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I wish I could enjoy western cartoons again. I don't know if it's it or me. I hate to be a nostalgiafag or weeb who only watches anime and shuns western cartoons but I often find myself more engaged with it. I still love some older stuff I enjoyed as a kid like Billy and Mandy, MLATR and Dave the Barbarian but nothing new coming from the networks and streaming services except very rare stuff like Primal or Invincible interests me. It's basically when I watch something like Demon Slayer or even ancient lower budget stuff like Gundam 0079 I think "why are western animators so afraid of simply drawing?" It's either super basic designs, puppet rig trash or 3DCG of varying quality.
 
Eh, we’ll see where this goes. Also…
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“People” on Twitter are already claiming that Jabberjaw is a trans “icon” due to the character being genderswapped for the show. It’s worth noting that this isn’t the first time this was tried…
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Scoob was originally set to feature a genderswapped version but was cut during production.
 
Why does the movement feel more stiff than an actual HB cartoon?

The dramatic irony here is the original designs were built around limited animation techniques, and now they’re even more simplified to ease further on the animation (and to make things easier for 'artists' who can't actually draw).
No doubt the lessons H-B had to learn and perfect are simply thrown out the window now by these guys.

Also feel sorry for Jabberjaw going from "Curly Howard" to this.
 
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I wish I could enjoy western cartoons again. I don't know if it's it or me. I hate to be a nostalgiafag or weeb who only watches anime and shuns western cartoons but I often find myself more engaged with it. I still love some older stuff I enjoyed as a kid like Billy and Mandy, MLATR and Dave the Barbarian but nothing new coming from the networks and streaming services except very rare stuff like Primal or Invincible interests me. It's basically when I watch something like Demon Slayer or even ancient lower budget stuff like Gundam 0079 I think "why are western animators so afraid of simply drawing?" It's either super basic designs, puppet rig trash or 3DCG of varying quality.
Most of today’s Western Animation has succumbed to caring about what the corporations and social media think tanks care about cartoons than what the actual fans want. The difference with anime is that it’s more diverse and level-headed with how they treat their products and fans as both fans first and products second.

Knowing Birds Of Prey, I wouldn’t get shocked if they ever made a drag queen like superhero movie that gets mistakenly marketed towards children.
 
Most of today’s Western Animation has succumbed to caring about what the corporations and social media think tanks care about cartoons than what the actual fans want. The difference with anime is that it’s more diverse and level-headed with how they treat their products and fans as both fans first and products second.


Knowing Birds Of Prey, I wouldn’t get shocked if they ever made a drag queen like superhero movie that gets mistakenly marketed towards children.

"Mistakenly"
 
Eh, we’ll see where this goes. Also…
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“People” on Twitter are already claiming that Jabberjaw is a trans “icon” due to the character being genderswapped for the show. It’s worth noting that this isn’t the first time this was tried…
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Scoob was originally set to feature a genderswapped version but was cut during production.
That’s because both an animator on the show and the director said that any character that was genderswapped is now trans.

I’m serious.
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That’s because both an animator on the show and the director said that any character that was genderswapped is now trans.

I’m serious.
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The "death of the author" mindset that the modern left adores states that just because they have a hand in making something doesn't mean they know anything about it.
Snagglepuss is a reborn Confederate General still looking for his old slaves because he wanted to free them himself and was punished by the Egyptian god Sobek for his insolence. There, I already have a less retarded and equally valid theory then these chucklefucks.
 
The "death of the author" mindset that the modern left adores states that just because they have a hand in making something doesn't mean they know anything about it.
Snagglepuss is a reborn Confederate General still looking for his old slaves because he wanted to free them himself and was punished by the Egyptian god Sobek for his insolence. There, I already have a less retarded and equally valid theory then these chucklefucks.
I'd watch it.
 
The Courage/Scooby Doo crossover is such a bittersweet thing. It looks like harmless fun and would have been something I would have loved as a kid, but it sucks Dilworth has no say in his own creation, especially since he’s been wanting to do more Courage stories for years. I hope they can capture the original feel of the show but from what I’ve seen it looks kind of off.
The Jellystone cartoon was already looking pretty rough but it was seeing the loons working on it that’s really starting to scare me.
The only silver lining is that industry vets like Genndy Tartakovsky and Craig McCracken are still around and making new works while Invincible’s success ensures that adult action cartoons are here to stay. Plus we got indies. These are the only things keeping from taking the nostalgia pill or the anime pill.
 
The Courage/Scooby Doo crossover is such a bittersweet thing. It looks like harmless fun and would have been something I would have loved as a kid, but it sucks Dilworth has no say in his own creation, especially since he’s been wanting to do more Courage stories for years. I hope they can capture the original feel of the show but from what I’ve seen it looks kind of off.
The Jellystone cartoon was already looking pretty rough but it was seeing the loons working on it that’s really starting to scare me.
The only silver lining is that industry vets like Genndy Tartakovsky and Craig McCracken are still around and making new works while Invincible’s success ensures that adult action cartoons are here to stay. Plus we got indies. These are the only things keeping from taking the nostalgia pill or the anime pill.
Genndy hit it off with a bang with his latest work called Primal. First season was a simple tale of family and survival between the dinosaur and cave man. Hopefully S2 keeps it that way but with the introduction of the tribe that arrived from the sea to capture their slave, we can only hope the show doesn't try to preach any woke bullshit. Otherwise, anime will reign supreme for now.
 
Say what you want about Hannha Barbera style from the 60s to 80s relying too much on limited animation and rehashed ideas. But at least the character designs looked like some time and effort went into them. And even at their laziest they still cared about the medium of animation and didn't solely focus on the bottom line.


Tldr they deserve better than this.
 
Say what you want about Hannha Barbera style from the 60s to 80s relying too much on limited animation and rehashed ideas. But at least the character designs looked like some time and effort went into them. And even at their laziest they still cared about the medium of animation and didn't solely focus on the bottom line.


Tldr they deserve better than this.
How I feel. This just feels insulting to me.
 
Genndy hit it off with a bang with his latest work called Primal. First season was a simple tale of family and survival between the dinosaur and cave man. Hopefully S2 keeps it that way but with the introduction of the tribe that arrived from the sea to capture their slave, we can only hope the show doesn't try to preach any woke bullshit. Otherwise, anime will reign supreme for now.
Genndys not openly based but he knows nobody actually watching cares about being woke or virtue signaling.
That’s because both an animator on the show and the director said that any character that was genderswapped is now trans.

I’m serious.
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These characters are troons because I say so shut up and watch or shut up and Fuck you.


God the pompous arrogance of these scumbags. Idc she's a woman I legit feel like I need to punch something after reading that.
 
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