What are your thoughts on "The Dolores Umbridge Paradox"? - Also known as the Umbridge Effect

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The long story short of the Umbridge Paradox is that it involves a character from Harry Potter who likes pink things, and cute things. Problem is, it's pretty much a mask, a facade, to have her truly wicked side not shown. For a real life definition, it pretty much is this.
“In comics and animation, I’ve noticed something I call the “Dolores Umbridge Paradox”. That is, the people who’re obsessed with sick, gross, dark humour tend to be the biggest sweethearts in real life. The people who only want to see cute, innocent characters getting up to cute, innocent stuff usually turn out to be the nastiest, most vindictive shitheads. Maybe your experience has been different, but it’s something I’ve found to be generally true.”
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Do you think this has truths? Perhaps some examples you have to share?
 
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Isn't that just life in general? Muslims beat up fags, priests rape the devil out of kids, Stacy hates those even sluttier than her, because they steal the attention.

Surely it must be a thoroughly studied complex considering how common polar opposites are in human psyche.
 
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There might be something to this. This chick I know was always in serial relationships and leaving a trail of broken hearts, doing some pretty nasty emotional shit. She loves MLP and Steven Universe. This all happened when she was still in late teens/early 20's so still too early to say for sure if she's a narc or something, but there's definitely a facade going on.
 
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Nekromantik2 said:
Read a different book. Like garakfan69 said, this is just a wolf in sheep's clothing concept renamed after Harry Potter.
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How about we give the concept a different name updated for currentyear...but just who could we name it after?
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doesn't hold any water imo. of the seriously disturbed people I've known, one enjoyed watching extreme horror movies and the other liked gross out comedy. and I think the inverse is only true in narrow cases- i.e. adult men who watch cartoons for little girls. but I think there is a kind of sheltered/naive person who finds dark media titillating because it's outside their experience and their imaginations can't fully go there.

though I'm fine with applying the rule to harry potter and saying hp fans are degenerates.
Nekromantik2 said:
Read a different book. Like garakfan69 said, this is just a wolf in sheep's clothing concept renamed after Harry Potter.
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eh that's a more common sense fable about deception when you drop your guard. this sounds like a broader rule of thumb about appearances always being the inverse of true self, or a general attitude about "wholesomeness."
 
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We need more villains like Lex Luthor, Dr. Doom, and Hannibal Lector. People who don't give a fuck about your feelings, thoughts, emotions, and are in the game for absolute world domination, power, or self-gratification. Motives, plots, and thoughts and that scream "I am evil so the fuck what, I'm winning" is vastly more interesting than another "Oh look the bad person who was nice was really bad, go figure." plot point.
 
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Honestly, I don't think this works as a general rule.

"That is, the people who’re obsessed with sick, gross, dark humour tend to be the biggest sweethearts in real life."
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We have plenty of cows here who are the opposite: They seem to be obsessed with that sort of imagery and media because they want other people to notice how gross and/or edgy they are and be repulsed by them. So this clearly isn't a universal truth.

"The people who only want to see cute, innocent characters getting up to cute, innocent stuff usually turn out to be the nastiest, most vindictive shitheads."
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In my experience, the people I've seen who fit this image also seem to be fixated with perverting that stuff, or simply using it as a shield to defend their own behavior as being moral. I don't think I've ever run into somebody who was a rotten person who just found innocent stuff to be relaxing and refreshing in its own right -- there's always an ulterior motive at play.

I'd actually be willing to be money that the person who originally proposed this statement is some self-important Tumblrite who thinks they're deep because they like "dark stuff" (and Harry Potter), and has a major beef with guys who like Friendship is Magic and slice-of-life moeblob anime.
 
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Reverend said:
We need more villains like Lex Luthor, Dr. Doom, and Hannibal Lector. People who don't give a fuck about your feelings, thoughts, emotions, and are in the game for absolute world domination, power, or self-gratification. Motives, plots, and thoughts and that scream "I am evil so the fuck what, I'm winning" is vastly more interesting than another "Oh look the bad person who was nice was really bad, go figure." plot point.
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You mean like Voldemort?
 
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crocodilian said:
You mean like Voldemort?
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Voldemort had his shit together until Harry potter came along then he lost his fucking mind and everything he worked hard to get going went to pieces. As a kid, those books were great, as an adult I'm wondering "Dude, kill him later, take over the world first THEN delegate out harry's death."
 
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