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"Agentic AI" is a total clown show. Using a LLM this way amounts to having a task manager with non-deterministic inputs and outputs and is therefore fundamentally incapable of reliably sanitizing the inputs. Oh and processing a single input is as computationally expensive as running Cyberpunk on max settings at 4K for a couple seconds.

If I were to put it that way and suggest it to my boss, I would immediately be fired. Then my boss would be fired for ever hiring an idiot like me.
 
The Ugly One said:
"Agentic AI" is a total clown show. Using a LLM this way amounts to having a task manager with non-deterministic inputs and outputs and is therefore fundamentally incapable of reliably sanitizing the inputs. Oh and processing a single input is as computationally expensive as running Cyberpunk on max settings at 4K for a couple seconds.

If I were to put it that way and suggest it to my boss, I would immediately be fired. Then my boss would be fired for ever hiring an idiot like me.
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But it's Brawndo AI, it's what plants users crave!
 
Slav Power said:

Windows 11 Agentic Features Are Security Nightmare, Microsoft Confirms​

So, they know it's a major security problem. They make it opt-in. They know it's a bad idea. Yet they're still working on it. Not to mention how fucking stupid it is that you're now delegating something as simple as ordering pizza to AI to automate the task for you.

This feels like the Windows dev team knows that this is a bad idea, they don't want to do it, but the higher ups are holding the proverbial gun to their head forcing them to implement this shit because investors like AI so they have to implement useless AI features that nobody asked for. The worst part is that there will be nigger cattle that'll like this as they're that lazy, justifying the existence of this garbage to the higher-ups. Given how Bill Gates was the one to cement the idea of company infighting I don't think it's a far-fetched theory to make that all of Microsoft isn't scheming together on this, but rather there's an internal company conflict over it leading to this shit.
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The article's example of ordering a pizza is almost perfect to make people like us think this is idiotic, because it's something none of us would ever want to use AI to do. We immediately think that's a tool for morons. But there are many cases where I do want AI to access processes and resources on my local machine. I've actually been experimenting with this recently setting up MCP (Model Context Protocol) servers on my system so that local models I'm running in LM Studio can access it. It's pretty neat - I define the MCP with specifically the directory hierarchy(ies) I want it to have access to, and what permissions I want, and then I can type something into my local model like "organise all these files into folders according to size" or "add parameter documentation to all the functions defined in these files" and in theory, watch it go. I'm not there yet but I'm getting there. And Microsoft are approaching this in the right way in creating specific accounts with limited and customizable ACLs for agents to use. I should be able to, as a power user, set my own up in time and control what privileges it actually has.

The article picking "ordering a pizza" is very limited thinking on their part.

This is coming to all major user-facing vendors. Apple will be doing this. Google and Chromebooks will be doing this. If any of the big ones were foolish enough not to do it, they'd fall behind. Frankly, I like what I've seen of how Microsoft are approaching this. Others say "AI this! AI this!" whilst from Microsoft I see them talking about how to guard against things like Indirect Prompt Injection.

I mentioned in this thread the other week that they introduced AI Shell back in August. It's good. I've set up a test directory that it has access to and only that has access to and though it's not as capable as I'd like yet, the principles are being lain down. Here's me configuring the permissions in an MCP server that I created. I have a lot of control.
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I should be able to take this approach with other of their AI services in due course.

EDIT: I expect a bunch of reflexive disagreement to this from the grognards, naturally. I also expect to be proven right in time. I even expect mainstream Linux distros to start offering this.
 
Think I fixed the explorer.exe hangup on login on my laptop through the good old DISM/SFC "reinstall the whole OS" method. I think, restarted it a couple of times and the shitty React taskbar is instantly available. The rest of the autorun software takes it's sweet time to load, but, well, it is a laptop, and all of it loads so I feel like it's all good now. The October update refuses to install and just loops the downloading process but hey ho, that's Microsoft for ya. At least the rest of the system works flawlessly.

All in all I feel like 11 is pretty snappy, and any iffyness is more down to the fact that it's a laptop. Like how the boot screen takes more than the logon screen when awakening it from hibernation. Maybe I should give 11 IoT LTSC a spin on my spare PC that I last used to test run Win7 and acts as my bedside table, see how it'll fare on a Haswell antique.
 
Your next Windows PC:

Pocket8086 – An handheld x86 retro computer with an XT-class 8086/V30 CPU running DOS 6.22 or Windows 3.1

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The Pocket8086 is a handheld retro computer built around classic 8086, 8088, NEC V20, or NEC V30 processors, giving it the performance and behavior of an 8086-class retro computer while still offering the convenience of a compact handheld form factor. Designed for vintage-computing enthusiasts, DOS gamers, and makers, it delivers a handheld retro computing experience suitable for DOS 6.22 as well as Windows 3.0/3.1, effectively packing an XT-class machine into a portable device.
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The Pocket8086, a handheld retro, is available on AliExpress for $166.73. The SA8-Exp-01 ISA bus expansion card is also sold separately on AliExpress $17.94. If you are looking for something a little more powerful, there’s also a 386SX version sold on AliExpress for $225and Amazon for $269.99.
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
running DOS 6.22 or Windows 3.1
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>8086
>Windows 3.1
Ah yes, the 8086 machine that can run an OS that requires a 286 at minimum.
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Okay let's see who wrote this article...
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Yep, Pajeets are gonna Pajeet.
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And while he corrected the title, he still treats 3.0 and 3.1 interchangeably. I'll admit I've been ignorant to the 3.0/3.1 distinction myself but it was with awareness that they are different and that I'll most likely be wrong if I run my mouth without fact checking first. But I instantly had a gut feeling that an 8086 machine running Windows 3.1 doesn't sit right.
 
Slav Power said:
>8086
>Windows 3.1
Ah yes, the 8086 machine that can run an OS that requires a 286 at minimum.
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Okay let's see who wrote this article...
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Yep, Pajeets are gonna Pajeet.
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And while he corrected the title, he still treats 3.0 and 3.1 interchangeably. I'll admit I've been ignorant to the 3.0/3.1 distinction myself but it was with awareness that they are different and that I'll most likely be wrong if I run my mouth without fact checking first. But I instantly had a gut feeling that an 8086 machine running Windows 3.1 doesn't sit right.
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Found the machine's website. The 8086 and 8088 versions won't run Windows 3.1.
Pocket8086 is an IBM PC-XT compatible laptop that supports one of the 8086 or 8088 processors, as well as the NEC V20/V30 processor. In addition to the base 640KB memory, it also comes with 128KB UMB memory. Its BIOS uses IBM PC-XT 05/08/86 version, and is pre-installed with DOS6.22 system. If a V20 or V30 processor is installed, it will support Windows3.1
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The Mass Shooter Ron Soye said:
Your next Windows PC:

Pocket8086 – An handheld x86 retro computer with an XT-class 8086/V30 CPU running DOS 6.22 or Windows 3.1
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Pretty weird specs. An XT with a VGA and Adlib card doesn't feel like a hugely common configuration for the era. In particular, I don't think there would be many VGA games that would run on an XT.

Slav Power said:
I'll admit I've been ignorant to the 3.0/3.1 distinction myself but it was with awareness that they are different and that I'll most likely be wrong if I run my mouth without fact checking first. But I instantly had a gut feeling that an 8086 machine running Windows 3.1 doesn't sit right.
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Back in the day, my Win 3.1 was fucked up and for some retarded reason I decided to do a fresh install with 3.0. Major difference I can recall was the lack of true type fonts in 3.0.
 
guiltyspark85 said:
Major difference I can recall was the lack of true type fonts in 3.0.
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There were a lot of other kernel differences, too. I think 3.1 had the first VXD support (I didn't bother to Google that), and 386 enhanced mode. I didn't have enough RAM to use it, so I just used 3 in real mode. There was also win32s for 3.1, which let you run a handful of primitive 32 bit applications on it, like that card game only nerds played. I know there were a few browsers that would work with win32s, early Netscape comes to mind, but this was back in the era where everyone was building their own version of Mosaic (Spyglass, Symantec, Quarterdeck, et al).

My guess is they had already built the VGA logic and it was easier than building a CGA/Herc mode. The OPL was a lot easier than any other wavetable, but I'd somewhat have expected a DAC/Disney Sound Source because it's basically just adding ~10 resistors to the parallel port.
 
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