The United States hasn't functioned properly since the Clinton era

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There is something to those facts. If you listen or talk to those who lived through that era they will tell you about a time of economic and political stability. The problems going onto day were literally unheard of back then. College grads got good jobs out of school in the 1990's because the economy was great, there was no tent cities up and down the side walks of California cities and people were not intensely politically polarized. If Covid would have hit back then I have the feeling it would have been managed much better.
 
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It is almost like 8 years of Bush Jr. and 8 years Obama were cyanide or something.

Also it is fun to pretend Clinton did not have his own shit but he did. One could argue the mortgage bubble was a result of him. He also did some wag the dog shit by bombing things to distract from his being a sex pest(sorry Lewinsky was manipulated into being abused by Clinton. She was young and impressionable and he jammed a cigar up her twat).

The MSM was not quite as much of a power. The Internet was not a conduit to control as it is now.

As far as TFV...Fauci would still have been heading up the effort and he fucked up GRIDS...Sorry HIV/AIDS by that point so I figure he would have still fumbled it given that he has fucked up everything he has ever faced.

I am not saying you are wrong but for different reasons. When Gore lost, and he did fucking lose, the DNC started down the path of totalitarianism by trying to subvert state control over elections which they never abandoned.

Bush Jr's second win was pretty clear as was Obama's.

The problem is if you look into Obama and the force around him you see that he was the foot in the door to get a radical into office. After that things fell apart.

Again not to say you are wrong but it is important to look at the reasons the wheels came off.

The dotcom bubble added a lot of jobs that never existed and we have had no such new bubble but he inherited a lot that is completely ignored. Clinton was a bad President. He did a bad job. He was and is a bad person. His wife is a sociopath who we just cannot seem to purge from society.

Anyway yeah there may have been a semblance of "proper function" but the fan was already hit by shit and this slide was put in motion in the 30's.

#ArrestBushJr #ArrestObama #ArrestHillary #ArrestBiden
 
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Sweetpeaa said:
I thought the Iraq war contributed to the economic issues. Not just the dot.com boom.
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What I was talking about specifically was Clinton leaning on the housing and banking markets to give deals to bad debtors who they wouldn't have chose to deal with on their own. This is part of what lead to the housing goatfuck of the late 2000's.
 
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Jesus H Christ said:
The 90's, when America was the world's only superpower, something even the British never experienced, will likely be seen as the last great American decade, unless some really amazing shit is coming that we don't know about yet.
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Who needs another good decade when you can troon out children and let freaks jerk eachother off with pride at parades
 
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Also it is fun to pretend Clinton did not have his own shit but he did. One could argue the mortgage bubble was a result of him. He also did some wag the dog shit by bombing things to distract from his being a sex pest(sorry Lewinsky was manipulated into being abused by Clinton. She was young and impressionable and he jammed a cigar up her twat).
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I don't think there's any doubt that he caused the mortgage bubble, even Time magazine put the blame squarely on Bill Clinton before they went bat shit crazy.

Democrats thought it was social justice to give deadbeats with bad credit mortgages and complete shocker they didn't pay back their mortgages because they're deadbeats.

He put in a place a lot of policies that would ultimately ass fuck the US job market, namely NAFTA.

Never forget it was that Trump deranged asshat Robert Reich that pushed NAFTA. For some reason he thought removing tariffs with a country whose labor costs are a fraction of the US's was going to some how benefit American workers.

That doesn't even get into his dumpster fire foreign policy problems like Somalia, later to the party handling of Bosnia, and pretending Rwanda didn't happen.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the 90s social and economic climate again but Bill Clinton didn't have much to do with that.
 
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ShortBusDriver said:
I don't think there's any doubt that he caused the mortgage bubble, even Time magazine put the blame squarely on Bill Clinton before they went bat shit crazy.

Democrats thought it was social justice to give deadbeats with bad credit mortgages and complete shocker they didn't pay back their mortgages because they're deadbeats.

He put in a place a lot of policies that would ultimately ass fuck the US job market, namely NAFTA.

Never forget it was that Trump deranged asshat Robert Reich that pushed NAFTA. For some reason he thought removing tariffs with a country whose labor costs are a fraction of the US's was going to some how benefit American workers.

That doesn't even get into his dumpster fire foreign policy problems like Somalia, later to the party handling of Bosnia, and pretending Rwanda didn't happen.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the 90s social and economic climate again but Bill Clinton didn't have much to do with that.
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Don't forget Clinton selling US nuclear secrets to the Chinese.
 
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"Clinton's" economy was the direct result of the tech boom. He had zero to do with it other than keeping interest rates low and removing Glass-Steagall, whereby the financial industry went crazy doing shit they weren't allowed to do since the 1920s, and we ended up paying for it with the tech bubble bursting, enron, worldcomm, and then the 2008 housing crisis. I would say the next collapse will be thanks to Glass-Steagall as well, because banking still hasn't learned their lesson.

So, Clinton didn't do anything great economic-wise. But that's just my informed opinion.
 
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Clinton mostly got lucky with the 90s tech boom happening while he was in office. He wasn't really all that great of a president and he was also the asshole who pushed for the 1994 assault weapons ban, a major infringement on second amendment rights. The Lewinsky thing was a tempest in a teapot though, she was an adult who could make her own decisions, if she got manipulated that's her problem. The Juanita Broderick stuff is much better proof of ole' Bill being a rapist.

That said, obsessing over a politician's sex life is stupid when bad policies can fuck over a large swathe of the country at once, while a cock can only fuck one pussy at a time.
 
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Jesus H Christ said:
The 90's, when America was the world's only superpower, something even the British never experienced, will likely be seen as the last great American decade, unless some really amazing shit is coming that we don't know about yet.
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Literally the most desirable country in the world to live in back then.
 
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