What would the world look like if fossil fuels had never been discovered and harnessed?

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Bored, decided to contemplate pointless "what ifs". Say you have a world where for, whatever reason, fossil fuels are not in the picture. How does this change the world meaningfully, what gets affected in the long run? Does the Industrial Revolution never happen? Does the world end up being a cleaner, healthier and more peaceful place or does it end up even dirtier and more miserable and violent? How is widespread technological development impacted?
 
cleaner, healthier and more peaceful? probably not. People used to dump their raw sewage from the windows. What you probably most importantly would miss the most (other than cars) is anything made of plastic, so a lot of things we have today wouldn't exist.
 
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cleaner, healthier and more peaceful? probably not. People used to dump their raw sewage from the windows. What you probably most importantly would miss the most (other than cars) is anything made of plastic, so a lot of things we have today wouldn't exist.
There were things like sewer systems before there were fossil fuels, though there may or may not be things like sewage treatment plants without a readily available source of energy. Plastics might not be in the picture at all, unless it's possible to synthesize polymers from other sources. Cars wouldn't have gasoline or diesel to run on - would there be electric cars instead? How would we even get to the point where we could make batteries/cells for electric vehicles without coal and oil-fired power plants and machinery? Aircraft, if they existed, wouldn't have petroleum-based fuels. Would people just get around the world a little less? How would that impact the transmission of information?
 
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There were things like sewer systems before there were fossil fuels, though there may or may not be things like sewage treatment plants without a readily available source of energy. Plastics might not be in the picture at all, unless it's possible to synthesize polymers from other sources. Cars wouldn't have gasoline or diesel to run on - would there be electric cars instead? How would we even get to the point where we could make batteries/cells for electric vehicles without coal and oil-fired power plants and machinery? Aircraft, if they existed, wouldn't have petroleum-based fuels. Would people just get around the world a little less? How would that impact the transmission of information?
it was a real example of humanity sorting out waste in the dumbest way possible. Basically take the past 100 years of progress, any advancement we've made like cars, planes or computers, it basically wouldn't have happened at all. There would be no plastics without petroleum. Human history dictates anything that didn't seem worth the effort pretty much didn't happen.

A good example of this would be ancient mesoamerica, which did not have wheeled travel or tech such as carts. It wasn't that they didn't have beasts of burden, it's because their culture prized work so much they would have rather walked around with people on their shoulders than be caught doing something easier.
 
Deforestation crisis as expanding populations require exponentially more wood for heating, cooking, construction, etc.
There are alternatives to wood that aren't petroleum, though I don't know how good they would be for anything beyond a fairly small scale. Animal products like herbivore dung, beeswax, whale oil, animal tallow, and vegetable-derived oils come to mind.

Human history dictates anything that didn't seem worth the effort pretty much didn't happen.
Sometimes it takes a matter of needing a better option to spur progress and development, and selling someone on a need for an alternative to burning forests' worth of trees to fuel things is a hard sell when they think the forest will always be there, this is true.
 
We needed coal and oil to both kickstart the Industrial Revolution, and have the energy required to begin investing in different energy production methods, namely nuclear and renewables. Without fossil fuels, we wouldn't be able to industrialize.
 
There are alternatives to wood that aren't petroleum, though I don't know how good they would be for anything beyond a fairly small scale. Animal products like herbivore dung, beeswax, whale oil, animal tallow, and vegetable-derived oils come to mind.
It's mostly just that people would have been content to just keep chopping more wood because chopping wood is easy.
 
It's mostly just that people would have been content to just keep chopping more wood because chopping wood is easy.
Would the increased consumption of wood prompt a more rapid development of forestry techniques and search for alternatives when it became evident that burning wood on a certain scale was unsustainable? Was forestry as we know it now even a twinkle in someone's eye before the Industrial Revolution?
 
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