The Walking Dead

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Why did this shit fall off so hard? Seasons 1-5 are absolute peak. Never forget what AMC took from us by being money hungry cocksuckers and forcing bottle episodes and fat bitches making out. Loses all charm without Rick shaking and pissing himself over morality and shit. Getting a thread going for everyone else in an abusive relationship with this show.
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The Walking Dead:

Begins soon after the outbreak (around 2010) and follows the long, evolving survival story over more than a decade. Has moments of peak but seasons 6-11 are an utter slogfest falling into repetitive arcs. Rapes your time and doesn't even give you a definitive end.

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Tales of the Walking Dead:
Anthology series. Cool concept, but pretty mid. Would be great to get another season that explores backstories of characters we know or that fabled episode about the soldier in the tank we never got to see after Darabont got canned.

Fear the Walking Dead:
Set at the very beginning of the outbreak—the “day zero” perspective—on the West Coast, often preceding/overlapping the start of the main series.
First three seasons are great until it becomes turns into the Morgan show and becomes unwatchable. We get to see some cool parts of the lore like Operation Cobalt and the fall of the military. (Bonus points for the shittiest poster I've ever seen).

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World Beyond:
Avoid at all costs. Set in Nebraska ten years after the zombie apocalypse, features four teenage protagonists and focuses on "the first generation to come-of-age in the apocalypse. They tried to do a Gen Z type thing here and it's godawful. It does give us the first bit of lore about the CRM and the experiements they conduct on survivors with the A's and the B's, but I'd just watch a recap online for that stuff.
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The Ones Who Live:
Probably the only spinoff worth watching just to see what happens to Rick. This series replaces the scrapped trilogy of films that were planned to focus on Rick's status after his departure in 9x05 of TWD. Starts strong but gets corny and unbelievable with one of the worst season finales I've ever seen aside from the very end. The normies seem to love it so idk. Still worth watching for Andrew Lincoln, the lore we get about the CRM and the resolution of his character arc.

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TWD: Daryl Dixon:
Set soon after the end of TWD since the finale was pretty much a trailer for this fucking show. Daryl washes ashore in France (the origin of the zombie virus as we see in the post-credits of World Beyond) and struggles to piece together how he got there and why. Adds new walker variants and overall atmosphere to the universe that honestly makes it feel like a completely different show unrelated to TWD. I found it pretty boring and wouldn't recommend. Second season has Carol for whatever that's worth.

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Dead City:
Takes place about 5-6 years after season 11 of TWD. Follows Maggie and Negan traveling into a post-apocalyptic Manhattan cut off from the mainland in search of Maggie's kidnapped son. I haven't seen this one yet and have been debating if it's even worth the time. This pairing is so played out by now and Maggie either needs to just kill Negan or shut the fuck up at this point.

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Series 2 Episode 2, you can tell the second Darabont wasn't the one calling the shots because it shows, goes from Living Dead homage to pure drama TV trash.
I stuck that shit out for ten years man I wish I never bothered; the occasional kernel of edible corn (Early prison arc, Terminus, any scene with Governor/Negan in it) but just a pure shit spray through and throughout, series 1 though? Top tier; I still feel nostalgic anticipation for a series 2 we never got.
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Im legit kinda curious about how off the rails it's gotten Sense they sent Dixon to France and he had to fight new super zombies
 
If I remember correctly, they kicked out the writers who killed off characters. So after some disagreements they only kept the ones that could turn it to an endless soap opera. Spoiler: They of course had to kill off the Asian guy and the main characters WHITE KID, in order to only have the niglet and the cuck child left. AMC even manage to milk out 3 additional spin-off series, they made TWD a literal slop machine. Again, just typing shit out of my head, I think the The Governor was supposed to kill off Daryl or Carol (or even earlier), but kept them due to being fan favorites, but again the writers who actually had balls looked at them as GoT characters, but AMC pussied out and gave everyone plot armour instead.

I hate this show.
 
Series 2 Episode 2, you can tell the second Darabont wasn't the one calling the shots because it shows, goes from Living Dead homage to pure drama TV trash.
I stuck that shit out for ten years man I wish I never bothered; the occasional kernel of edible corn (Early prison arc, Terminus, any scene with Governor/Negan in it) but just a pure shit spray through and throughout, series 1 though? Top tier; I still feel nostalgic anticipation for a series 2 we never got.
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I don't know how many seasons in it was, but I just stopped caring when they beat Negan, he was the only saving grace in a world where zombies were curbed in favour of needless, worthless drama between everyone.

We all came for the zombies, yet got spoon-fed slop drama for no reason.
Im legit kinda curious about how off the rails it's gotten Sense they sent Dixon to France and he had to fight new super zombies
Carol joins him because she's """her""", powerful now, and they come to terms with their inner demons while high as everyone else around them dies to fungus zombies.
 
I’m so nostalgic for the season 2 era and Dale. The moral arguments were always the most entertaining parts of the show, especially when they were on the road and anything could happen at any time.

After Darabont left the show lost most of its soul and the deliberateness the story and characters were written with.
 
the wife watches it as background noise on pluto a lot
I mostly don't pay attention, but could somebody please explain what cosmic force is being prevented by not just killing Negan?
I get there's points where he has leverage or is in charge or whatever, but holy fuck I swear half of this show is this asshole just running his mouth constantly about everything and nobody ever just fucking kills him even though he killed everybody's best friend a dozen times.
If he dies does the remaining atomic doomsday weapons fire? Do the zombies grow wings and fly?

There obviously must have been an episode I missed where there is an important discovery that explains why nobody just shoots him in the face after the next time he starts to ramble about some crap
 
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I mostly don't pay attention, but could somebody please explain what cosmic force is being prevented by not just killing Negan?
I get there's points where he has leverage or is in charge or whatever, but holy fuck I swear half of this show is this asshole just running his mouth constantly about everything and nobody ever just fucking kills him even though he killed everybody's best friend a dozen times.
If he dies does the remaining atomic doomsday weapons fire? Do the zombies grow wings and fly?

There obviously must have been an episode I missed where there is an important discovery that explains why nobody just shoots him in the face after the next time he starts to ramble about some crap
You don't get it, chud!
If we kill Negan, we are just as le bad as he is! We would lose all credibility among the factions, and it would all devolve back into anarchy!

To my memory, it was pretty much this, which was ironic considering (take everything here with a grain of salt) that once Maggie found out they where keeping him alive she took her own faction and split from them.
 
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the wife watches it as background noise on pluto a lot
I mostly don't pay attention, but could somebody please explain what cosmic force is being prevented by not just killing Negan?
I get there's points where he has leverage or is in charge or whatever, but holy fuck I swear half of this show is this asshole just running his mouth constantly about everything and nobody ever just fucking kills him even though he killed everybody's best friend a dozen times.
If he dies does the remaining atomic doomsday weapons fire? Do the zombies grow wings and fly?

There obviously must have been an episode I missed where there is an important discovery that explains why nobody just shoots him in the face after the next time he starts to ramble about some crap
Because after every character of any worth left the show they needed Negan so people would keep watching. So we'll just kill Carl and make up some bullshit about how we can have a bright future. Even now they're milking JDM with Dead City and drawing out the Maggie vs Negan you killed my husband shit for 10 years.
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@Dread Baron i cannot keep track of the walking dead’s 4-5 other spin-offs do you think you could add a “map” to the OP of all the different shows?

The first spin-off was Fear The Walking Dead which was actually really good at first, showing what happened Day 0. It was actually fully plausible. The infected only die to headshots, and police aim for center mass, so people see a guy get mag dumped by police, they’re going to get pissed. But they don’t know he’s a walker. Then there was all kinds of protesting in the streets like BLM and shit. And then from there, the infection spread from all the people out in the streets. That’s good writing.

But I cannot keep track of the 4 other different series that I know of, there could be more.

One has Daryl in damn France of all places. One has Negan and Maggie in New York and the other has Rick and Michonne. I think they are trying to tie it all together like Avengers but like come on. Why do I need the AMC app to see this?

And then another one was probably canceled but it was like tumblr irl as a group of kids, that shit was so bad. “World Beyond”. Somehow three overweight kids walk all the way from the Midwest to the eastern coast without shedding a pound.
 
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@Dread Baron i cannot keep track of the walking dead’s 4-5 other spin-offs do you think you could add a “map” to the OP of all the different shows?

The first spin-off was Fear The Walking Dead which was actually really good at first, showing what happened Day 0. It was actually fully plausible. The infected only die to headshots, and police aim for center mass, so people see a guy get mag dumped by police, they’re going to get pissed. But they don’t know he’s a walker. Then there was all kinds of protesting in the streets like BLM and shit. And then from there, the infection spread from all the people out in the streets. That’s good writing.

But I cannot keep track of the 4 other different series that I know of, there could be more.

One has Daryl in damn France of all places. One has Negan and Maggie in New York and the other has Rick and Michonne. I think they are trying to tie it all together like Avengers but like come on. Why do I need the AMC app to see this?

And then another one was probably canceled but it was like tumblr irl as a group of kids, that shit was so bad. “World Beyond”. Somehow
Yeah I just added it. Was trying to do a definitive timeline too but the writers are incredibly inconsistent with timeline and kinda expect you to just roll with it. This guy's channel is pretty good.

 
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Fear the walking dead is a story about how a single neurotic woman can bring down society itself.

I gotta point out here
>CRM is basically the enclave in resources Intel etc.
>let's gas these communities of hundreds of thousands of skilled survivors because they will drag us down we need to ensure the future of the crm.
>also let's NOT send technicians to nuclear reactors around the country to ensure shit gets into dry storage and turned off, the breadbasket of America can be turned into the zone, as a treat.

So full of glaring plotholes it might as well be a wreck in the pacific seabed
 
Hooked me with the opening episodes of Season 1, lost me by the first half of Season 2. Dropped it then and haven't looked back, in my heart they're all still on that farm.
Season 1 is basically the only one that was made with any kind of budget and attention to detail in mind. After that AMC figured out they had a moneyprinter on their hands and proceeded to cut costs and milk it for all it's worth.

Not that it matters, the comic itself lost steam by the end of the prison arc, with the retardation that is Michonne being the final nail in the coffin.

The idea was fun, but neither the TV show writers, nor Kirkman, never had the talent to turn it into something actually worthwhile.
 
I fondly remember actually just sitting down for a few weeks and speed running binging, hadn't seen it at all and it was around season 7 I think. Even that late it was ok, but then just nothing happened and it just kind of trailed off into the ether. I really couldn't stand the whole Alpha storyline that seemed to go on and on and on and that's around when I just quit in boredom and never watched the last season or 2. And of course they ruined Negan after a strong start.

I think my favorite thing about the whole IP were the Telltale games, at least the first few with Clementine still as a kid.
The family cannibal scene where you can just stand there and do nothing and finally tell them to choke on it all and fuck off was so hilarious.
 
Why did this shit fall off so hard?
Because like many things in the TV/movie world, AMC thought they could do it better than how it was written. But as usual a bunch of no talent hacks get a hold of something and ruin it. Don't forget that when they jew producers see a cash cow that they will run it into the ground for more sheckles, the goy cattle will still eat it up.
 
Why did this shit fall off so hard? Seasons 1-5 are absolute peak.
It really wasn't. TWD was always a "good enough" show plagued by baffling instances of bad writing in nearly every episode. It was uniformly uneven.

Eventually, those terrible writing choices compounded and got so bad it revealed the show was hollow on the inside: the writer's weren't exploring interesting themes with some ultimate goal(s) in mind. The long-running characters didn't have planned arcs. There was no ending they were working towards. It really was, as the detractors always claimed, just a soap opera with zombies, just a product with only a facade of art to it. And AMC would have kept shitting the bed in the same predictable ways if people had kept watching.

The cast was generally excellent. There are great episodes and scenes. The makeup work is phenomenal. But it's just not very good, ultimately.
 
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Fear the walking dead is a story about how a single neurotic woman can bring down society itself.

I gotta point out here
>CRM is basically the enclave in resources Intel etc.
>let's gas these communities of hundreds of thousands of skilled survivors because they will drag us down we need to ensure the future of the crm.
>also let's NOT send technicians to nuclear reactors around the country to ensure shit gets into dry storage and turned off, the breadbasket of America can be turned into the zone, as a treat.

So full of glaring plotholes it might as well be a wreck in the pacific seabed
That's the problem when you don't really know how to write a show. Especially with the villains season after season the plots become emptier and emptier for the sake of spectacle until you're so far abstracted from what made the shown great in the earlier seasons. It all culminates with Rick and Michonne taking down and reforming the CRM (the supposed mega big bad of the universe) in 15 minutes and mostly offscreen. Such a monumental shit taken all over the buildup and secrecy of the CRM and the direction of the universe.

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