Welding General Thread - A general guide on turning hot steel into trucks, trains, and airplanes as well as posting your own welds.

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Part 1: The Beginning
It seems like quite a few of you from a Q&A I did were interested in welding, so here we go. This shall be split into parts, as there's a lot of shit to go thru.

So what is welding? Where did it come from? Why are we here? I can't answer that last one but I can the first two. Welding in its simplest form, is the fusion of metal. There are many different forms, and many auxiliaries that go into the process, but just for welding at its most basic, we have MIG, Stick, TIG, and Flux-Core, along with Oxy Acetylene cutting and plasma cutting as a nessicary part of the process.

Now where did we start? Late 1800's with the invention of the oxy acetylene torch and the harnessing of electricity. And soon came Carbon Arc welding, later turning into carbon arc cutting.
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Originally it was used for welding but... it was shit. Dumped way too much carbon into the steel. Later it was adapted into a cutting tool with the addition of compressed air, able to remove welds. Also used in giant street lamps for a time.

Next came Stick, basically a rod coated with a Flux coating meant to keep airborne contaminates out. Now this worked, and is still used to this day, and first major application was WW1.
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But stick is dirty, hard to use, and slow. It can work in all positions, but a evolution was needed. Meet MIG. The wire gun you're probably somewhat acquainted with. Much less of a skill ceiling and greater speed, uses gas to keep out contaminates, it's basically a glue gun, but at the cost of deposition rate and some strength compared to stick.Nevertheless, WW2 put it to use, most notably on the Sherman tank. This is also when rivets started dying.
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Next is TIG which came around about at the same time. Uses a tungsten electrode to focus electricity onto a small point and is notably used on Aluminum, Stainless Steel, even things like Titanium. It is the Mac to the PC in the welding world. Strong as stick, can weld pipe, but requires high skill.
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Finally for the main welding processes on this timeline, we have Flux-Core. Combine the wire feed system with the deep penetration and deposition rate of stick, along with the unique option to use gas, and you get Flux-Core, the newest kid on the block. It has slag like Stick, but it's much easier to pound off. It's gearing up to replace stick in the next few decades.
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So this is the bare basics on where welding came from and the processes. I'll be posting updates as we go along, but feel free to post your welds, takes, questions, whatever. Until then thanks for reading!
 

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Grinding and paint make me the welder I ain't.
Paint ain't fun to weld on lol. A good grinder, even just a 4 1/2 inch one and a wire wheel will strip that off lickety split. Grinders start off cheap with the corded models and then get more expensive as you get into the battery powered ones.
 
Paint ain't fun to weld on lol. A good grinder, even just a 4 1/2 inch one and a wire wheel will strip that off lickety split. Grinders start off cheap with the corded models and then get more expensive as you get into the battery powered ones.
I meant you can cover a shitty weld by grinding it smooth and covering with paint...
 
I meant you can cover a shitty weld by grinding it smooth and covering with paint...
Well that is very true, I guess I misunderstood. Having a grinder is practically a necessity, it's much easier and more accessible than a carbon arc cutter, and a battery powered one is easily carried to a job site. Personally I have a Milwaukee.
 
I've been doing some stick welding recently, and while the welds look like shit, they are strong, and it's pretty easy to get going. Doubt I'll ever get the chance to weld MIG or TIG, but I'm silently hoping.
A lot of small machines are multi machines, yours might have the capability. Stick is difficult to get started with, but once you do it works pretty good, and you can do all positions. Practice with 6010 for a while, then 7018 when you feel confident, just make sure to keep 7018 dry.

These two are starter mig machines of differing quality. The green one is harbor freight, less than 1000 ( and there are cheaper) and then you have a Lincoln, 2000 and pretty well built for its size. Both are "hobby" grade, don't leave them on over night.
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Fun fact, I did design/detail work for like 2 years before I knew what the fuck weld symbols meant. I just copied from other stuff and worked with design software that spit out usable sketches.

90% of my design career has been E70xx fillet welds.

In all seriousness, I would recommend mechanical and civil structural engineers familiarize themselves with the practicalities of welding and fabrication though. It builds a lot of goodwill with a client when you don’t have to go back and forth about constructibility. Welders like it when they don’t have to tell engineers they don’t like welding above their heads, or they can’t actually reach a field weld location with their equipment, or when you make a weld a little longer so that the root is small enough for a single pass.

We try to make things shop weldable if possible, and that goes a long way too.
 
yeah

Makes sense! For some reason I haven't tried that...
I'll add, if you're new to any kind of welding and having trouble with the fine motor control of striking and running a clean bead, use your off hand as a guide.
Specific to striking the arc, use the first two fingers of that hand to lightly pinch, direct and control the motion, (have the palm of that hand facing away from the arc) then once the arc is established, use the back of that hand as a brace while your other hand controls movement/angle etc. It will eliminate a lot of the exaggerated jittering a one handed technique will produce at the end of the stick while you're developing better motor control and muscle memory.
 
I am messing around with tig brazing super thin stainless and am having issues getting the silicon bronze to stick, seems super hit and miss. It might be related to cleanliness since I am testing on scrap, anyone have experience with this? My normal wire brush cleaning job doesn't seem to be cutting it.

Target project might just be welded but the metal is 0.3mm stainless sheet so I figured I would give it a whirl.
 
Here's a thing I made recently.
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Not the truck, but the bumper/skid plate. Sorry for the lack of jpg but I wasn't planning on posting this anywhere and I had to heavily crop it. I could post pics of trucks that I welded together, but that would get too doxy.
That's really fucking good man, looks clean as hell, nice powder coat job too :)
I am messing around with tig brazing super thin stainless and am having issues getting the silicon bronze to stick, seems super hit and miss. It might be related to cleanliness since I am testing on scrap, anyone have experience with this? My normal wire brush cleaning job doesn't seem to be cutting it.

Target project might just be welded but the metal is 0.3mm stainless sheet so I figured I would give it a whirl.
With stainless you always have to be careful not to cook the chromium out of it. If you were just welding, I'd say to increase your travel speed, but for brazing... direct the heat towards where you want it to go, and as for brushes, make sure it's either brass or stainless, NEVER use a steel brush on stainless. Harbor Freight can hook you up on that.
 
I am messing around with tig brazing super thin stainless and am having issues getting the silicon bronze to stick, seems super hit and miss. It might be related to cleanliness since I am testing on scrap, anyone have experience with this? My normal wire brush cleaning job doesn't seem to be cutting it.

Target project might just be welded but the metal is 0.3mm stainless sheet so I figured I would give it a whirl.
I'm guessing the melting point difference between the silicon bronze filler and the stainless crossed with the really low amperage ( 25 ish amps?) is preventing surface fusion with the base material from occurring?
 
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