Unschooling - We don't need no education.

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Piga Dgrifm

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Welcome to the world of Unschooling, an 'educational' style that basically boils down to not teaching your children jack shit. Basically, it's homeschooling but without any sort of curriculum, assignments, or schooling. Keep your children at home and allow them to learn everything just from everyday life. That A+ in Watching-Spongebob-ology is sure to get them far in life.

The basics: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unschooling

A popular Unschooling community: http://www.mothering.com/forum/439-unschooling/

A popular guidebook on the subject: https://www.amazon.com/Radical-Unschooling-Revolution-Has-Begun-Revised/dp/1460939980

Why didn't I start depriving my children of an education EARLIER?: http://www.homeschool.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=1326&PID=10992
 
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This is one of those threads I couldn't post in with out everything being horrid a-logs wishing for death by cockroach bites on the parents.

As I mentioned in the other school "system" thread. This kind of idea is picked by people who see flaws in education, and instead of reform or adaption, they just go well it's not perfect throw it out and feel they are high and mighty for such a "wise" idea.

Here's a few other not perfect systems that I bet they don't go with out
Electricity
Modern meds
oh... wait pretty fucking much everything in the world.

It's a weak and uneducated mind set to support these places and flat out child abuse, no if ands or buts.

I legit know people who are horrid sex abuse victims who turned out better than anyone I've met who've been in these "schools" When a late night sneaky uncle is less damaging than your school, your school a shit
 
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Piga Dgrifm said:
Mother wants to know how to get her kid ready for a standardized test: http://www.mothering.com/forum/439-unschooling/1540953-standardized-testing.html
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From the first reply :

3. Nothing says that parents can't coach kids, which especially useful in the early years when kids are mostly learning *how* to take a test and *what* the test is trying to ask

Pour me the tallest glass of everclear, and pour a little bit out for that kid who's life is effectively over already.

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Cheating on Standardized testing can be a CRIMINAL act.
 
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Because their children are their best friends, and they can't stand to see them unhappy.
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And that's the main issue I have with these cows. You're supposed to be a parent, not a bff. That's why you take care of them at home and why they make friends AT SCHOOL.

Wouldn't you want to see your best friend succeed? It's not about what makes them happy. It's about them being able to get a job when they finish their "schooling" and not being a confused mess when it's over. Why purposely hold them back? That just makes you a bad parent and a bad friend.
 
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Mother sends kid to school, is surprised when kid improves, takes all the credit for said improvement : http://www.mothering.com/forum/439-unschooling/1501274-unschooled-kid-school-observations.html

To the surprise of no one, there is overlap amongst unschoolers and other shitty parenting practices. Including anti vaxx shit: http://www.mothering.com/forum/47-vaccinations/

And potty training fresh from the womb:
http://www.mothering.com/forum/227-...51426-help-my-baby-spiteful-toward-me-ec.html
 
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The fact that unschooling is promoted by groups like Amethyst Midwtchery & Womancraft should say a lot, but in case it doesn't it should me mentioned that many of them, if they go on to college, wind up with art/film/theater/writing degrees and are either financially dependent on their parents or are shit poor (Psychology Today article discussing study).

It should also be noted that people who unschool look like this:

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EDIT: They also LARP at conferences
 
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Loxiozzz said:
How the hell do you deny your kids an education knowing that there are children in some parts of the world who would kill to learn how to count 10? All these threads about shit parents are slowly killing me inside.
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You have to be pretty exceptional parents to do that.

Of course, I speak as someone who actually went to school...
 
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Hoo boy I better be careful in thissun, the temptation to A-Log is strong indeed...
While it's obvious that parents are indeed a child's first educational figure and their source of knowledge for the first couple years of their lives, it drives me nuts seeing these parents unable to accept that maybe their children could learn more with the benefit of a trained education worker and a group of peers who will help and support them in their learning. These are the types of parents who say things like "Oh I could be a teacher, how hard can it be, my son can spell 'cat' and he's only four!" not realising that teaching is about more than meeting certain milestones at certain points. It's about teaching social skills, enforcing a hidden curriculum that teaches children to be respectful and kind to others, it's teaching them about the meritocracy of our society by showing that putting time and effort into work will be rewarded in the end, it's learning to work with others without relying on an adults guidance to get a task completed, I could literally go on and on.
If you don't want to put your kid in a public school because you have issues with the way it is run, you think classes are understaffed or that not enough is being done to help your child reach their potential then more power to you. But the second you pull them out of a learning environment and then proceed to not teach them anything they will realistically need to be a well rounded, intelligent and productive member of society then you're handicapping your child and ensuring they will have a harder life in the future.
Sorry for the rant, this topic makes me see red.
 
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Why would anyone trust someone who claims to be a fucking mermaid with the screen name "Dream Mountain Dweller" on an internet forum with advice on how to raise their children?

What else is she going to tell them? Use pyramid power instead of toothpaste for oral hygiene? Your kid doesn't need braces, they need a crystal pendant and a dreamcatcher painted with menstrual blood and sage ash?

Fucking hippies.
 
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So I just read this article on why a parent chooses to 'unschool'
https://zenhabits.net/unschool/

The list of reasons are....fucking stupid. I can only speak for the UK education system because that's what I'm trained in but the gist is this parent believes public education holds back children, not letting them learn at their own pace or challenge themselves. It claims that it puts a divide between 'learning' and 'real life' and that children should learn from everything around them rather than having knowledge passed down to them. All of this is complete bullshit, one of the first things trainee teachers learn is how to spot a childs preferences and likes and to try and find ways to incorporate that into their learning, the idea that every teacher has a set to-do list to follow and nothing can change it whether the child is excelling or not is....gah.
Also I love this line;
When the kids ask a question, that’s an opportunity to find out something. We’ll look it up together, or look for books on it in the library.
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So because you can google something your children are learning better than they would in a classroom where that question could be opened up as a discussion, allowing the opinions and ideas of other children to be considered and giving the child the chance to learn how to seek peer knowledge and share thoughts and opinions. Nah, I'm totally with you, who needs that when you have wiki-fucking-pedia.
 
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I mentioned in the Cecily thread that I came across the Philly Free School doing research on unschooling. A kid in my neighborhood was being unschooled.
Part of his "education" included him wandering around our neighborhood visiting houses. Only two of us had kids. And he started spending hours in a house that rented out rooms to different individuals.
From my interactions with the kid, he thought I was his friend.
Why?
I made him lunch.
And I had to be a good person because I had a baby.

Long and sad story short...his grandparents were given custody.
They had been trying to locate him and when CPS was tipped off to his current situation, it basically made their case.

There is a woman who stalks forums and when any negative talk of unschooling pops up, she joins and totally unloads her crazy.
 
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