War U.S. will abandon Ukraine peace push if no progress ‘within a matter of days,’ Rubio says - “If it’s not possible, if we’re so far apart that this is not going to happen, then I think the president is probably at a point where he’s going to say, ‘well, we’re done’.”

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  • Rubio says U.S. needs to decide ‘in a matter of days’
  • Warning comes amid some progress in Ukraine talks
  • Trump had promised to end war on first day in office
U.S. President Donald Trump will walk away from trying to broker a Russia-Ukraine peace deal within days unless there are clear signs that a deal can be done, U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio said on Friday.

“We’re not going to continue with this endeavour for weeks and months on end. So we need to determine very quickly now, and I’m talking about a matter of days, whether or not this is doable in the next few weeks,” Rubio said in Paris after meeting European and Ukrainian leaders.

“If it’s not possible, if we’re so far apart that this is not going to happen, then I think the president is probably at a point where he’s going to say, ‘well, we’re done’.”

There was no immediate comment from Paris, London, Berlin or Kyiv on Rubio’s statement. Three European diplomatic sources told Reuters Rubio’s comments reflected growing frustration in the White House over Russian intransigence to end the war.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said some progress on a peace settlement had already been made but that contacts with Washington were difficult. He said Russia was striving to resolve the conflict while ensuring its own interests. Moscow remained open to dialogue with the United States, he added.

Rubio’s threats came amid signs of some progress in U.S. talks with Ukraine.

Trump said on Thursday he expected to sign a minerals deal with Kyiv next week after an attempt in February fell apart following Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy’s Oval Office clash with Trump and Vice President JD Vance.

The talks in Paris on Thursday were the first substantive, high level and in-person talks on Trump’s peace push that have included European powers. Rubio said a U.S. peace framework he presented received an “encouraging reception.” Zelenskiy’s office called the talks constructive and positive.
It was unclear why Rubio’s tone shifted so dramatically overnight. Still, his comments on Friday underline mounting frustrations in the White House over a lack of progress in pushes to settle a growing list of geopolitical challenges.

Trump promised during his election campaign to end the war in Ukraine within his first 24 hours in the White House. He moderated that claim on taking office, suggesting a deal by April or May as obstacles mounted.

He has pressured both sides to come to the negotiating table, threatening tougher sanctions on Russia or an end to billions of dollars in U.S. military support for Kyiv.

Both Ukraine and Russia showed up for U.S.-brokered talks in Saudi Arabia, which resulted in a partial ceasefire, but nothing more. Meanwhile, the war has continued, including a recent Russian missile attack that hit Sumy in northeastern Ukraine, killing 35 people - an attack Trump called a “mistake”.

If Washington walks away, efforts to broker a peace would likely founder because no other nation is able to bring similar pressure on both Moscow and Kyiv.

Other impacts are unclear. The United States could keep its current policy on the conflict unchanged, maintaining sanctions on Russia and keeping U.S. aid flowing to Kyiv. Alternatively, Trump could decide to halt payments to Ukraine.

Rubio said he spoke with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov after the “constructive” Paris talks and briefed him on “some of the elements of” the U.S. peace framework.

Russian President Vladimir Putin has said he wants Ukraine to drop its ambitions to join NATO, Russia to control the entirety of four Ukrainian regions it has claimed as its own, and the size of the Ukrainian army to be limited. Kyiv says those demands are tantamount to demanding its capitulation.
Rubio said the Europeans had a central role to play in any peace pact, especially as their Russia sanctions over which Washington has no control would likely need to be lifted to secure an accord.

Rubio said the issue of U.S. security guarantees came up in the Paris talks, saying they were an issue “we can fix in a way that’s acceptable to everyone.” But, he cautioned, “we have bigger challenges that we need to figure out.”

He said it was clear that a peace deal would be difficult to strike but there needed to be signs it could be done soon.

“There’s no one saying this can be done in 12 hours. But we want to see how far apart it is,” he said. “We need to figure out here now, within a matter of days, whether this is doable in the short term, because if it’s not, then I think we’re just going to move on.”
 
Yeah this is about what I expected from this admin by now. Between the joke of a deportation response with illegals, cutting federal funding over tranny shit but not sanctuary states, cutting off foreign aid but not actually cutting off foreign aid, DOGE totally ignoring the Pentagon, promising even more mass immigration of violent brown people, and Trump worshipping Jews and Israels at every possible second, it's really not a surprise that they were lying about cutting off Europe from their war funding.

There is no political solution, nothing ever happens, etc. etc.
 
Yeah this is about what I expected from this admin by now. Between the joke of a deportation response with illegals, cutting federal funding over tranny shit but not sanctuary states, cutting off foreign aid but not actually cutting off foreign aid, DOGE totally ignoring the Pentagon, promising even more mass immigration of violent brown people, and Trump worshipping Jews and Israels at every possible second, it's really not a surprise that they were lying about cutting off Europe from their war funding.

There is no political solution, nothing ever happens, etc. etc.
He said he wanted peace, and if the Russians think they can get more out of this war special military operation with the sword than with the pen, that leaves the sword as the only means of attaining it.
 
if the Russians think they can get more out of this war special military operation with the sword than with the pen, that leaves the sword as the only means of attaining it.

Trump is temporary, the deepstate is forever. There is zero reason for Russia to ever consider the pen to be a viable avenue to secure its own interest after the constant western betrayals since the USSR dissolved. The St. Petersburg clique that wanted more integration with the west has been totally defeated in Russia, somehow Putin survived this dismemberment of his original clique, the Moscow clique that sees Russia standing alone from Europe as its own thing and views the West with hostility has asserted control over the country once again and you're not going to convince Russia that it can resolve these outstanding issues with NATO with diplomatic treaties. Russia is not going to give up this war unless its thus far vague objectives are met, Ukraine is going to be pulverized because of NATO ghetto games over the 90s,2ks and early '10s.
 
Where are those who say that Trump is Putin's puppet at moments like this?
Probably in the Ukraine Defensive War thread. They don’t come outside often anymore and mostly just slapfighting over if Trump is a pawn/moron or Ghostse writing another diatribe about how it’s all 5D chess.
 
Trump is temporary, the deepstate is forever. There is zero reason for Russia to ever consider the pen to be a viable avenue to secure its own interest after the constant western betrayals since the USSR dissolved. The St. Petersburg clique that wanted more integration with the west has been totally defeated in Russia, somehow Putin survived this dismemberment of his original clique, the Moscow clique that sees Russia standing alone from Europe as its own thing and views the West with hostility has asserted control over the country once again and you're not going to convince Russia that it can resolve these outstanding issues with NATO with diplomatic treaties. Russia is not going to give up this war unless its thus far vague objectives are met, Ukraine is going to be pulverized because of NATO ghetto games over the 90s,2ks and early '10s.
The thing is his goals are pretty fucking obvious: snatch up as much of Ukraine as he can. Why? Because he can, I guess. It certainly isn't for security reasons since taking the place over will massively expand his border with NATO, on top of it already being expanded by the addition of Finland of a border region (seriously, having American tanks in Poland was already bad enough, now they can be positioned a day or so from Saint Petersburg), and now Saab Bofors in Sweden (and all of Sweden's mineral resources) are part and parcel of the Western military-industrial complex instead of a neutral-but-aligned third-party seller. It can't be to de-Nazify the place since its headed by a Russian-speaking part-Jew and the Azov "neo-Nazis" started off as the private army of a Jewish oligarch. Shit, during the leadup to all this I saw a greentext talking about how Azov was a Jewish plot to kill as many based and trad Russians as possible.
Probably in the Ukraine Defensive War thread. They don’t come outside often anymore and mostly just slapfighting over if Trump is a pawn/moron or Ghostse writing another diatribe about how it’s all 5D chess.
At least Ghostse is honest and prefaces his stuff by saying its a mix of copium/hopium and stuff he's pulled from his ass, unlike the guys with TDS insisting he's throwing Ukraine under the bus because he's the Evil Cheeto Man.
 
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At least Ghostse is honest and prefaces his stuff by saying its a mix of copium/hopium and stuff he's pulled from his ass, unlike the guys with TDS insisting he's throwing Ukraine under the bus because he's the Evil Cheeto Man.
Obviously my viewpoint is kinda skewed by my documented bias against their whole worldview so yeah, my take shouldn’t be seen as totally objective lol.
 
Seems Rubio is playing bad cop to try to get things moving. Zelenskiy will draw out signing any deal to get as much attention as possible. Trump plays the nice guy while Rubio lights a fire under Europe’s ass.
 
sometimes I wish russia was strong and able to take the ukraine in 5 days.

Other days I think about the movie red dawn only its plucky ukraine teens led fighting gorilla sytle
 
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This sounds like Rubio's playing the Bad Cop role in an "always be willing to walk away from the table" negotiation tactic.

Other days I think about the movie red dawn only its plucky ukraine teens led fighting gorilla sytle
All the teens eventually die fighting non-Russian mercs or execute each other for betraying the cause, and ultimately have no measurable effect on the war's outcome?

Yeah, sounds like Ukraine. Except the "teens" would include 50 year old blind men and paraplegics. And instead of Powers Boothe, they've got some American tranny from the CIA telling them to drive tanks straight into a minefield.
 
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