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Dear Abby offers advice to a young man who is sad because his crush won't take the initiative to ask him out.

DEAR ABBY: I am a college student finishing up my final year. There’s this girl I have liked since my sophomore year. Unfortunately, things didn’t pan out. After I asked if we could hang out one-on-one, she explained that she didn’t like romance.

We ended up being friends, though. However, I have noticed we are hanging out less and less often, and I’m usually the one making the effort. It bothers me because we get along quite well, and when we do hang out, it’s for a long time. We have good conversations and have shared personal stories.

The last time we were together, I told her I would leave the initiative with her, and she should tell me when she next wanted to get together. That was two months ago, and I’m getting the feeling she probably isn’t going to ask me. It makes me really sad.

If by the end of the semester she doesn’t reach out, should I send her a message expressing my disappointment but wish her well? Or should I ask if I could meet her once more before leaving? (I doubt I will see her again after graduation.) I suppose this would be going back on my word about leaving it up to her, but I don’t want to feel regret. — SMITTEN IN INDIANA

DEAR SMITTEN: From what you have written, this young woman has been trying to let you down gently, but her message hasn’t gotten through. She is not interested in a romance with you. What do you think you would accomplish by asking to see her “one more time”? Speaking as an unbiased spectator, it could be awkward for her and painful for you. If you would like to text her a message wishing her well, it might be a better way to close this chapter of your life.

DEAR ABBY: I’m an older gay male with many gay friends, but I have never come out to family, although I’m confident most of them know or suspect my sexual orientation.

I invited my cousin and her husband to a small get-together before an event here in the city near my house. I also invited a few close (gay) friends who were attending the event. I’m fairly close with this cousin, but have never talked about my sexual orientation with her.

One of my friends is very open about his life, and I asked him politely to refrain from talking about it when meeting my cousin and her husband for the first time. He agreed, although he was a bit taken aback. He later called me a “homophobe.” Was I wrong to ask that those personal details not be a part of the conversation? — DISCREET IN THE EAST

DEAR DISCREET: You state that you suspect that some of your family members are aware of your sexual orientation. You have the right to invite anyone you wish to your social gatherings, but having done so, you shouldn’t attempt to censor who they are. Because you have some gay people at a party does not necessarily mean you are gay, too. That said, this might have been a missed opportunity for you to open that closet door a few inches wider.

Dear Abby is written by Abigail Van Buren, also known as Jeanne Phillips, and was founded by her mother, Pauline Phillips. Contact Dear Abby at www.DearAbby.com or P.O. Box 69440, Los Angeles, CA 90069.




Focus on yourself, king.


Truly we have a generation of men who just don't know how to handle women, through no fault of their own - their parents have never spoken to them about these things before, and only grew up watching Disney movies thinking that that's how people normally interact.

As a result, Disney manchildren are practically destined to live and die alone.
 
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We ended up being friends, though. However, I have noticed we are hanging out less and less often, and I’m usually the one making the effort. It bothers me because we get along quite well, and when we do hang out, it’s for a long time. We have good conversations and have shared personal stories.
Start fucking one or more of her friends, and then she'll want all of your attention.
 
Hot take: male and female friendship should be normalized. You aren't gay or weird if you don't see women as sexual objects to be exploited for your pleasure.
Yea but more often than not, most kids his age just can't handle 100% friendship (most adults are no better at this either). In time, you realize that it's actually nice, even useful, to have a lady friend, someone whom you can shoot the shit with, every once in a while.


She can be a great wingwoman (and you can be her wingman), even. Giving you enough insights to bypass women's bullshit filter.
 
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Hot take: male and female friendship should be normalized. You aren't gay or weird if you don't see women as sexual objects to be exploited for your pleasure.
Your partner is supposed to be your friend and confidante of the opposite sex.
If you have a girlfriend, but would rather spend time hanging out with a different woman that's weird, and I'm sure is creating a lot of doubt for your girlfriend
 
Hot take: male and female friendship should be normalized. You aren't gay or weird if you don't see women as sexual objects to be exploited for your pleasure.
Sure give the simps a chance until they snap. Joking aside, I just don't think men and women are similar enough in general for it to be normalised, or at least for it to happen enough that it is normalised. I tend to see far more parasocial friendships between men and women rather than good ones
 
She doesn’t fancy you.
Hardest lesson you’ll ever learn; you can’t make anyone love you.
Back away, leave her to it. Go find a girl that does like you.
Hot take: male and female friendship should be normalized. You aren't gay or weird if you don't see women as sexual objects to be exploited for your pleasure.
It should be, it I’m not sure it can be. This stuff is deeply wired in to us
 
Your partner is supposed to be your friend and confidante of the opposite sex.
If you have a girlfriend, but would rather spend time hanging out with a different woman that's weird, and I'm sure is creating a lot of doubt for your girlfriend
Honestly, I have no desire to have any other close female friends whenever I'm in a relationship, and anyone who does is both a spiritual nigger and a spiritual polygamist.
 
Hot take: male and female friendship should be normalized. You aren't gay or weird if you don't see women as sexual objects to be exploited for your pleasure.
The issue with being friends with women is that, at least from personal experience, you need to keep the female friends separate from the male friends.
Men often bond by calling each other names and generally being rough.
Very few women can handle that, the average male banter will be -ist, -phobic and generally hateful for the majority of women.
You can't just be yourself around women, you have to censor yourself to an extent,
Male friends won't mind if you act retarded for the most part and being able to act retarded around your friends is very important in a man's life.
 
The friendzoned male is one who needs that brutal lesson of proper rejection if they don't take the hint. Some women are just too nice for their own good and end up in a situation that isn't comfortable for anyone. There's no need for anyone to be brutal straight away, a soft rejection should always be the first option, but if that message doesn't get through someone needs to have a proper word.

I can 100% understand why lots of women don't want to do this, because it's just not in people's nature to be that harsh, but it really is needed at times.

The friendzone isn't the same as being friends either, men and women absolutely can be friends.
 
As if the guy writing into Dear Abby would ever read this, but he really should just pull the ripcord and move on. I watched my best friend torture himself for years pining over a girl he couldn't have as she was with another mutual friend. It's pathetic and even worse you're wasting time you could be developing a worthwhile relationship with someone who doesn't leave you on read for two months.
 
To the guy in the OP:


Just forget her and move on to other chicks. When a woman says she wants to be friends, she really doesn't want to be around you like that. Oblige her honestly. She's just one bitchfish in a sea of women that could appreciate you for you.

Hot take: male and female friendship should be normalized. You aren't gay or weird if you don't see women as sexual objects to be exploited for your pleasure.
Honestly most relationships should start from friendships rather than through the simulation of the soullessness of job applications that is modern dating.

I have a feeling that more relationships would be stable and more amenable to increasing birthrates and passing knowledge and tradition to children if that occured.

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Joking aside, I just don't think men and women are similar enough in general for it to be normalised, or at least for it to happen enough that it is normalised. I tend to see far more parasocial friendships between men and women rather than good ones
I think that's more of a modern thing really. Unless you do something that's hyper-XTREME or out there as a dude or conventionally girly as a chick, most hobbies and third spaces tend to have some mix of men and women. Like even nerdy vidya/anime conventions could get a lot of female attendees that would be genuinely be interested in some section of that fandom (the one's more oriented towards girls most of the time but you get my point).

Something happened in the mid 2010s to shut this normal male-female interaction dynamic down and now shit's all topsy turvy. I can't say what with pinpoint accuracy, but it certainly has to do with SJW politics and social media affecting how people interact.
 
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Hot take: male and female friendship should be normalized. You aren't gay or weird if you don't see women as sexual objects to be exploited for your pleasure.
Friendly as coworkers? Sure, but having female friends outside of work usually doesn't end well, especially if either you or her are in a relationship or seeking one
 
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Ah yes, oneitis. Many such cases. Unfortunately this particular instance looks terminal.
Hot take: male and female friendship should be normalized. You aren't gay or weird if you don't see women as sexual objects to be exploited for your pleasure.
For normal guy friendships, not talking for months, then grabbing a beer when evwryone has time and (most importantly) not making a big deal out of it is the norm.
We ended up being friends, though. However, I have noticed we are hanging out less and less often, and I’m usually the one making the effort. It bothers me because we get along quite well, and when we do hang out, it’s for a long time. We have good conversations and have shared personal stories.
This guy isnt treating her like a friend, he's treating her like an ex. He wants her attention. Dude needs to move on. Plenty of fish in the sea.
 
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