What are the Academic taboos?

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Trust the science.

We rely on academics to educate new generations. To divine truth out of nature.

And even those who have a high degree of trust in the general project, know the academies are still run by humans. And humans have human motivations and ambitions, which can run counter to finding truth.

What academic taboos have you found/run into?

Where is "scientific consensus" wrong?
 
Reporting health and safety concerns. The labs really hate that. You're meant to quietly sweep it up and keep your mouth shut.

Also reporting any benefits to bad things. Nicotine has been found to improve memory in some studies. You can't reaserch or report on it because nicotine bad. People aren't adult enough to realize that cancer and poor cardiovascular health isn't worth a mild improvement in memory that might not even exist
 
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Mental health.

Just for example there's a growing belief that multiple personality disorder DID, DPD or w/e the fuck they're calling it this week just flat out is not real. The foundational case study for it turned out to be fake and all subsequent diagnoses are thought to be iatrogenic or attention seeking, those that dispute that it's real are not having a good time despite all evidence pointing to the fact they're probably correct.
 
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Mental health.

Just for example there's a growing belief that multiple personality disorder DID, DPD or w/e the fuck they're calling it this week just flat out is not real. The foundational case study for it turned out to be fake and all subsequent diagnoses are thought to be iatrogenic or attention seeking, those that dispute that it's real are not having a good time despite all evidence pointing to the fact they're probably correct.
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Okay you need to untangle this a bit for me, because I have never followed academic thought much on this subject, even though I've been fascinated by DID and dived into supposed methods of traumatic mind control.

Are you saying that the growing belief is growing within or outside the academy? And if all diagnoses of it turn out to be medicine induced or copycats, does that make someone like kim noble one or both of those?
I'm also having trouble parsing your last sentence, probably because I'm sick today and my mind works slowly. Are you saying that the evidence points to the fact that the whole thing isn't real?
 
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Are you saying that the growing belief is growing within or outside the academy? And if all diagnoses of it turn out to be medicine induced or copycats, does that make someone like kim noble one or both of those?
I'm also having trouble parsing your last sentence, probably because I'm sick today and my mind works slowly. Are you saying that the evidence points to the fact that the whole thing isn't real?
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Growing inside academic circles, it's always been a little contentious but accepted by the authorities (publishers of DSM and other similar medical literature)

Dunno who Kim Noble but is it's often a little of both. A misdiagnosis of something else plants the idea it's something they can do for attention, an excuse for being a dick, or that it something real that's actually happening to them. Depending on what their underlying condition actually is. Although there are lots that think "lol how random XD i am DID"

In my layman view it's not real, during the covid pandemic the amount of new DID and Tourette's presentations went up in countries that had tiktokers that made funny videos about DID/Tourette's.
 
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Growing inside academic circles, it's always been a little contentious but accepted by the authorities (publishers of DSM and other similar medical literature)

Dunno who Kim Noble but is it's often a little of both. A misdiagnosis of something else plants the idea it's something they can do for attention, an excuse for being a dick, or that it something real that's actually happening to them. Depending on what their underlying condition actually is. Although there are lots that think "lol how random XD i am DID"

In my layman view it's not real, during the covid pandemic the amount of new DID and Tourette's presentations went up in countries that had tiktokers that made funny videos about DID/Tourette's.
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In regards to Kim Noble, I haven't done any research on it besides watching various video interviews of her like this vice piece, but it always seemed to ring true to me:

Considering this touches on a genuine taboo, mk ultra, monarch mind control, trauma based mind control, my first instincts say that dismissing DID is an intentional delegitimization of victims. The same way as the false idea of changing memories through interrogation was created out of whole cloth by the False Memory Syndrome Foundation (started by parents accused of pedophilia and other abuse).

Just because tiktokkers try to mimic something, doesn't mean a genuine version of the same thing doesn't exist. Tiktokkers will mimic anything for attention.
 
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Just because tiktokkers try to mimic something, doesn't mean a genuine version of the same thing doesn't exist. Tiktokkers will mimic anything for attention.
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It's not that tiktokers try to imitate something it's that the people watching them show up at therapists offices believing they have the illness even manifesting what they believe the symptoms to look like. They aren't all consciously pretending

A persons mental health is incredibly open to suggestion, knowledge of something increases is presentation. Even if that knowledge is wrong.
 
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It's not that tiktokers try to imitate something it's that the people watching them show up at therapists offices believing they have the illness even manifesting what they believe the symptoms to look like. They aren't all consciously pretending
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I dunno, having seen that kim noble in the video I shared above, and having hurt her daughter's feelings by not remembering her, but also seeing her cry and trying to comfort her (by saying her daughter would have loved her too, when she is the daughter) was for me an example of how someone has gone quite far beyond either pretending or psychosomatically inducing it. To me it seemed like the real thing. I know the segment is edited in the horrible oprah kind of way, but there are plenty of other videos of her that further support it that aren't edited like that.
 
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I dunno, having seen that kim noble in the video I shared above, and having hurt her daughter's feelings by not remembering her, but also seeing her cry and trying to comfort her (by saying her daughter would have loved her too, when she is the daughter) was for me an example of how someone has gone quite far beyond either pretending or psychosomatically inducing it. To me it seemed like the real thing. I know the segment is edited in the horrible oprah kind of way, but there are plenty of other videos of her that further support it that aren't edited like that.
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Nocebo effects/mass hysteria, the mind can manifest rashes, pain, migraines, fainting and breathing problems to drugs/illness that aren't present.

You can't trust physically measurable symptoms, never mind words or behavour.
 
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Nocebo effects/mass hysteria, the mind can manifest rashes, pain, migraines, fainting and breathing problems to drugs/illness that aren't present.

You can't trust physically measurable symptoms, never mind words or behavour.
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The mind can not manifest rashes. Hands can scratch open skin into rashes though.

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Okay so if I go back to your original post;

You say there is a growing belief inside academic circles that Dissociative disorder isn't real. You say the foundational study was fake. So you see this as a conflict inside academic circles between (the more authorative DSM and the APA that runs it) and (psychology faculties)? or...?

Overall that seems to me like it isn't so much a taboo if it starting to change from within.
 
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Even the most conservative/libertarian of academics will still be complete faggots about Trump, populism, nationalism, and other such.
Conservative/libertarian academics are always cattle about believing official statistics (how could it be otherwise, their work is dependent on data being correct)* and dismissing ideas that don't come from Authority Man.
They're generally very cowardly creatures.
They often, more in some fields than others, very snobbish and prefer airy speech to earthy speech.

*Consider how many economic analyses have been done using COVID models developed from the Imperial epidemiological model or on faulty global warming models. The analysis itself can be correct for the given data yet is entirely worthless because the data was fraudulent or generated by some worthless process. Now start to throw in situations (besides the obvious one of falsely counted COVID deaths) where a government may be tampering with its statistics for other reasons. It's not their fault, but it invalidates everything they do.
 
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Oh yeah, anthropogenic global warming, I knew I was forgetting one.

I had never thought about politics itself, that is a good point.
 
In my experience academics prioritize making foreigners (a huge chunk of academia are foreign professors and grad students) comfortable above all else, including their own principles.
 
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