Video Backup Replacements For Vidme - Since Vidme is shutting down, here are some alternatives.

[~ Drama Llama Ding Dong ~]

I have noticed that there are a lot of threads where people are asking about alternative video hosting sites to upload backup videos on.

Here are some sites that I think will help.

Veoh - They literally never remove videos from here. I still have videos from like 12 years ago on the site.

Bitchute - Another site like Vidme that will be implementing a similar monetization system soon.

DTube - A video hosting platform run by Steemit.

PewTube - A YouTube clone not run by Google.

Daily Motion - Yeah, no one uses them. But no one really pays attention to what is uploaded either. So that is a plus.

If anyone can think of any other video backup sites, feel free to add them in the replies.

I hope that this helps anyone who is looking for some alternative video hosting platforms.

 

[dunbrine47]

I miss zippcast. /sneed

 

[~ Drama Llama Ding Dong ~]

I miss zippcast. /sneed

Me too.

I also miss Blip TV.

And of course, most recently, Vidme.

 

[Pop-Tart]

Bitchute is honestly one of the better options out there, IMHO. Bitchute does not have servers or such my understanding is, its p2p I think.

 

[Reynard]

Anyone ever notice that whoever challenges YouTube ends up going out of business? Strange isn't it?

 

[Rand /pol/]

Bitchute is honestly one of the better options out there, IMHO. Bitchute does not have servers or such my understanding is, its p2p I think.

From what I know they don't do as much censoring as all the other sites and seem to be more "stable" but as of know most people seem to just use it to Backup/Archive videos.

 

[CIA Nigger]

How has nobody mentioned Streamable yet? It's the perfect fit for something like KF, you can upload videos (below 10 min) without an account and get an embeddable link for KF even. Bitchute sounds like a good idea on paper but I haven't given it a shot.

Never heard of dtube, and PewTube is a big massive target. They got involved in drama a few months back when some internet commies raided them, uploaded crap there, viewbotted their own videos, and then the site went on lockdown and removed them, while the internet commies sat back and said "haa free speech". They also have a reputation like Gab does in the media and if anything happens there you can be sure that they'll be the first to get the Daily Stormer treatment.

Dailymotion and Veoh seem to be stable but I've seen "stable" websites (and tech products in general) go under after buyouts, just look what happened to AIM, GameSpy, and more services.

Anyone ever notice that whoever challenges YouTube ends up going out of business? Strange isn't it?

To be fair it's also because it's a very unsustainable business model. Ad money only goes so far to handle the massive amount of bandwidth and storage needed to host a high quality video site, and the ad pullouts hurt YouTube as well as the uploaders. Furthermore, you have plenty of issues to deal with from copyright issues (which YouTube has been hit with numerous times, and which initially took down Veoh) to the horsepower needed to encode videos. Almost all of YouTube's competitors that have content posted there have mostly 2 things in common: They're owned by major internet companies that can afford to fund a video hosting website, and are popular in markets where YouTube isn't exactly the biggest video site (or in the case of China, banned).

Nobody wants to bother challenging YouTube. Hell, Google even ran another video uploading service at one time, Google Video. It did so poorly that Google said fuck it and just used their money to buy their top competitor.

They're also never going to ever be able to recreate YouTube's initial reason for success: It was initially a place where TV shows and movies got dumped, and nothing attracts the masses like the promise for free TV shows and movies.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Bitchute - Another site like Vidme that will be implementing a similar monetization system soon.

Oh gee, I wonder what the fate of this one will be. It could be anything.

PewTube - A YouTube clone not run by Google.

Oh boy, I wonder if they'll get sued for trespassing on Youtube's trademark.

Bitchute is honestly one of the better options out there, IMHO. Bitchute does not have servers or such my understanding is, its p2p I think.

Oh good, person to person file transfer, I wonder how that could go wrong.

To be fair it's also because it's a very unsustainable business model. Ad money only goes so far to handle the massive amount of bandwidth and storage needed to host a high quality video site, and the ad pullouts hurt YouTube as well as the uploaders.

Video hosting sites that were killed off for this reason, in chronological order: DivX, Blip, Zippcast & VidMe.

Daily Motion - Yeah, no one uses them. But no one really pays attention to what is uploaded either. So that is a plus.

Dailymotion is almost as old as Youtube is. Most reliable option by far.

I don't know what the stipulations are, but Ebaum'sWorld will let you upload videos to them too. They're used even less than Dailymotion and aren't considered trustworthy but it might be worth looking into.

Honestly, the smartest solution at this moment is to just upload these videos to Youtube and keep them unlisted so no one that's not supposed to see it will ever notice. Publish links in a thread made just for archiving purposes and the like.

There's also always the option of just uploading videos to KF itself, Null himself gave his blessings to do this.

I've also heard that you can archive videos straight to the WaybackMachine. Another option is to get the direct video URL from the site hosting the video you want and save it with Archive.is, although whenever I actually try to do this, I get the following error.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

Wheres Vimeo?

 

[~ Drama Llama Ding Dong ~]

Bitchute is honestly one of the better options out there, IMHO. Bitchute does not have servers or such my understanding is, its p2p I think.

I agree. Out of everything listed. I probably like Bitchute the best.

Anyone ever notice that whoever challenges YouTube ends up going out of business? Strange isn't it?

YouTube (and Google) have bought out their competition before, so it really doesn't surprise me.

From what I know they don't do as much censoring as all the other sites and seem to be more "stable" but as of know most people seem to just use it to Backup/Archive videos.

From what I know they don't do as much censoring as all the other sites and seem to be more "stable" but as of know most people seem to just use it to Backup/Archive videos.

Yes, they are a very stable site and people do use it a lot for video backup.

How has nobody mentioned Streamable yet? It's the perfect fit for something like KF, you can upload videos (below 10 min) without an account and get an embeddable link for KF even. Bitchute sounds like a good idea on paper but I haven't given it a shot.

Never heard of dtube, and PewTube is a big massive target. They got involved in drama a few months back when some internet commies raided them, uploaded crap there, viewbotted their own videos, and then the site went on lockdown and removed them, while the internet commies sat back and said "haa free speech". They also have a reputation like Gab does in the media and if anything happens there you can be sure that they'll be the first to get the Daily Stormer treatment.

Dailymotion and Veoh seem to be stable but I've seen "stable" websites (and tech products in general) go under after buyouts, just look what happened to AIM, GameSpy, and more services.


To be fair it's also because it's a very unsustainable business model. Ad money only goes so far to handle the massive amount of bandwidth and storage needed to host a high quality video site, and the ad pullouts hurt YouTube as well as the uploaders. Furthermore, you have plenty of issues to deal with from copyright issues (which YouTube has been hit with numerous times, and which initially took down Veoh) to the horsepower needed to encode videos. Almost all of YouTube's competitors that have content posted there have mostly 2 things in common: They're owned by major internet companies that can afford to fund a video hosting website, and are popular in markets where YouTube isn't exactly the biggest video site (or in the case of China, banned).

Nobody wants to bother challenging YouTube. Hell, Google even ran another video uploading service at one time, Google Video. It did so poorly that Google said fuck it and just used their money to buy their top competitor.

They're also never going to ever be able to recreate YouTube's initial reason for success: It was initially a place where TV shows and movies got dumped, and nothing attracts the masses like the promise for free TV shows and movies.

This is my first time hearing about Streamable. It sounds like an interesting site though. I will definitely check it out! Thank you for the recommendation.

Oh gee, I wonder what the fate of this one will be. It could be anything.



Oh boy, I wonder if they'll get sued for trespassing on Youtube's trademark.



Oh good, person to person file transfer, I wonder how that could go wrong.



Video hosting sites that were killed off for this reason, in chronological order: DivX, Blip, Zippcast & VidMe.



Dailymotion is almost as old as Youtube is. Most reliable option by far.

I don't know what the stipulations are, but Ebaum'sWorld will let you upload videos to them too. They're used even less than Dailymotion and aren't considered trustworthy but it might be worth looking into.

Honestly, the smartest solution at this moment is to just upload these videos to Youtube and keep them unlisted so no one that's not supposed to see it will ever notice. Publish links in a thread made just for archiving purposes and the like.

There's also always the option of just uploading videos to KF itself, Null himself gave his blessings to do this.

I've also heard that you can archive videos straight to the WaybackMachine. Another option is to get the direct video URL from the site hosting the video you want and save it with Archive.is, although whenever I actually try to do this, I get the following error.
View attachment 330472

Sharing unlisted videos on YouTube will work as well.

Wheres Vimeo?

Vimeo is a good option as well. I think you have to pay Vimeo to upload certain things though. Another option is LiveLeak.

 

[Chaos Theorist]

I wonder if Amazon will make a web video hosting service using the Amazon Cloud Front or Twitch will allow direct video uploads alongside streaming.

 

[~ Drama Llama Ding Dong ~]

I wonder if Amazon will make a web video hosting service using the Amazon Cloud Front or Twitch will allow direct video uploads alongside streaming.

I think that both of those ideas are great! The Amazon idea seems like more of a long-term solution though, seeing as they already make a profit from the things they sell and have a cloud system in place for video hosting.

 

[Pop-Tart]

Anyone ever notice that whoever challenges YouTube ends up going out of business? Strange isn't it?

Say what you will about google and I have no doubt there is a lot of shady shit they do behind the scenes. But a large chunk of the issue is that hosting video shit is just super fucking infrastructure and server heavy. My understanding is at times they even have issue with it, no imagine that for a start up who knows fuck all.

There is a good article on it by the people from vid.me if you want

https://medium.com/vidme/goodbye-for-now-120b40becafa

https://archive.fo/7NmOc

 

[~ Drama Llama Ding Dong ~]

Say what you will about google and I have no doubt there is a lot of shady shit they do behind the scenes. But a large chunk of the issue is that hosting video shit is just super fucking infrastructure and server heavy. My understanding is at times they even have issue with it, no imagine that for a start up who knows fuck all.

There is a good article on it by the people from vid.me if you want

https://medium.com/vidme/goodbye-for-now-120b40becafa

https://archive.fo/7NmOc

The thing that a lot of people don't realize about video hosting is that owning a video hosting platform is literally like pouring money, time, and effort into a bottomless hole; you are never going to get that stuff back. This is why many video hosting sites end up going under after a short time of being open. You almost have to have an established company that is already making money (similar to Amazon, Google, or others) that can operate to help fund that bottomless hole. There is a reason why YouTube is not a very lucrative Google investment. It is also the reason why Google keeps trying to desperately find ways to have YouTube earn them money, with little success.

 

[Pop-Tart]

Yes, they are a very stable site and people do use it a lot for video backup.

This is also a key issue I have noticed with many video sites. On vid.me there were a bunch of creators just circle jerking content, and no actual viewer base. I have noticed a similar issue with bitchute, its much more politics based circle jerk wise. The issue with that is there is nothing else content wise, and you need that for a platform to grow. But if its such a political circle jerk regular average joe people may not wanna associate with it, and with many other sites they cannot afford this.

The strength of bitchute is that p2p nature which means it can afford this stagnant period, and such. At least based off my limited understanding.

 

[~ Drama Llama Ding Dong ~]

This is also a key issue I have noticed with many video sites. On vid.me there were a bunch of creators just circle jerking content, and no actual viewer base. I have noticed a similar issue with bitchute, its much more politics based circle jerk wise. The issue with that is there is nothing else content wise, and you need that for a platform to grow. But if its such a political circle jerk regular average joe people may not wanna associate with it, and with many other sites they cannot afford this.

The strength of bitchute is that p2p nature which means it can afford this stagnant period, and such. At least based off my limited understanding.

Bitchute just needs more good press. If it has more press, marketing as a pro free speech platform for everyone, then it has the potential of being a good alternative to YouTube. One of the downfalls of Vidme is that it didn't have much press and most of the press it got was negative (similar to how Gab has become known as an alt-right website due to its bad press). The same problem happened with Voat. Voat had the potential of being a good alternative to Reddit. But it ruined that by opening itself up to bad press and getting overrun by trolls. Hopefully Bitchute will have better luck.

 

[Pop-Tart]

Bitchute just needs more good press. If it has more press, marketing as a pro free speech platform for everyone, then it has the potential of being a good alternative to YouTube. One of the downfalls of Vidme is that it didn't have much press and most of the press it got was negative (similar to how Gab has become known as an alt-right website due to its bad press). The same problem happened with Voat. Voat had the potential of being a good alternative to Reddit. But it ruined that by opening itself up to bad press and getting overrun by trolls. Hopefully Bitchute will have better luck.

Some people have accused youtube of fucking over its competition, and I mentioned they do shady things. If there is anything that a big company would sabotage it would be this. They would no doubt have tech sites write about how bitchute is literal Hitler tier. I mean many have argued all the "discord is a tool of the alt right" (literally everyone uses discord because it isn't skype tier shit) articles were from a lot of people suspected to be useful idiots for Microsoft.

 

[~ Drama Llama Ding Dong ~]

Some people have accused youtube of fucking over its competition, and I mentioned they do shady things. If there is anything that a big company would sabotage it would be this. They would no doubt have tech sites write about how bitchute is literal Hitler tier. I mean many have argued all the "discord is a tool of the alt right" (literally everyone uses discord because it isn't skype tier shit) articles were from a lot of people suspected to be useful idiots for Microsoft, to shit on it PR wise.

Yeah, I have heard a lot of bad press about Discord. Fortunately, it kind of had its foot in the door before all of the bad press. Pretty much everyone uses it these days. That is the trick. The new platforms have to get enough press where a lot of people are using their products before any kind of bad press comes out about them. Discord somehow managed to pull it off. Maybe other sites can learn something from their marketing strategy.