What are your thoughts on alcohol regulation and prohibition

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Alcohol is the most regulated beverage you can drink. Perhaps too much to swallow. You have to be 21 or older to drink it, that's also the same age the person who you're selling it to has to be, in fact even to work a job selling alcohol that's the minimum age you have to be. So, drinking alcohol is much like losing your virginity in that you have to be a certain age for it to happen otherwise you were raped. Also, you cannot drive after drinking too much of it, it impairs your judgment.

In the olden days, we prohibited alcohol because it was dangerous. That went well, as we all know by now. What does KF propose? I say that we should just drink purple drank and huff ether instead, because that is a lot safer. Lean is non-alcoholic, therefore it is safe for anybody to drink. We should sell it to kids to turn them into a bunch of delinquent niggers. That would be libertarian paradise.
 
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"Alcohol is the most regulated beverage you can drink. "

Much of that depends on which state you're consuming it in, as well - especially availability and taxes. Growing up in PA, you could only get wine and booze at the State Store. Beer was limited to a couple of six packs takeout at the bar, or going to a licensed beverage distributor. The first time I came out West, I was amazed that you could buy booze, wine and beer at any grocery store, even corner convenience stores. Also, there were plenty of "Blue laws" in place as to when you could buy alcohol (ex. not before noon on Sunday), but many of those restrictions have gone away.

PA was also oddball Quaker on the drinking age. They were 21 years old always, and never changed even though all the surrounding states lowered the drinking age to 18. I could drive over into New Jersey and get drunk off my ass at 18, but not at home in PA. Eventually, the "21 mandate" became nationwide, but it always irked me in the sense that:
  • If I'm 18, I can be drafted and sent off to die in some globohomo war.
  • If I'm 18, I'm considered an adult in the eyes of the law.
  • If I'm 18, I can register and vote.
But.you.can't.buy.a.beer. And Lord knows, I paid a few "underage drinking" fines in PA at 20 years old!

Then, throw in other weird shit like Colorado only allowing 3.2% beer. Utah (craziest of the crazy) you couldn't buy a drink in the airport. Oh, you could walk down the aisle, buy a bottle from the gift shop, take it back to the bar, and they could then mix and serve it to you, but they couldn't sell you a mixed drink on the spot. Lunacy.
 
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Slappy McGherkin said:
Also, there were plenty of "Blue laws" in place as to when you could buy alcohol (ex. not before noon on Sunday)
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Those are on the town level here. So in a populated area, if you drive 5-10 minutes you'll end up in an area with completely different sale times. This site has been useful to me.

I've always found those pretty odd. Everywhere has restrictions on what time of day you can sell alcohol, but what exactly is the rationale behind them?
 
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Regulations are good, drunk people are the worst.
Prohibition 2 shoot anyone Who disobeys edition wen?
 
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Fuck off and let me have my booze. Any regulation that isn't penalizing drunk drivers or preventing minors (as in under 18 from getting it is gay. You faggots have made the world miserable enough, take away my ability to numb myself to it and <redacted fedposting>.
 
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Chopped & Screwed > White Girl Wasted
 
that's also the same age the person who you're selling it to has to be, in fact even to work a job selling alcohol that's the minimum age you have to be.
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That varies state to state. I was a bartender at 19 years of age.
 
Equivocal_Iki said:
I've always found those pretty odd. Everywhere has restrictions on what time of day you can sell alcohol, but what exactly is the rationale behind them?
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They want your happy ass in CHURCH, not in a sportsbar drinking and watching foosball at 10:00 am on Sunday morning.

Honestly, it's simply a matter of morals, that's all Blue Laws are. And alcohol isn't the only thing they prohibit, but they all revolve around what you can and can't do (and when you can do it) on Sunday. Many places still have them on the books and businesses have to abide by them.
 
Splinters RCVD said:
Alcohol consumption itself is completely fine, even the Bible does not forbid it.
Drunkenness and whatever can result from alcohol overconsumption is what should be penalized.
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That was grape juice. Ignore the fact that it was impossible to make nonalcoholic grape juice until the 1800s.
 
Agent Abe Caprine said:
That was grape juice. Ignore the fact that it was impossible to make nonalcoholic grape juice until the 1800s.
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The grape juice thing is a loose interpretation of "wine" from the Bible. Some linguistics below:
The New Testament is more difficult on this, as the greek word "oinos" is used, which can indeed be ambiguous and refer to grape juice or wine.
The Old Testament however, in its original Hebrew/Aramaic has multiple words for wine. The word specifically referring to alcoholic wine is "yayin".
We know this because this is the word used in Genesis 9:21, where Noah is described as getting drunk. The same word however, "yayin" is also used in Isaiah 55:1, which says:
“Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.”
This is a prophecy of healing and restoration from God to His people. I have a full original languages Bible right next to me on the table, plus I can read all three languages, even if I need a book to deal with the grammar. This is an issue I dealt with in terms of my faith and personal life a long time ago.
 
Slappy McGherkin said:
They want your happy ass in CHURCH, not in a sportsbar drinking and watching foosball at 10:00 am on Sunday morning.

Honestly, it's simply a matter of morals, that's all Blue Laws are. And alcohol isn't the only thing they prohibit, but they all revolve around what you can and can't do (and when you can do it) on Sunday. Many places still have them on the books and businesses have to abide by them.
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Well that explains the differences on Sunday, but why is it banned everyday from midnight to 6 (or at least around those times for most places)?
 
It's been tried and never worked out, the culture around it is too strong and too many people are afraid to function socially without it and normies are addicted to their social interactions.
 
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Drugs, booze, and tobacco should all be more regulated. I'm not sure about a total ban, if only for the repercussions.
 
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