Trying to find a lost political text.

[The Kommandant]

Hi.

I know this is not the right forum to ask, but who cares.

I'm looking for a pamphlet that was created by the man who gave the order to kill Rosa Luxemburg and another commie which I don't know the name, Waldemar Pabst. The Pamphlet was supposed to be a manifesto for a organization that Waldemar Pabst tried to form, called "White International". In the pamphlet, according to Wikipedia, " [...] he called for the replacement of the values of Liberté, égalité, fraternité with a new European-wide order based on 'a new Trinity: authority, order, justice'"

Why should you care you ask? Because I... Idk. I think it sounds based, imo.

 

[The Kommandant]

I know that it exists because it has been mentioned by other articles and academics.

 

[isalaide]

who gave the order to kill Rosa Luxemburg and another commie which I don't know the name

You know about this pamphlet, but you don't know who Karl Liebknecht is?
That's a strange array of knowledge.

 

[The Kommandant]

You know about this pamphlet, but you don't know who Karl Liebknecht is?

who the fuck is Karl Liebknecht?

 

[Breadbassket]

Can't find a manifesto but maybe Pabst's involvement with the Gesellschaft zum Studium des Faschismus (Society for the Study of Fascism) has to do with it.

 

[The Kommandant]

Can't find a manifesto but maybe Pabst's involvement with the Gesellschaft zum Studium des Faschismus (Society for the Study of Fascism) has to do with it.

Yeah the Manifesto is pretty obscure, if we could have a german kiwi contact Manfred Wichmann and ask him about the Pamphlet, we could have a chance.

Okay, so according to the footnotes in page 3 of this PDF, there is a segment in the book Wegbereiter des Nationalsozialismus : Personen, Organisationen und Netzwerke der extremen Rechten zwischen 1918 und 1933 called Die Konzeption einer “Weißen Internationale” bei Waldemar Pabst,’ if We could find a way to get the book find this segmen, we could find some information about the Manifesto. The segment was written by the same guy who wrote about the Fascist Study Society, Manfred Wichmann.

The segment was written by the same guy who wrote about the Fascist Study Society, Manfred Wichmann.

The Holocaust Memorial Museum has a copy of that same work. It's not digitalized nor translated, though.

gonna look through the website and see what I can find.

Okay, so according to the footnotes in page 3 of this PDF, there is a segment in the book Wegbereiter des Nationalsozialismus : Personen, Organisationen und Netzwerke der extremen Rechten zwischen 1918 und 1933 called Die Konzeption einer “Weißen Internationale” bei Waldemar Pabst,’ if We could find a way to get the book find this segmen, we could find some information about the Manifesto. The segment was written by the same guy who wrote about the Fascist Study Society, Manfred Wichmann.

Couldn't find anything other than the fact that they have the same book in there collection. And again, it's not translated nor is it digitalized. (WTF!)

fucking boomers.

 

[Turkroach Couple]

Please keep larping to a minimum.

 

[Ged!]

This is a good thread.

 

[Fascist Frederick]

Holy shit the rare sextuple post. That might not even be rare, that might be the first time ever. @The Commandant, you're an absolute fucking pioneer of faggotry, keep it up!

 

[FuckMeGentlyWithAChainsaw]

I don't think there was a pamphlet. German Wiki doesn't mention it and English Wiki sources it to some "Women in conflict zones" book that seems irrelevant to the topic.
This site talks about private letters Pabst send to Eugen Bircher:

1931 schrieb Pabst an den «Kamerad Bircher» und unterbreitete dem Oberst seine Pläne einer «Weissen Internationale» (WI). Diese Organisation sollte demnächst, so Pabst zum Aargauer, der «ihnen bekannte Herzog Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha übernehmen, womit wir ja eine Persönlichkeit bekommen, die sowohl im Nationalsozialismus wie im Stahlhelm fest verankert ist.» Pabst wollte Bircher als Chef der Schweizer Freikorps dabeihaben und fragte, ob er und seine Verbände «bei der Sache mitmachen». Bircher antwortete postwendend, doch meinte er, dass seine Bürgerwehren «kaum in der Lage sein werden, hier irgendwie aktiv mitzumachen.» Seine politische Stellung erfordere zudem, «mit äusserster Vorsicht an Verbindungen mit dem Auslande heranzutreten.» Gleichwohl plädierte Bircher für die Weiterführung des Nachrichtenaustauschs mit seinem deutschen Freund. Und «persönlich» sei er an der Weissen Internationale durchaus interessiert.

(shortened) In 1931 Pabst wrote to Bircher about his plans for a "White Internationale" This organization ought to be run by the duke of Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha. Pabst wanted Bircher to lead the swiss Freikorps and bring in his partisan troops. Bircher answered his troops were not ready for something like that and that in his position international relationships must be handled very carefully. Bircher claimed personal interest in a WI and wanted to continue contact with Pabst.

 

[Begemot]

Maybe stop being a racist, sweetie?

 

[I'm Retarded?]

 

[The Skeksis Emperor]

Okay, so according to the footnotes in page 3 of this PDF, there is a segment in the book Wegbereiter des Nationalsozialismus : Personen, Organisationen und Netzwerke der extremen Rechten zwischen 1918 und 1933 called Die Konzeption einer “Weißen Internationale” bei Waldemar Pabst,’ if We could find a way to get the book find this segmen, we could find some information about the Manifesto. The segment was written by the same guy who wrote about the Fascist Study Society, Manfred Wichmann.

That book had an edition released in 2015, get it here if you want to take the chance. Or check https://search.worldcat.org/ for the closest library.

Or you can contact the national archives where Pabst's estate is kept: https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/direktlink/3319d9dc-6733-4f10-8638-54df259252d6/

Probably easiest to contact Wichmann and hide your autism so you don't scare him, though. Academics are used to questions in English, so you could contact him yourself.

Edit: Actually, I think you need this book: Klaus Gietinger, 2009. From the description:

Klaus Gietinger has tracked down numerous previously unpublished documents about Pabst, including in Moscow archives, in state security archives and in Pabst's estate. It documents Pabst's extensive collaboration with the leadership of the SPD, his alliance with the Social Democratic commander-in-chief Noske and his approval of the murder of Luxemburg and Liebknecht.

 

[The Kommandant]

Holy shit the rare sextuple post. That might not even be rare, that might be the first time ever. @The Commandant, you're an absolute fucking pioneer of faggotry, keep it up!

Thanks!

That book had an edition released in 2015, get it here if you want to take the chance. Or check https://search.worldcat.org/ for the closest library.

Or you can contact the national archives where Pabst's estate is kept: https://invenio.bundesarchiv.de/invenio/direktlink/3319d9dc-6733-4f10-8638-54df259252d6/

Probably easiest to contact Wichmann and hide your autism so you don't scare him, though. Academics are used to questions in English, so you could contact him yourself.

Edit: Actually, I think you need this book: Klaus Gietinger, 2009. From the description:

Okay, I'll try and contact him.

I don't think there was a pamphlet. German Wiki doesn't mention it and English Wiki sources it to some "Women in conflict zones" book that seems irrelevant to the topic.
This site talks about private letters Pabst send to Eugen Bircher:

(shortened) In 1931 Pabst wrote to Bircher about his plans for a "White Internationale" This organization ought to be run by the duke of Sachsen-Coburg-Gotha. Pabst wanted Bircher to lead the swiss Freikorps and bring in his partisan troops. Bircher answered his troops were not ready for something like that and that in his position international relationships must be handled very carefully. Bircher claimed personal interest in a WI and wanted to continue contact with Pabst.

Huh, even if the pamphlet doesn't exist you gotta admit that the Values "Authority, Order, Justice" goes hard.