JamesWebbSlinger
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Beat me to the punch to post that. After the Charlie Kirk, & Ian Kochinski photo, you would think he would know better:
At least Mary Morgan, from Pop Culture Crisis did not follow in Beanie Leader's footsteps:
Tim had Elijah Schaffer, of mass-shooter-clipping fame, as a guest. In all honesty, I was surprised that he would host him, once more, after that.
He brought along Brett, & Mary, to co-host. Though only Mary got billing on the title card.
Thought, both Brett & Mary were like window dressing, with Brett rarely piping in & Mary remaining mum, aside from a few chuckles at Elijah's jokes. It is an episode which does not talk the news of the day, but over Israel & Jewish power. Naturally, it is a very difficult episode to get through, with Tim doing his level best to deflect any blame from Israel & AIPAC.
*Elijah & Tim joust over whether protestors are "pro-Hamas" or not. This devolves into a long, drawn-out argument over Israel, Jewish influence over politics, etc. No more news stories are discussed after this point, just Tim & Elijah arguing: 18:55-1:34:04
As a sub-timestamp from the above, Tim harangues Elijah over his fixation on Israel controlling everything, which Elijah never claimed: 47:26-55:05
*The panel discusses Nick Fuentes, his fans' actions, etc.: 1:34:04-1:51:16
*Elijah came bearing Australian gifts, so it ends with a taste-testing of them: 1:51:16-1:59:00
Clip Collection:
-I think Mary enjoys having a guest make the racist jokes on the panel, besides her, so they can take the heat. In this case, saying that the LSU frat boy should have made gorilla noises at a black protestor, not monkey ones:
Here is the clip being discussed, with Dr. Doolittle coming in from the right at 0:07:
-Tim claims Elijah is taking a side, by being against Israel, despite him claiming to be neutral when he says protestors are not "pro-Hamas", & are calling out Israel stealing land:
-Elijah explains how leftists can support Ukraine & Gaza, because in both cases those nations are labelled "victims". Mary laughs when Elijah notes that how they are not using Middle Eastern women to sell support for Gaza, in the same way Ukrainian women did for their war, because people may not find them attractive:
-Immediately after, Tim declares himself "mostly neutral" & Elijah is not due to calling what Israel is doing "war crimes". Elijah claims a conservative group tried to push him to claim it was an IED, not a missile strike, exploding in a video. Tim says he cannot tell what is happening from these videos, & "Wow, that's a war, why is anyone arguing the morality to me?" & stating we should not be providing any aid to either:
This is the video in question:
-Tim trots out how he cares as much about Israel as Myanmar. Elijah argues that Tim should care more about groups, like AIPAC, which "meddle" in U.S. affairs. Elijah notes he only got in trouble talking about Israel, but not other nations undermining America. Tim says the reason they are not an enemy is because they are "a vassal state" & it is "the military-industrial complex", which is in charge, that wants to invade Iran:
-Tim misconstrues Elijah, claiming he was saying Israel is the origin "for all woke policies". Elijah brings up how the U.S. has other bases in the Middle East, so Israel is not necessary. He goes on to explain how AIPAC & Israel are pushing their agenda to influence other nations, while we call others that do this, such as Russia, an "enemy". Tim says "we want to win these territories", use Israel to benefit the military-industrial complex, & blames laws against antisemitism as a result from "post-modernism emerging":
-Tim asks if Elijah would vote for Joe Biden, if he severed ties with Israel & opposed AIPAC. Elijah says he is not a single-issue voter, so he would not, but if there was a new politician that did have that platform, he would. Tim says there are people that would vote Biden, if he did, & said that is Israel Derangement Syndrome. Elijah argues that Jews voting for Trump, just because he is pro-Israel, despite completely loathing him, it is "the same [type of] maniac":
-Elijah specifies his criticism is for AIPAC influencing the U.S. & because it is "antisemitic" to criticise Israel, which raises questions of their undue influence. Tim trots out how islamophobia was the cause célèbre for censorship & the Saudis had influence over Twitter, & only now is it about reining in antisemitism which he claims undermines Elijah's point:
-While "not [being] educated on this", Mary is cheering on Elijah & siding with him, silently:
-Elijah talks about how people came to see Jews as the enemy, but clearly says both the show & he do not think this. Tim agrees, & says these people should "start a business, work out, eat healthy", & are wasting their efforts. Elijah goes on to note how Nick Fuentes was unable to do as Tim recommends, because of how he was treated, which plays into the idea of Jews controlling everything:
-Tim believes Nick Fuentes' fans are "fake" & are intentionally sabotaging him by being "vile" to anyone, preventing him being hosted anywhere. Mary thinks the groypers are real & mostly "teenagers". Tim argues that groypers are "sockpuppet accounts" of leftists, or else his fans are sabotaging Nick's chances to be invited to more places, meaning he is doomed to fail:
-Elijah highlights the right-wing gatekeepers "pushed Nick into the recesses of the internet", & alt-tech had a larger contingent of people banned earlier, which meant being around people that regularly made "rape" & "death threats". Tim says it is an attempt to smear him, but he then says he defers to Mary & Elijah that "I'm wrong, you're right", fans of Nick Fuentes make threats to rape children. Mary is flabbergasted by this, while Elijah asks is it not the same with people connecting Tim to crazy "fans" that watch him:
-Tim says whenever Nick is mentioned, it results in a barrage of harassment, & larger channels are not willing to host him in exchange for the heightened security costs. Mary jokes if that is what Tim shall do, now. Tim says he is brave enough to "say what is going on" , but other channels may be getting "24-hour security" over it. Elijah says hosting Nick cost him money, & lost "six figures" over his criticism of Israel. Tim says two things you get with Nick is security costs & advertiser loss. Tim reiterates that the more egregious groypers are people "trying to destroy" Nick:
-Elijah ends the episode with magnanimity, describing how you need to be assertive making your points, but Tim "is really nice to me off camera". Brett jokes that Tim agrees with Elijah, but is in fear of Ben Shapiro. Tim jokes that the pre-show briefing involves a questionnaire from Ben Shapiro on Israel to judge who can come on the show:
Bonus Bits:
-While Tim was emitting more noxious fumes than a Chinese coal power plant, this episode, Ian is in his street preacher phase, in Miami. God, I miss this interrupting Tim's long diatribes. What I would have given for Ian to say a gnostic-graphene stew of barminess to break up this tedious episode. Also considering his anti-Israel trajectory, I expect he may have backed up Elijah, at least a bit:
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