threatening situation. And if there are no repercussions for ignoring me they have no incentive to do what I tell them to do.

3. Do it all with love. Spanking your child when you are angry only teaches them to avoid you. I can only think of one time I spanked one of my kids out of anger and it was definitely warranted at the time. He still remembers it over a decade later because it was out of character for me.

4. If you spank early and often, then you will find that at about 5 years old you will never have to spank them again. They have already learned to listen to you so there is no reason to spank them. Plus you get to spend the next 5-10 years just enjoying them and vice versa. It makes for a great relationship. This doesn’t mean you won’t have to correct them, but they won’t do things that warrant corporal punishment. I have had other men express jealousy to me about my relationship with my kids. And guess what? They were “no spank” dads.

5. Be a “no” dad. If my kids want something out of the ordinary my knee jerk answer is no. If they really didn’t want it or it wasn’t that important then the issue is dropped. If they do really want it then you force them to learn to negotiate with you, or at least be persuasive in their argument for it. You can teach them a life skill just by always saying no, but by also being flexible if they present a good argument for it.

Last thing: the responsibility of discipline and punishment is on the father. Accept this role and do what needs to be done to raise functioning, productive members of society. Do not expect your wife to assume this role because women are naturally inclined to baby and spoil their children. Remember as a child how you wanted your mom when things went wrong? Their role is nurturer. Let them have that role, but be man enough to assume your role as well.

Side note: some of the most amazing women I have dated were women who had strict dads. So if you’re raising girls, be strict. More strict than if they were a boy. And if you’re lookin for a partner, find someone who had a strict (but loving) father.

I can’t stress enough that all of this must be done with love. If you’re a shitty parent then all of this will just make you a tyrant.

Edit: addendum to number 2: I have always been forthright with my children about how they can prevent spankings. I let them know as soon as they were old enough to understand that if they don’t want a spanking then all they have to do is listen to me and do what I say. Simple as. And if they are aware of their boundaries then they are also aware that they deserve punishment when they cross them.
 
I'm not saying beat your children senseless, but physical punishment does send a message that you only need 2 brain cells to run together to understand. I personally feel most "adults" today are as shitty as they are because they didn't get their ass beat enough as kids or have a parent that reinforced positive behavior while stifling the negative. We're now dealing with a bunch of entitled, lazy, and stupid adults with no self-discipline, no respect, very little understanding of boundaries, ect because nowadays parents are too soft, and too many busybody faggots refuse to let parents be parents and properly discipline their kid... Unless you're black, then by all means, beat your kid to death in public, it would be racist for CPS to stop you.
 
Cue the faggots, "I got raped as a kid and I turned out ok".

Don't fucking spank children. If you need to keep a child's hand from something dangerous, hit the hand. If the child has committed a crime for which he/she will see no legal punishment due to age or the corrupt legal system (not just muh misbehavior, but an actual crime or something you think should be one), feel free to beat him (or her, no discrimination). No """spanking""". Generally, public shaming for public misdeeds used to be appropriate, now it's disproportionate. But if you're a sick fuck who creates and collects private blackmail material on your own retarded kid, using your shitty parenting as a pretext, do the world a favor and neck yourself.
 
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