Tobacco appreciation thread - Winners never quit, and quitters never win

[Hantavirus]

According to studies, about two thirds of American smokers want to quit, and it's similar in other Western countries. The terms "committed smoker" or "confirmed smoker" refers to the one third who do not. Reported motivation for smoking varies, but health authorities are increasingly frustrated by the proportion of tobacco users who will stubbornly spend $20+ for a puke green pack of Marlboro Reds covered in government-issue gore, go outside every half hour, and light up in blistering heat, bitter cold, and driving wind. Nobody doesn't know by now that cigarettes are bad for you, but some people just don't care, and things are becoming more complicated as the younger generations are using synthetic nicotine products in numbers that parallel smoking rates in the 70's, and the 25-40 crowd are rediscovering traditional forms of tobacco use. New research is even casting doubt on the supposed health hazards of smokeless tobacco, especially snus and snuff, which are widely used in Europe, and which recently had all labels referring to cancer removed, leaving only the flaccid "this product contains nicotine, which is addictive and damages your health."

With all that said, what ways do you Kiwis enjoy this gift from God? I have been a pipe smoker for a long time, but I got into cigarillos (I can smoke a Romeo y Julietta in 10-15 minutes with no prep time) and snus (no need to go outside, and you can enjoy during meetings, desk work, etc. even in areas with very strict smoking bans) not too long ago. I recently tried snuff, and I am really enjoying it.

 

[Chickin BBQ]

Occasional committed smoker powerlevel time.

Cigars are classy, but absolutely knock me on my ass with the nicotine effects, and are mostly reserved for special occasions.
Cigarettes are a social work thing with colleagues, but in normal life I tend to avoid them, since the tobacco taste in them is somewhere between garbage and shit, and has zero of the fun knockout nicotine effects of a cigar, or a cigarillo.
Pipe is the patrician choice, but like cigars are reserved for special occasions. Surprisingly it takes a lot more pipe to knock me on my ass with the nicotine effects, than a cigar, so this is a perfect companion to contemplation. Hike somewhere innawoods, get a fire going, smoke a pipe and stare at the sky. The Indians (feather not dot) had the right idea.
Vape is my choice for travel, but mostly as a social work thing thing as a cigarette alternative. There's exactly one brand/flavor I can deal with, and I stick to that.

Inhaling smoke is patently retarded and I refuse to do it.

 

[Mesh Gear Fox]

Love my Marlboros, been smoking for almost 30 years. I'll quit when I'm dead, which I learned makes me a "committed" smoker. We all die one day, I'm having fun while I'm here.

 

[Beautiful Border]

I just vape. More specifically, I use a refillable Oxva Xlim Pro with 20mg Nic Salt liquid. I've smoked a couple of cigarettes before but I don't think the risk-to-reward ratio of being a daily smoker really makes sense.

 

[Tablet County]

Enjoy various forms of cancer, smoker child.

 

[ForgedBlades]

I've been dipping a can of Cope Long Cut a day for close to 20 years now. I haven't smoked in a long time but when I did it was usually Turkish Royals or Parliament Full Flavor.

 

[Whatevermancer]

You're a drug addict.

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

I was a ~biweekly cigar smoker until my artsy friends introduced me to cigarettes. Most cigs are disgusting but I've found good ones that actually taste like mild tobacco without too much bullshit. It's really about the ritual/occasion more than the flavor itself. I guess me saying that is a warning sign that I'm probably not gonna quit so easily.
Protip for non-smokers: don't hang out with musicians lol

 

[Tequila Jong]

Hand rolling all day. It was always Golden Virginia for me. At an old job a bunch of guys used to buy Drum in bulk for pretty cheap so I ended up smoking that instead for about a year. At another job, a guy I smoked with realised he could make a smoke break last longer by smoking cigarillos, so I went through a phase of those too. Snuff is awesome.

It's really about the ritual/occasion more than the flavor itself.

Indeed. Always good fun to peel away from a social gathering with two or three other smokers for ten minutes and have a good conversation. Not sure why it happens that way, but it just does.

 

[ForgedBlades]

You're a drug addict.

Yeah, so?

 

[Hantavirus]

Love my Marlboros, been smoking for almost 30 years. I'll quit when I'm dead, which I learned makes me a "committed" smoker. We all die one day, I'm having fun while I'm here.

I feel the same way. I think a lot of people woke up to this during the covid hysteria--that there might sometimes be a tradeoff between quality of life and lifespan, but you don't have to always blindly choose the latter. I used to enjoy a Camel Turkish Gold or American Spirit Perique a couple times a day, but decided they weren't worth the risk when I love tobacco in all its other forms.

I just vape. More specifically, I use a refillable Oxva Xlim Pro with 20mg Nic Salt liquid. I've smoked a couple of cigarettes before but I don't think the risk-to-reward ratio of being a daily smoker really makes sense.

I have tried the zoomer pacifier, but even though they can be very strong, they just don't feel the same. Tobacco is loaded with MAOIs that potentiate nicotine and act like a sort of antidepressant, so if you use a form that gives a buzz, like dokha (forgot to mention it in the OP but that's one of my favorites, a rare treat), your buzz has "legs" when it comes with harman, norharman, anabasine, anatabine, and nornicotine. This type of drug is used to treat anxiety, depression, and Parkinson's, among other things.

Enjoy various forms of cancer, smoker child.

If you read the OP you would know that smokeless tobacco carries very low risk of oral cancer. In fact, Swedish snus makers changed the formulas for their snus to all but eliminate "tobaccos-specific nitrosamines" which are the primary risk factor in smokeless, given that there is no tar, nitric oxide, or other combustion byproducts, and subsequently forced the EU to repeal the requirement to label packages with cancer warnings. Even pipe and cigar smoking, where the smoke is not inhaled but only held in the mouth, carries one tenth or less the risk of cancer.

I've been dipping a can of Cope Long Cut a day for close to 20 years now. I haven't smoked in a long time but when I did it was usually Turkish Royals or Parliament Full Flavor.

If you ever want to try something different, I can't recommend snus highly enough. The flavor is more salty than sweet, and the fermentation process makes it very tasty.

Hand rolling all day. It was always Golden Virginia for me. At an old job a bunch of guys used to buy Drum in bulk for pretty cheap so I ended up smoking that instead for about a year. At another job, a guy I smoked with realised he could make a smoke break last longer by smoking cigarillos, so I went through a phase of those too. Snuff is awesome.



Indeed. Always good fun to peel away from a social gathering with two or three other smokers for ten minutes and have a good conversation. Not sure why it happens that way, but it just does.

Always interesting to find a hand rolling enjoyer in the wild. I haven't hand rolled since I last smoked a joint many, many years ago lol. I just discovered snuff, and it's like when I first discovered pipe tobacco--there's this whole world of history, styles, manufacturers, etc. that is very fun to explore. Plus you can get a bit of a buzz from the stronger snuffs, and you don't even have to leave your desk.

I do love the ritual, which is why I keep a packet of cheap cigarillos (Erin go Bragh is my current brand) on hand so I can join others for smoke breaks, but I can happily finish half and toss the rest in the ashtray without wasting money. I can get my fix a half a dozen different ways, most without even standing up, but it's nice to be able to join others without having to bum a cancer stick.

 

[Dagoth AMOGUS]

I’ve been thinking about this lately.

So tobacco and tomatoes are both members of new world nightshade family. But has anyone tried to splice these two together to make tomaccos? They would probably taste terrible but nothing ventured nothing gained.

Also here is a funny rat smoking for your viewing pleasures

 

[The Gene Genie]

I have no desire to quit, but I have cut back from cigarettes mostly out of financial responsibility. The price has gone up ridiculously to the point that I feel like it's just trying to extract blood from stone and there's no way that the revenue on it is what it was even five or ten years ago.

This might be a schizopost, but I feel like the social-conditioning of people against tobacco use in America is nothing short of the largest psyop ever conducted on a population. It rivals even the coof. Thirty years ago, everyone smoked. You could smoke inside most places. You'd be hard-pressed to find a bar where you couldn't. And then within that thirty year span, it's basically illegal to smoke anywhere inside unless it's your own home (and even then, it looks like they're coming after it) and tobacco consumption rates are dropping like a stone. I think it's absolutely ridiculous.

I know cigarettes/tobacco consumption is bad for you, but I have to be suspicious about how bad, since the same evil people that have pushed all kinds of nonsense on us are the ones that are pushing this as well.

 

[Tequila Jong]

Always interesting to find a hand rolling enjoyer in the wild. I haven't hand rolled since I last smoked a joint many, many years ago lol. I just discovered snuff, and it's like when I first discovered pipe tobacco--there's this whole world of history, styles, manufacturers, etc. that is very fun to explore. Plus you can get a bit of a buzz from the stronger snuffs, and you don't even have to leave your desk.

Yeah it always surprised me leaving where I was originally from to cities and other countries, and realising smoking straights is the norm. You've made me miss my pipe - I had a long-stemmed wizard pipe I found in a second hand shop that I had for years, until some bastard stole it from a party I was attending. It was fun to pull it out outside a bar and watch peoples faces, but as you say, the varieties etc. of pipe tobacco is like a new world.

I have no desire to quit, but I have cut back from cigarettes mostly out of financial responsibility. The price has gone up ridiculously to the point that I feel like it's just trying to extract blood from stone and there's no way that the revenue on it is what it was even five or ten years ago.

I'm in the same boat, and I imagine there's many others. I had to cut down during 2020 just out of price alone, it was obscene. It's cheaper in the country I'm in now, but the price is still ludicrous and only ever increasing. Much like everything else, I guess, but it feels like people are being priced out of every vice.

 

[Beautiful Border]

I have tried the zoomer pacifier, but even though they can be very strong, they just don't feel the same. Tobacco is loaded with MAOIs that potentiate nicotine and act like a sort of antidepressant, so if you use a form that gives a buzz, like dokha (forgot to mention it in the OP but that's one of my favorites, a rare treat), your buzz has "legs" when it comes with harman, norharman, anabasine, anatabine, and nornicotine. This type of drug is used to treat anxiety, depression, and Parkinson's, among other things.

Maybe? But from what I remember the buzz from tobacco feels the same. In any case my nicotine tolerance is high enough now that I don't really feel a "buzz" anymore, and trying to chase it is foolish. If I smoked a cigarette now I doubt I would feel anything. But I'm fairly confident in saying that nicotine stops being a "fun" drug very quickly if you use it regularly.

I wish I had just to stuck to weed instead, because I'm capable of using that in moderation. Health-wise I can justify to myself smoking a joint once every couple of months, but not smoking multiple cigarettes a day. I'm sure there are people out there who can smoke a cigarette once every couple of months too and not give in to cravings, but that's not me.

 

[Poppavalyim Andropoff]

I quit after decades on the tar. Fuck giving the government 75% per pack.

 

[Cats]

I smoked from a very young age until just recently a year and change ago when I decided to at least try to replace it with the disposable vape. It actually worked immediately, which was extremely surprising to me, and i can't imagine smoking a cigarette anymore which is crazy because of how much a habitual part of my life that was, like drinking or eating. Never once tried to quit or even considered it for 20 years and then one day poof swapped to vape out of the blue and now I maybe pick the thing up once or twice a day if that. I was a pack a day smoker at least.

I have no opinion one way or the other on if ppl decide to quit or not nor would I ever try and convince someone they should do anything other than exactly what they want to but you would be shocked at just how much more cash you have in your pocket once you give up the cigarettes lol

when I smoked I liked marlboro blue 72s. which were a very mild menthol. its is weird bc I hate mint flavor anything but my friend gave me a newport one time when I was a kid and I just got hooked on the extra harsh feeling of the menthol. 72s were great, a little bit shorter than normal cigs (the perfect size for a smoke break I thought). I don't miss them but maybe once in a blue moon when I am stressed.

 

[DankSmoker]

I tried to have a smoke in my sacred spot where all the big brain contemplative shit goes on. Unfortunately I heard something coming from my neighbors,  'chirp' I thought no, it couldn't be. Sure enough it happened again and I began to laugh, as it chimed the third time my bemusement had shifted to dread. Have the niggers taken one of my only forms of respite? If it's still going on tomorrow I'll have lost all hope and solely smoke inside.

 

[oldTireWater]

I've been smoking for 30 years and I honestly don't get the nicotine appeal. I recall getting light-headed after a cigarette for first couple months I smoked, but after that it's just been a habit thing, no buzz or high. If I'm in a situation where I'm accustomed to smoking then I fucking NEED it; if I'm in a situation where I don't smoke then I can go days without even thinking about it.

It's a gross habit, but I don't have any real plans to quit.

 

[ATI Escapee]

I enjoy occassional pipe tobacco. I also like weed a couple times a week, but quit a while ago to pass drug tests for work. I missed weed, so started smoking my pipe a couple times a week instead of once every few weeks. This upset my spouse, and requested I switch to vape at least for health concerns. I did, and I honestly feel more unhealthy now than I did and I vape way more than I ever smoked. Its too convenient and doesnt hit the same way as real tobacco. Plus way more money.

I am working on vaping the last of my vape juice and going back to pipe tobacco. Gonna reserve it for once in a while though to keep the SO happy. Honestly I wish he would stop vaping. He does it constantly from morning to night and has an awful cough. I dont wanna end up like that, lol.

God I miss my pipe.