Watching Matrix IV: Resurrection

[The Un-Clit]

*read before you negrate and move on: I know there is a 'speculation' thread about this movie already. This is my thread based on having actually WATCHED the fucking thing. I hope replies will be based on the same, not on what grainy segments you saw on JewTube from someone's webcam copy.*

First 10 mins I was very unsure: Looks like the typical reboot with new people taking over old roles while being 'clever' and a bit precious about itself.

Second 10 mins I was chuckling with all the whole 4th wall breaking, entertained but still slightly unsure.

Third 10 mins I was 'yep. Welcome back to the Matrix. Fuckin AY!!'.


Watch this space for further comments as I watch, and/or maybe just a summary at the end. I will try to leave off major spoilers for those that want to see it clean.



At the 48:40 mark, there is a woman with 'matrix code' streaming down her coof-mask. I would fucking LOVE one of those super-flexible LCD screens on a mask like that, but I bet it costs the fuckin' bank to make one. Too bad.

New Agent Smith is just NOT Hugo Weaving. Movie needed some Hugo Weaving. New Morpheus was damn cool tho. Too bad Lawrence Fishburne aged out of the role, but the new guy kills it.

Spoiler

The Merovingian was SOME fucking PISSED! But who could blame him? Neo and Co. outwitting him not once but twice in a row must have been absolutely ego-melting in the concept of the Matrix. And then THIS happens to the now homeless former billionaire information baron of the Matrix.

Carrie-Ann Moss is a goddamn vampire. She's as bad as Tom Cruise for movies starring either one of these two as a lead or assistant lead. She must be a vampire or SOMETHING keeps her looking young and moving like a goddamn 30 year old woman instead of closer to 55.


Over half-way through, and mostly enjoying it. Some critics think the second part slows the movie to a crawl and pulls them out of it. I disagree fully. Unlike the similar 'meet the people and learn from your mistakes' segment in Evangelion 3.0+1.0, the story never bogs down into too much philosophy and wangst.

Okay, the end was a big fucking letdown. And you just KNOW The Wachowski Troons had a GIGANTIC say in that ending that I will not spoil here. Fucking hell. they just HAD to push "THE MESSAGE" in their fucking movie didn't they? Instantly making it a product of the New Twenties instead of a proper extension of The Matrix, and just to drive it home, the credits themesong is a cover of the original movie's credit's theme, except sung/rapped by a woman. ()

Sigh. Overall, it'd say it was decent. #3 after Matrix and Matrix Reloaded, not near as bad as Revelations. Not terrible, but far from great and slightly disappointing.


What about you nerds? Seen it yet? TPB has some good quality webrips if you don't have a private tracker or otherwise don't choose to pay for it. And I would NOT pay for it.

 

[JULAY]

Nothing the Wachowski troons have done has been worth a shit after the first Matrix. So I won't be wasting my time by either pirating it or watching it. If I want to see a movie done by a shitty director who has been coasting for 20+ years off their first hit film, I'll go watch something by M. Night Shyamalamadingdong.

 

[MrTroll]

I'd maybe watch it if it was under 2 hours, just so I could say that I soldiered through all 4 of these movies, but 2 and a half, forget it. I watched both of the Matrix sequels in the last year or so and I can't remember a single plot point, supporting character, or interesting set piece. When one of the Resurrection reviews mentioned that Neo and Trinity died in the third one, I had to double check the plot description on Wikipedia, such was my lack of engagement in a movie I had watched not that long ago.

The problem with the Matrix is that it has absolutely nothing going for it apart from its basic premise, and Laurence Fishburne's deep-voiced kung fu nigger antics. And the new one doesn't even have that.

 

[libRT]

Jesus, were you even watching during the first 10 mins? theres a part where the main character is facing agents with automatic rifles a few meters away, one give the order to kill her and she rolls AWAY from them, not to the side, they fire a good 10-15 shots and none of them hit.

They try to give a sense of suspense with one of them saying they are being traced and need to speed up but as I didn't know what was going on, didn't get a sense of urgency from it.

FFS why did they have to give her danger hair? I'm guessing around the 20min mark she'll announce that shes non-binary probably in an offended but its okay because i'm a paragon of virtue way.

Spoiler

The rogue agent decides to go rogue just because? 'yet, here we are. here we are' fuck off. Nevermind he saw matrix code in the mirror that turned him into morpheus. rofl

Okay I watched it all. Its not all bad, but it is just another cheap reboot. Surprised me they had the balls to make the jokes about shitty reboots whilst significant parts of that movie literally rode the previous movies.
Constant cheap quips and quotes trying to be cool but removes any aspect of immersion or danger. There are scenes where they try to build it but it gets wrecked not long after
Most of the new characters are as one dimensional as you'd expect from a reboot. None are memorable, and I was kinda rooting that at least some of them would get shot. Nope they all survived. Pretty much the entire team ended up dying in the first movie. You know because in that world there is actual danger. As opposed to getting ambushed several times by gunmen but no one dying.
I agree the new smith isn't smith, not just the actor but the character, why they chose such a drastic change is beyond me.

Spoiler

The new morpheus is fine, as its not morpheus so the change somewhat fits. but why does he need to climb? can't his little magnets just fly up the building? They can fly around individually when assembling/disassembling or when he needs to get into a pipe but when theres a building to scale it doesn't work?
Then theres the whole 'the one' is now 'the two' with no real explanation whatsoever, it would make more sense if it was neo/smith rather than neo/trinity, as neo/smith is more yin/yang with respect to the matrix. where as trinities only real claim in the series is that she banged the one.

Don't get me started on Niobe, Neo should have thrown that bitch off a cliff, Flipping her shit and chastising the captain (forget her name) for retrieving neo/trinity but then flipping her shit at the oracles replacement (she isn't the oracle, but she is basically her replacement) when she reveals that she knew that neo and trinity were alive all along. She convieniently forgot the importance of the safety of IO to throw a little spat about how important her friends are. the same friends she couldn't spare a rag tag team and a ship to look for, and rather than excitement on their return, she tells the captain that she should have been left to the sentinels, and couldn't give two shits about either neo or trinity.

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I think the biggest disappointment to me was that the ideas in the story weren't all bad and that it could have had the excitement and anticipation that the first matrix movie had. If it was done right.

Overall it felt like a cheap superhero movie. I doubt I'll watch the rest, I hope I'm wrong and this trilogy takes an opposite turn to the other trilogy but I don't bet on winning the lottery

 

[MediocreMilt]

This is my husband, Chad.

It had to go off. I almost choked to death fucking laughing.

It didn't help that the opening was a literal blue-haired girl-with-a-boy-body as protagonist.

I may resume later. The bad decisions that went into this are pretty astounding.

 

[The Un-Clit]

Jesus, were you even watching during the first 10 mins? theres a part where the main character is facing agents with automatic rifles a few meters away, one give the order to kill her and she rolls AWAY from them, not to the side, they fire a good 10-15 shots and none of them hit.

Yep. That was pretty goddamn eye-rolling. Thus the first 10 mins or so kinda had me worried.

Trinity to Neo said:
This is my husband, Chad.

Yep. The first part that really had me chuckling. For extra lulz, the guy playing "Chad" is actually named CHAD. Chad Stahelski.

The parts where they skewer the 'creative' process for movies and video games had me grinning and occasionally laughing out loud. You have to admit that the writers and producers of this movie were at the very least able to laugh at themselves, and they get props for that alone no matter how badly they shitballed the end of the film.

 

[frozenrunner]

I loved the script, liked the movie despite its flaws. The negative backlash is understandable but way overstated...

 

[ProfessorCuckulus]

i laughed the whole way threw. best comedy of the year. who knew taking old people's medication to grow tits would cause brain rot on this scale. lol

 

[Everybody]

I've been trying to watch this a couple of times but ended up getting too distracted to actually focus on the movie as it wasn't intriguing or interesting at all. Anyways, I was able to sit through it yesterday and I have some notes:

It was pretty noticeable how bad Keanu Reeves is at acting, in the first movies it didn't matter too much that he looked stiff and confused as it blended in with the story but this time he just seemed forced.
It's like that time when we all noticed that Johnny Depp got stuck in his Jack Sparrow persona and couldn't get out of it.
Neo and Trinity used to be cool, now they felt like bad fanfiction characters more than anything.

Blue haired, tech savvy Asian lady is so cliché. Wasn't this movie supposed to be woke or something? I didn't really get how it was supposed to be a trans allegory, it seems pretty far fetched.

Most of the movie was pretty much reliving the same old moments from before, if we wanted to see the old scenes we coulda just watched the old movies.
Although when iconic movies are being remade you always end up with the most polished milktoast version that they can think of. There is just no way anyone would have let someone be experimental with it and make it about something that would actually be meaningful to people the way the first movies were.
I think we all knew that the expectations automatically disqualified the movie before it was even made.