Wendigoon Thread

[RandallBoggs]

Preaching to the choir here but fucking hell I hate nosleep so much. What a retarded concept.
I wouldn’t have a problem with it if people actually utilized the medium well, but 99% of stories there are clearly written in the proper format of a novel and only have tweaks made to them so they can fit the nosleep rules, like throwing some line at the end that says “I am now sitting in a library in bumfuck nowhere Kansas writing this, the killer is probably still looking for me.”
Nosleep stories never read like normal first hand account Reddit posts. Isn’t that supposed to be the whole point? How am I supposed to be immersed and pretend a story is real when it’s written like a high school literature class essay?
It also particularly cracks me up when the author does the whole “I can’t remember the whole thing word for word so I’ll paraphrase,” and immediately proceeds to write out an entire multi person conversation with proper intonations and the like. It’s another one of those nosleep-isms I mentioned where the story is clearly just written like a normal piece of fiction with tacked on anecdotes whenever the writer remembers “oh yeah, I need to make this sound like someone posting their true story on Reddit.”

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Preaching to the choir here but fucking hell I hate nosleep so much. What a retarded concept.
I wouldn’t have a problem with it if people actually utilized the medium well, but 99% of stories there are clearly written in the proper format of a novel and only have tweaks made to them so they can fit the nosleep rules, like throwing some line at the end that says “I am now sitting in a library in bumfuck nowhere Kansas writing this, the killer is probably still looking for me.”
Nosleep stories never read like normal first hand account Reddit posts. Isn’t that supposed to be the whole point? How am I supposed to be immersed and pretend a story is real when it’s written like a high school literature class essay?
It also particularly cracks me up when the author does the whole “I can’t remember the whole thing word for word so I’ll paraphrase,” and immediately proceeds to write out an entire multi person conversation with proper intonations and the like. It’s another one of those nosleep-isms I mentioned where the story is clearly just written like a normal piece of fiction with tacked on anecdotes whenever the writer remembers “oh yeah, I need to make this sound like someone posting their true story on Reddit.”

The whole real story angle is self damaging to a horror story, either:
1. Everything interesting happens to another party, blunting the effect.
2. The writer is either on the verge of dying, transformed, replaced or in a nuthouse.
3. Unreliable story.

Monty Python laughed on this trope decades ago:

 

[AngryAboutInternets]

Nosleep stories never read like normal first hand account Reddit posts. Isn’t that supposed to be the whole point? How am I supposed to be immersed and pretend a story is real when it’s written like a high school literature class essay?

Yeah, you used to be able to find decent "firsthand account" style stories on /x/ and shit but after creepypasta got popular the genre and most of the outlets were infested by low-tier novelist wannabe retards. Reddit is particularly bad because:

• You can't say anything even remotely non-PC unless the non-PC part is "the horror", but you can bet your ass most people who get spooked said some vulgar shit or acted, you know, like a human who wasn't worried about how it would come off in a reddit post.
• The level of traffic means that there's a realistic chance someone wants to give you money for your story or publish it so it's best if it's in a format friendly to that.
• You're not allowed to tell someone "fuck off this isn't real" or "bro you're just ripping off <X story>" because it's mean and might discourage someone.
• The reddit audience are fucking morons and don't have the level of overall literacy, let alone media literacy, to even notice the issue you're talking about.

Really, the worst part is that people these days seem to think that "really good for nosleep" means "really good story" and not the equivalent of "did very well at the little league game but for writing".

The whole real story angle is self damaging to a horror story

This is sort of true, but it's not a huge limitation if you aren't trying to be Stephen King. It just means you have to restrict yourself to events that don't kill you, mutate you supernaturally, or whatever else. But, you know, those stories don't get as many clicks as shit where the author isn't even trying to pretend it's real.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

This is sort of true, but it's not a huge limitation if you aren't trying to be Stephen King. It just means you have to restrict yourself to events that don't kill you, mutate you supernaturally, or whatever else. But, you know, those stories don't get as many clicks as shit where the author isn't even trying to pretend it's real.

You can do really good stories of experiencing horror if your main character is a person who does something interesting with his life. Unfortunately the writers are Redditors who's biggest travel in life is going between one hive to another, or visiting Disneyland, and biggest trouble in life is being unpopular in highschool. Also not everything needs a damn climax.

An example of doing it well is the manga Ura Baito: Toubou Kinshi with a pair of women doing part time jobs that are tied to the occult.

 

[I've Seen Some More Shit]

Yeah, you used to be able to find decent "firsthand account" style stories on /x/ and shit but after creepypasta got popular the genre and most of the outlets were infested by low-tier novelist wannabe retards

Horror writing worked on /x/ specifically because it was an anonymous imageboard that was very rules-lite. There was no vetting system of posters like karma or post history (Especially back during /x/'s golden age where the only archival methods were screencaps and the vote-based archival system of the original 4chanarchive). Upvotes do not exist on 4chan, the only survival of a thread is the active posting in it and it is limited. This means anything could be posted at no collateral.
With no collateral, and what the writer perceives as true anonymity, you get very honest language - even for made-up stories, they're typically worded honestly. Weird stories and fake rituals and bullshit conspiracy theories back then were formatted in this intentional grey zone between fact and fiction where your imagination gets to go wild with the limited, lowbrow prose available. The majority you would read would be random posts and OPs with no more curation than someone found it funny enough to screencap or sheer luck and timing which made encountering them all the more intimate. They were better than believable, they made you want to believe.

r/NoSleep is antithetical to this. There's so many rules and requirements that are strictly maintained to try and emulate the fast-and-loose traditions of /x/'s indirect traditions. They explicitly say it's only real on that subreddit and to pretend like it's real. It has posting histories available meaning we can see the writers' history of indulging in piss porn and local political debate, or the writer may engage in some kind of wrongthink that results in their potentially quality work being smothered. It has upvotes meaning the posts are curated by mass consensus - and sure, that can lead to quality occasionally, but the turn of phrase goes "Try eating shit, a billion flies can't be wrong." It's inorganic. You can't find a true blue "Idiot encounters aliens" story in a place where everyone pretends they're too smart to act stupid.

 

[The Bogwater Rises]

Late and gay here, but Borrasca V is starting off weak already. The guys are like "I'm so in" and I'm already rolling my eyes lmao. If this is the start wherei it's at it's "High Point" I eagerly await how silly it gets.

 

[AngryAboutInternets]

Late and gay here, but Borrasca V is starting off weak already

Oh you are in for a fucking treat if you don't know where that shit is going, bud.

Spoiler

Honestly I thought Borrasca was weak even before V. Way too many plot holes and way too much shit that makes no sense. It was obvious to me that it wasn't planned out at all. Ironically, V was probably the most fun I had with the story, though not for any good reason.

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Late and gay here, but Borrasca V is starting off weak already. The guys are like "I'm so in" and I'm already rolling my eyes lmao. If this is the start wherei it's at it's "High Point" I eagerly await how silly it gets.

The ep is kino

 

[The Bogwater Rises]

Okay like after half the story we're picking up baybee, holy shit the dialogue is going from god awful annoying to campy insanity. Thank GOD for this.

Edit: I have a basic idea where it ends up going, but was hoping I could survive this god awful dialogue to get to anything fun. I'm glad I've made it.

 

[The Bogwater Rises]

Borrasca Part V is what I expect from every single piece written by that author. It has all her signature hallmarks. Anyone who defends her as anything more than a schlock writer is coping so hard. Maybe she had talent when she wrote the first parts of Borrasca, but now I'm positive that wasw all just some weird fetish thing for her.

However, part V was peak. Dialogue started annoying awful and then trascended into stellar.

Did not watch the 15+ minute copeathon the lads had over the story. I got everything I needed.

 

[AngryAboutInternets]

Pure, absolute, unfiltered kino.
Truly the most r/nosleep story of all time.

 

[Crocodylus Acutus]

Oh you are in for a fucking treat if you don't know where that shit is going, bud.

Spoiler

Honestly I thought Borrasca was weak even before V. Way too many plot holes and way too much shit that makes no sense. It was obvious to me that it wasn't planned out at all. Ironically, V was probably the most fun I had with the story, though not for any good reason.

I will die on my hill that Borrasca sucked, and judging by the other story that the guys covered from the Borrasca author, she should probably just stop writing horror fiction.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

Nosleep stories never read like normal first hand account Reddit posts. Isn’t that supposed to be the whole point? How am I supposed to be immersed and pretend a story is real when it’s written like a high school literature class essay?
It also particularly cracks me up when the author does the whole “I can’t remember the whole thing word for word so I’ll paraphrase,” and immediately proceeds to write out an entire multi person conversation with proper intonations and the like.

I get the impresson that the point of r/nosleep is something else entirely. The reason why so many stories are just novels with thin veneer of autobiographical eliments is because... they are actual novels. Becoming a published writer as a nobody is insanely difficult, so what I think is going on. After getting rejected by publishers authors will edit their already written stories to fit with r/nosleep's rules and publish them there because it is one of the most popular horror story subreddits out there. Once the story gets popular they can go back to the publishers and say "look at these metrics, people like what I write, please publish my books" and boom, they got a book deal. It is why when Wendi and Meat read a popular story they always shill the physical book that got made after the story got popular.

r/NoSleep is antithetical to this. There's so many rules and requirements that are strictly maintained to try and emulate the fast-and-loose traditions of /x/'s indirect traditions. They explicitly say it's only real on that subreddit and to pretend like it's real. It has posting histories available meaning we can see the writers' history of indulging in piss porn and local political debate, or the writer may engage in some kind of wrongthink that results in their potentially quality work being smothered. It has upvotes meaning the posts are curated by mass consensus - and sure, that can lead to quality occasionally, but the turn of phrase goes "Try eating shit, a billion flies can't be wrong." It's inorganic. You can't find a true blue "Idiot encounters aliens" story in a place where everyone pretends they're too smart to act stupid.

The lack of anonymity and the upvotes is precisely why reddit works as a writer farm. no sleep writers are try hards, because they are trying really hard to get their shit published and make a name for themselves. They need their name on their work and a way to mesure readers reaponse and engagement which votes and comments makes it really easy to do and show to publishers. You can't really use 4chan for this scheme because there is no way to prove that you made the post and there isn't an easy numerical value to judge how many readers read the post and if they liked it. Hence why /x/ was just cute little ghost stories and r/nosleep is trying to be Steven King with forced plot contrivances to bridge the gap between the story and reddit.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Watched the new Wendigang video:

Not really was tuned into the story when it popped up since 90% of the comments were "Muh Jews". The tldw is:
> California allowed raising of crops that need massive amount of water.
> California sold ownership of water resources to private companies.
> California did not do anything to curb wildfires.
> California mismanaged the water use use prior and during the wildfire.
> It's capitalism fault!

The main argument is that during the fires, California could have used more water to combat the fires, but has been blocked by The Wonderful Company Dick Dastardly style, which, at least in the video, has no evidence and is pure conjecture, since it might as well just as been pure inefficiency and stupidity.

Can it be the case? Sure. But the people in charge of California are such fuckups that they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt, especially when the accusations seem to whitewash them of guilt to blame easier targets for modern day Dems.

I'm not even going to go into the "Iran sanctions because pistachios" bit. The episodes really devolved fast into This is your brain on Reddit slop.

It's back.

Having never played the games, the videos make me feel I missed out. The stigma against Modern Warfare was strong a decade ago, and sadly I believed it and took the series as dumb mindless shooter without any real merit in it.

 

[FILTH Tourist]

The episodes really devolved fast into This is your brain on Reddit slop.

I am sensing a theme with the new videos. Wendi really missed out on hiring me as a researcher, I got all sorts of wild shit on deck ready to go. At the very least, I can find stories that aren't on the front page of Reddit.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Having never played the games, the videos make me feel I missed out. The stigma against Modern Warfare was strong a decade ago, and sadly I believed it and took the series as dumb mindless shooter without any real merit in it.

Same, and this is what Wendi does well: he's retelling (with clips) a really long series that he is super into, and now I've filled in another gap in my cultural knowledge.

Although if the plot of Modern Warfare took four hours, imagine how long a video Wendi would have made if he'd been into Metal Gear Solid instead.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Same, and this is what Wendi does well: he's retelling (with clips) a really long series that he is super into, and now I've filled in another gap in my cultural knowledge.

Although if the plot of Modern Warfare took four hours, imagine how long a video Wendi would have made if he'd been into Metal Gear Solid instead.

I'd say it's more 1/3 of the video being the plot, 1/3 being the inspiration/effect the game had, and 1/3 being his own feeling on the game.

It is pretty funny how capable Russians were in-game, when the Ukraine war showed them to be seriously lacking in multiple areas.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I'd say it's more 1/3 of the video being the plot, 1/3 being the inspiration/effect the game had, and 1/3 being his own feeling on the game.

I'm still confused why the fujos so badly want Ghost and Soap to be an item, if they were in different theaters of operation for most of the game; you'd think there would be a hundred Price/Soap yaois instead, but I'm fine to let that remain a mystery.

 

[Eventide]

I am sensing a theme with the new videos. Wendi really missed out on hiring me as a researcher, I got all sorts of wild shit on deck ready to go. At the very least, I can find stories that aren't on the front page of Reddit.

Maybe start your own channel? Alas, I'm starting to fear Wendigoon also caught a terminal case of the libsh!t brain disease

 

[Edgeymcedgename]

Maybe start your own channel? Alas, I'm starting to fear Wendigoon also caught a terminal case of the libsh!t brain disease

Or maybe it's the person he's working with? Is that cope? It kinda sounds like cope.