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[Arbiter]

a sad gay man trapped in a marriage with a yucky woman (eeew) because of da evil christian trad values, he is now a wacky bad boy who is just so tragic and redeemable.

Clay is so fucked up, I wouldn't even consider him gay, straight, or bi. His sexuality is mommy/daddy issues. I think the intent with his character is to show that he perverts Christianity for his own selfish agenda, and he chooses to let his trauma and vices destroy him and his family. Orel is the opposite of Clay. He goes through much of the same trauma, but despite this, he works to become a good person, create a happy family, and is a true Christian. I was honestly very surprised the first time I watched the series by how not-anti-Christian it is.

 

[YWNBAM]

Clay is so fucked up, I wouldn't even consider him gay, straight, or bi. His sexuality is mommy/daddy issues

Yes, but you just know it was the gay subplot that brought him so much positive attention in the first place. Libcucks sure love their closeted christian trad faggots — the more deranged, the better. Now they can not only make gay porn about the guy, but also get to feel smug about their arachnophobe meme beliefs affirmed.

 

[Arbiter]

Yes, but you just know it was the gay subplot that brought him so much positive attention in the first place. Libcucks sure love their closeted christian trad faggots — the more deranged, the better. Now they can not only make gay porn about the guy, but also get to feel smug about their arachnophobe meme beliefs affirmed.

You reminded me of these comments I saw left by preteen/teenage girls on Common Sense Media. Don't let your kids watch Moral Orel people.
The one 12-year-old saying Orel is so relatable.

 

[Trilby]

You reminded me of these comments I saw left by preteen/teenage girls on Common Sense Media. Don't let your kids watch Moral Orel people.
The one 12-year-old saying Orel is so relatable.

I can't see this being relatable to anyone who hasn't been stuck in Sunday School their entire childhood and regret it as adults.

 

[The Nothingness]

So I loaded up xitter this morning to harvest some fresh cawntent and well fuck my day is already ruined
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Seems the trailer dropped on this thread a while back with a prediction that the anti-stalinist message will be mutilated...


....and I am here to confirm from the clip that Seth Rogan plays Napoleon as a pig supremacist who tries to recruit the wholesome vague-socialist chungus original character protagonist pig into the nazi pig pipeline because fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

Oh yeah and its also a "well that happened..." comedy movie because FUCKING FUCK YOU

Yes, when I think of a character who is based on one of history's worst dictators, I think of him being voiced by Seth Rogan who quips like he's in one of his stoner comedies

 

[BigBadBastich]

Andy Serkis really should just stick to mocap or the occasional voice role or villain.

Also, does fucking Seth Rogen need to be everywhere?

Hearing his voice in any context is one of my top 5 ways to ruin my day. Its why watching Invincible is sometimes difficult for me. The laugh is just even worse and I will not watch a single movie with him in it. Even if its just a cameo.

 

[Chilson]

Andy Serkis really should just stick to mocap or the occasional voice role or villain.

He did a great job in Andor as a live action actor. He should really just avoid Seth Rogan and all the others like him in hollywood TBH.

 

[Solid Snek]

So I loaded up xitter this morning to harvest some fresh cawntent and well fuck my day is already ruined
View attachment 7468374

Seems the trailer dropped on this thread a while back with a prediction that the anti-stalinist message will be mutilated...


....and I am here to confirm from the clip that Seth Rogan plays Napoleon as a pig supremacist who tries to recruit the wholesome vague-socialist chungus original character protagonist pig into the nazi pig pipeline because fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

Oh yeah and its also a "well that happened..." comedy movie because FUCKING FUCK YOU

Yeah, saw the same thing. Came looking to see if I was hallucinating or not.

Changing Animal Farm from a harrowing allegory about the Soviet Revolution, and how the Communist elite will promise to liberate you from your class enemies, only to devolve into authoritarian collectivism and oppress you even harder than your former overlords, into some tired "Trump bad, globohomo good" neoliberal sermon that reinforces the messaging of our own Communist elite, would NOT be the first time Orwell got "localized" for "contemporary audiences".

But it will probably be the most blatant example of butchering and subverting the original message, and I can virtually guarantee that several of the filmfag commies responsible for this one will have, at some point in the past (probably 3rd year of college), bitched over their lattes about how "the CIA's influence over 1954's Animal Farm subverted the message of the original story by having the animal-citizens rise up against their stable and functional Communist governments, in what was clearly an attempt to justify CIA-backed anti-socialist regime change in Latin America blah blah blah".


Anyone got more predictions?

What I'm wondering about the most is how they'll handle Boxer - the hardworking, socially conservative, bluecollar Englishman that Orwell had a fondness for, whose good nature, stoicism, and strong work-ethic was weaponized against him, resulting in his death and replacement by the cynical sociopathic Commie elite.

It's possible Boxer could be a MAGA Republican whose trusting nature gets him sent the glue factory by the Indian H-1Bs that Elon MuskPig has hire to replace him, but that seems too sympathetic to MAGA and WAY too based. And they definitely won't pull a straight white genocide plot with Boxer being a normal, non-MAGA, politically apathetic horse who gets glue factory'd by Haitians and Guatemalans because, in the minds of Communist technocrats, he's literally just a machine to be used and used and used until broken.

My guess?
-They'll recast him as a Mexican, possibly a burro, and then the pigs will deport him because they're ignorant and hate horses for no reason. "OH NO, we have no horse left to pick the avocados!!!" or something equally silly.

A lot of the subplots are Old Left critiques of capitalism and will be hard to adapt into a shitlib morality play about racism, but you could probably do something like:
- Mollie has body-image issues and must learn to be a feminist girl boss
- Clover learns to read, which turns her woke, and the pigs don't like that cuz they're racist
- Moses is a Christofascist who doesn't like the gay tranny pig (because racism)
- Old Major is a magical negro woman, because why not?
- The dogs get into the Manosphere and there's at least one scene where we know they're evil now, because they do pushups

Or they'll just give up on the sideplots entirely and focus exclusively on Snowball (? I'm guessing the childlike audience stand-in pig in the preview is Snowball?) and his crew of one-dimensionally gay/trans/multiracial animal friends as they band together to stop Orange Napoleon from committing a racism and deporting all the non-pigs.


Also, it's definitely going to have somebody saying "Make Animals Great Again".

 

[FK009]

Also, it's definitely going to have somebody saying "Make Animals Great Again".

This 100% will happen, because they cannot help themselves.

However, I feel like this is less a prediction you made, and more a case that you sat in when they were writing the script.

 

[Anonitolia]

knowing how this rewrite is going to go, casting Seth Fucking Rogen as the star is so unfathomably depressing it isn't even funny
not even just for him being Seth Fucking Rogen, but for this

this is like Catholics fleeing England to escape persecution (up to and including their possible deaths) and then proceeding to excitedly contribute to propaganda about how Protestants are actually cool, awesome, loving people that dindu nuffin and the racist chuds of their new home are the ones we should all be afraid of

granted, i'm not sure this is entirely comparable given that his parents had already caught the retard virus and taught him appropriately, but I cannot imagine teaching your children to hate the system that brought you safety and prosperity while praising the hellish depths of the system that your parents risked their lives to escape


I hope this movie bombs so hard that Seth Rogen's career crashes and burns

 

[Solid Snek]

- "Well, at least the price of eggs won't go up" say the chickens as Napoleon deports them.
- despite being super smart and good at everything, all the girlbosses are frumpy and/or fat... except the black tranny pig, who is both smart AND sexy, and is heckin accepted by his sisters
- At the end of film, once Snowball and Pals liberate the animals, a kindly black farmer (white wife or gay) takes over the farm, and all the animals dance to a Lady Gaga song.
- Movie bombs, studio blames toxic fan culture. (FREE SPACE)

 

[King Metalia]

So I loaded up xitter this morning to harvest some fresh cawntent and well fuck my day is already ruined
View attachment 7468374

Seems the trailer dropped on this thread a while back with a prediction that the anti-stalinist message will be mutilated...


....and I am here to confirm from the clip that Seth Rogan plays Napoleon as a pig supremacist who tries to recruit the wholesome vague-socialist chungus original character protagonist pig into the nazi pig pipeline because fuck you fuck you fuck you FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU

Oh yeah and its also a "well that happened..." comedy movie because FUCKING FUCK YOU

I haven't read Animal Farm but I'm quite certain it's neither a commentary on Donald Trump or aimed at kid's based on the art style.

 

[Flexo]

I haven't read Animal Farm but I'm quite certain it's neither a commentary on Donald Trump or aimed at kid's based on the art style.

For a minute there I was about to mock you then realized you were talking about the book, not the movie. (the art style thing threw me since it didn't really have pictures)

This has inspired me to finally get a hard copy of the book and buckle down to fully read the thing so I can be right and properly pissed off at this abomination. (hey it's on my to-read list!)

 

[Solid Snek]

lmfao, I looked up the Wikipedia page just now:

BLACK TRANS CASTING.

Not sure who "Puff" is (maybe a rabbit rather than a pig? Even though rabbits don't belong on farms?) but SOME form of tranny character is almost certain.

I think I was wrong about Snowball, though. Snowball's got low billing, and I guess the kid pig hero is "Lucky" (OC written for the film?? Toothless Kid from Stranger Things is playing him)

 

[Trilby]

lmfao, I looked up the Wikipedia page just now:
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BLACK TRANS CASTING.

Not sure who "Puff" is (maybe a rabbit rather than a pig? Even though rabbits don't belong on farms?) but SOME form of tranny character is almost certain.

I think I was wrong about Snowball, though. Snowball's got low billing, and I guess the kid pig hero is "Lucky" (OC written for the film?? Toothless Kid from Stranger Things is playing him)

Poor Orwell, having his work perverted like this.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

knowing how this rewrite is going to go, casting Seth Fucking Rogen as the star is so unfathomably depressing it isn't even funny
not even just for him being Seth Fucking Rogen, but for this
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this is like Catholics fleeing England to escape persecution (up to and including their possible deaths) and then proceeding to excitedly contribute to propaganda about how Protestants are actually cool, awesome, loving people that dindu nuffin and the racist chuds of their new home are the ones we should all be afraid of

granted, i'm not sure this is entirely comparable given that his parents had already caught the retard virus and taught him appropriately, but I cannot imagine teaching your children to hate the system that brought you safety and prosperity while praising the hellish depths of the system that your parents risked their lives to escape
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I hope this movie bombs so hard that Seth Rogen's career crashes and burns

You didn't need to search for early life for that. Regardless, interesting to know that he is "Russian" and "Ukranian".

Also, why did this nigger-kike say in an interview with Marc Maron that "he is 100% afraid of the Jews" Is he afraid of looking at the fucking mirror or something? Of course, he's afraid of pissing off powerful people.

 

[Anonitolia]

Also, why did this nigger-kike say in an interview with Marc Maron that "he is 100% afraid of the Jews" Is he afraid of looking at the fucking mirror or something?

if he had anywhere near the kind of upbringing I understand most soviet jewish immigrants to have had, he would know that every time the jews chose to assist in the destruction of their own people they paid dearly for it

assuming he still has a brain in there (a bold assumption given who we’re talking about, I know), he would be able to recognize that he and his parents are textbook stabbing their ancestors in the back. they are betraying everything his family fled across the seas to escape in a futile attempt to assimilate. To save himself, he throws everything his family and friends’ families risked life and limb to flee in the trash. He abandons his beliefs, both traditional and familial, to become nothing more than a puppet for an industry that is slowly growing to hate him. he believes that by taking up the pitchforks of the angry village people, he will be exempt from the pogrom.


it’s not uncommon with Hollywood jews, I can’t say I’m surprised, but it’s especially cruel when framed in this context. To desecrate an eternal, powerful warning against the kind of regime that would have had his family starved, shoved into 16-family apartments the size of a one-car garage, and denied education or exit from the country without extreme consequence. To do it with a man whose entire bloodline would understand the kind of suffering such regimes bring better than any longstanding American or Canadian.

to basically turn a giant red warning sign into a kid-friendly advertisement for the exact kind of suffering that brought Rogen’s family here, and actively try to court such a destructive and evil system on the shores of the only country who’s never even flirted with the idea, is tantamount to sacrilege in my mind and if this administration were as fascist as Hollywood likes to believe this entire production would have been destroyed from the get-go for being evil, anti-American propaganda

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

if he had anywhere near the kind of upbringing I understand most soviet jewish immigrants to have had, he would know that every time the jews chose to assist in the destruction of their own people they paid dearly for it

Pretty much. Pogroms were very much deserved, even if they didn't happen in the scale they claim it happened.

Thread tax:
Is there any wonder why Eastern animation keeps being propped up as of late? Meaning, on a relative rise? Anything that you think that needs to be "remastered", beware, it's definitely full of shit. Eastern audiences don't seem to be busy searching for something that needs to be in need for that. If anything, they seem to be questioning if an OVA should get a live action adaptation (say, Bleach, or Death Note).

 

[The Nothingness]

What I'm wondering about the most is how they'll handle Boxer - the hardworking, socially conservative, bluecollar Englishman that Orwell had a fondness for, whose good nature, stoicism, and strong work-ethic was weaponized against him, resulting in his death and replacement by the cynical sociopathic Commie elite.

It's possible Boxer could be a MAGA Republican whose trusting nature gets him sent the glue factory by the Indian H-1Bs that Elon MuskPig has hire to replace him, but that seems too sympathetic to MAGA and WAY too based. And they definitely won't pull a straight white genocide plot with Boxer being a normal, non-MAGA, politically apathetic horse who gets glue factory'd by Haitians and Guatemalans because, in the minds of Communist technocrats, he's literally just a machine to be used and used and used until broken.

My guess?
-They'll recast him as a Mexican, possibly a burro, and then the pigs will deport him because they're ignorant and hate horses for no reason. "OH NO, we have no horse left to pick the avocados!!!" or something equally silly.

Well, Woody Harrelson is voicing Boxer. So it might play out that he realizes his working days are over and lets a mare of color take over as he accepts his fate to the glue factory, seeing it as a good thing.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Woody Harrelson is voicing Boxer.

dude green hay lmao