Two brick walls from the Keffals thread attempt to persuade each other

[Fren]

Yeah, come on guys, please... Jesus Christ. Don't hate-mail the hospitals.

That's where the medical experts and the doctors are. That's who SHOULD be handling these decisions, as opposed to back-room bathtub deals.

Nobody in legitimate medical profession is tearing ovaries and testes off of kids.

This type of harassment doesn't help anyone.

Fuck of faggot.
They are mutilating children due to some sort of collective Munchhausen Syndrome. This craze is no different than with the Lobotomy hype. They deserve to get their licenses revoked and cast out of society, just like your ex.

 

[AvocadosConstant]

Fuck of faggot.

it sounds like a pasta dish on a Hong Kong menu

 

[Jeff Gerstmann]

Yeah, come on guys, please... Jesus Christ. Don't hate-mail the hospitals.

That's where the medical experts and the doctors are. That's who SHOULD be handling these decisions, as opposed to back-room bathtub deals.

Nobody in legitimate medical profession is tearing ovaries and testes off of kids.

This type of harassment doesn't help anyone.

You do realize most doctors are pants on head retarded about the trans issue and are just terrified to say anything, right?

If the hospital is getting hate mail it's people like Keffals doing it.

Juries still out on trans issue as a whole too with a lot of Europe really backing off any gender affirming care for young people.

We don't know enough and won't for a long time.

 

[AvocadosConstant]

Juries still out on trans issue as a whole too with a lot of Europe really backing off any gender affirming care for young people.

We don't know enough and won't for a long time.

I can tell you that "trans-affirming care" literally saved my life, and made my life worth living. Others might not accept me as a woman, but the thing is, at the end of the day, we don't care. We just want to live quietly and happy, like anyone.

You should understand that this is also, likely, the primary motivation of the "troons" you so revile.

And while I would never support or advocate taking groups of young people, writ large, and "persuading" them they should be trans or take puberty-blockers, my own experiences are enough to convince me that any person (young or old) who asks for treatment for gender dysphoria, deserves to be seen by a medical professional who will responsibly support them and monitor them.

On this, we may agree or disagree. But that's my position, FWIW.

 

[Catboys the Musical]

And while I would never support or advocate taking groups of young people, writ large, and "persuading" them they should be trans or take puberty-blockers, my own experiences are enough to convince me that any person (young or old) who asks for treatment for gender dysphoria, deserves to be seen by a medical professional who will responsibly support them and monitor them.

How about giving kids therapy instead of suggesting they lop their genitals off?

 

[AvocadosConstant]

How about giving kids therapy instead of suggesting they lop their genitals off?

Therapy is a very important step in the process. As long as it isn't "reparative/conversion therapy." But you need to accept that by the time a person reaches the point of focusing on gender dysphoria, it is what it is.

De-transitioners, while I fully respect their choices, are statistically in the extreme minority.

*Edit* also, I do not, and have never, suggested or advocated minors have genital surgery.

 

[Shelek_boy]

De-transitioners, while I fully respect their choices, are statistically in the extreme minority.

effeminate men and manly women are abominations

 

[AirdropShitposts]

We just want to live quietly and happy, like anyone.

You should understand that this is also, likely, the primary motivation of the "troons" you so revile.

I try but almost always they insist otherwise and begin demanding the imposition of duties on others.

 

[Fren]

How about giving kids therapy instead of suggesting they lop their genitals off?

That wouldn't satisfy the deranged groomers and pedos. Kids need to be put in an "all in" situation or you literally support trans genocide.

 

[AvocadosConstant]

effeminate men and manly women are abominations

Pretend like I put up the Spongebob gif and quoted you in rEspOnSe TeXt case.

I try but almost always they insist otherwise and begin demanding the imposition of duties on others.

YMMV. Why don't you just ignore the bad ones then? Instead of posting a whole forum about it?

 

[Chuck]

Therapy is a very important step in the process. As long as it isn't "reparative/conversion therapy."

"therapy is ok unless it's the kind of therapy i disagree with which just so happens to be best practice in every similar diagnosis to gender dysphoria"

Pretend like I put up the Spongebob gif and quoted you in rEspOnSe TeXt case.

this isn't reddit

how did we end up getting this off topic?

 

[Catboys the Musical]

how did we end up getting this off topic?

Tranny started political sperging, got treated with baby gloves and got into arguments.

Therapy is a very important step in the process. As long as it isn't "reparative/conversion therapy." But you need to accept that by the time a person reaches the point of focusing on gender dysphoria, it is what it is.

"Therapy is a very important step in treating schizophrenia. As long as it isn't trying to treat the schizophrenia. But you need to accept that by the time a person starts hearing/seeing things, it is what it is."

 

[Shelek_boy]

I'd like to think if one wants to stop keffals (or troon-ism in general), this is probably not the best place to discuss doing so

no let him keep going i wanna see where this goes. whats the worst that can happen ? the thread gets locked again..

 

[YumeNoHero]

We just want to live quietly and happy, like anyone.

You should understand that this is also, likely, the primary motivation of the "troons" you so revile.

I have a bit of a problem with this.
First, wanting to live quietly and happy is literally what any and all group of people wanted. Gays, lesbians and bisexuals also said that before the absolute degenerate cesspit of their respective group start to push the acceptable boundary. This is a spiraling issue that should be stopped at certain point yet here we are. None of them actually stand up and say no to degeneracy and you know the rest: the bad apples like Keffals get major backing from mainstream media to get to push all sort of dangerous nonsense to both impressionable kids and retarded adults alike. Even with all the evidence pointing to him being a significant threat to children's health with unregulated DIY HRT, you still refuse to condemn them and their action.
When the group say or do nothing to stop such bad actors, eventually when their insane bitching and moaning gets the spotlight and it casts a negative shadow on your group, most normal people will look at your group and associate the worst traits of these degenerates to each and every single one of you, hence the intensified troon hate in the last few years.

Do the trans community want that? To be represented by such people like Keffals? If you still love them, you should be honest and ask them to stop causing irreversible damage to children before the rest of the world turn on them.

Spoiler: Slight PL if you cared enough to read

My gay brother used to advocate for LGBT rights in the past. When there are LGBT events that have the "degenerate minority" being inappropriate in front of kids and other degenerate acts, he just sorta took note and tip-toe his "criticism" of it but never did anything to stop it from happening again. Now that most people in my community now consider LGBTs as sexual deviants instead of normal people with different sexual interest after several incidents involving minors, he now, and still is, regretted coming out to everyone and advocate for gay rights. Me and my family still accept him for who he is but the rest of community will never look at him like a normal gay person and always assume some form of deviancy hidden underneath. It's fucking torturing and he can't really do anything about it.

 

[What the shit]

I hate trannies but some of you a-log trannies to the point that it’s gotten very annoying.

 

[Gamercat]

you guys are aware that this is a laughing at retards site right?

 

[The Internet Dick]

Therapy is a very important step in the process. As long as it isn't "reparative/conversion therapy." But you need to accept that by the time a person reaches the point of focusing on gender dysphoria, it is what it is.

"It is what it is"? I would argue it isn't in the vast majority of cases. Transitioning to a self-identified gender, to include hormone therapies and drastic, irreversible surgeries, was adopted as standard practice years ago but only after the patient suffering from gender dysphoria underwent intensive, long-term therapy and screening to determine if the patient was genuinely gender dysphoric and not suffering from some other mental illness that made them think they were. Mentally ill people are impressionable, with some suffering (or think they're suffering) from a host of maladies. If a schizophrenic male tells me he's a biological woman, he's still a schizophrenic male. Nothing he says can be trusted as true.

Make no mistake: gender dysphoria is a mental illness, a deep-seated delusion that may or may not be due to an anomalous configuration of the brain. Neurological studies on the phenomenon are still in their comparative infancy. No one is 'wrongly assigned' a gender at birth. No one is nonbinary in fact, only in fantasy. However, if a reasonably sane adult wants to transition to the opposite sex, okay then, pal, have at. You're an adult with free will. I will address you as Ms not because I believe you're a woman, however closely you might resemble one, but because you're another human being deserving of a modicum of decency and common courtesy; that is, unless and until you refuse to grant me the same regard. Live and let live.

 

[SNAFU]

Pretend like I put up the Spongebob gif and quoted you in rEspOnSe TeXt case.


YMMV. Why don't you just ignore the bad ones then? Instead of posting a whole forum about it?

Null stood up for you and this is how you repay him smh

 

[Ishtar]

I can tell you that "trans-affirming care" literally saved my life, and made my life worth living. Others might not accept me as a woman, but the thing is, at the end of the day, we don't care. We just want to live quietly and happy, like anyone.

You should understand that this is also, likely, the primary motivation of the "troons" you so revile.

And while I would never support or advocate taking groups of young people, writ large, and "persuading" them they should be trans or take puberty-blockers, my own experiences are enough to convince me that any person (young or old) who asks for treatment for gender dysphoria, deserves to be seen by a medical professional who will responsibly support them and monitor them.

On this, we may agree or disagree. But that's my position, FWIW.

This is almost definitely a lie. Trannies such as yourself have a deep irrepressible need to see more children troon out.

Beyond that, though. I hate you because you are an abomination. You’re very existence is offensive and obscene. If trannies actually put the effort into passing and kept their mouths shut-then some people here might be more sympathetic. But clearly because of your inherently depraved nature, you can’t even be tolerated.

 

[SPhobos]

effeminate men and manly women are abominations

im getting fucking sick of the rampant anti-tomboy bullshit ruining this site and i hope registration gets closed until it gets sorted out