What's wrong with Protestants?

[Copesneeddilate]

I notice a trend in Kiwifarms where protestants are unpopular while Catholicism is talk about more favorably, why is that?

Because the states with the most catholics are democratic-liberal bastions like New York and California who want to push more restrictive gun rights, are major proponents of pushing Illegal immigrants to take jobs away from American born citizens and, a president who cares more about a foreign country at war than his own citizens.



For a religion that say they follow Jesus Christ they do like to curse his name in vain, get more friendly with muslims, the most the unforgiving , and the most judgemental people I've encountered. And this is not mentioning the fat nigger women who say their catholics while practicing astrology. Most countries that are catholics are either shitholes like Mexico and the philippines or socialist failed experiments like Venezuela.

Catholicism is a corrupt church, but I've also encountered protestants that treat churches more like social clubs than hospitals for sinners. Not to mention their just as self-righteous, that they can do no wrong as their red and white cousins. Especially nigger protestants where there more likely to ask for donations than white protestant pastors even though their pretty well off than their more poorer darker cousins. Then you have the white protestant pastors in the south say the United States is a sinful country, its all doom and gloom, yet focus more on foreigners than helping convert followers in their home country.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Most of the people who do the trad stuff online are tards and reactionaries, and are very into the identity value of being religious.

Catholicism is more associated with orthodoxy and tradition, and thus if a person is a reactionary that will seem like the most opposite of the en vogue secular liberal shit you see in modern pop culture.
Plus it probably seems cooler to autistics, in terms of its history it's definitely more metal than protestantism. If I was being religious just to feel cool and subversive, I'd definitely go catholic.

Also a lot of the internet religious types are very hung up about women and sexual promiscuity, and Catholicism has a much more strict stance in that respect. Obviously not only is abortion not cool for Catholics, even using birth control isn't.

Protestantism I'd suggest is the more "liberal" Christian option on paper.

However Catholicism is helped by the fact that Catholics are less likely to actually give a shit about anything they preach.
They don't care that the teachings are more strict or bogged down with dogma because they leave it all at the door when they walk out, Catholicism tends to be treated more as an organizational and social allegiance than an actual life philosophy.

So that's my guess. In case it wasn't obvious I'm biased since I grew up protestant.

 

[Strix454]

There are different kinds of protestants with different types of problems.

Alot of the old-school protestant churches were subverted from within by people with a political agenda or the churches became so affiliated with delivering government-attached social problems that they became a secular extension of the government. The rot in those churches is just about total and anyone with an actual religious belief is having to walk away from them.

Alot of the evangelical churches are bad in a different ways:
1) There are the end times churches who pray for the end of the world and want to push the world into a doomsday war so that the second coming will happen.
2) There are the "show church" churches where the service is basically a concert with a show-band. Everything is passive and stupid. Many of them interpretate salvation as a license to sin and get with it. The churches tend to spend all their money on building clubhouse amenities. Very little if any religion involved.
3) There are the charismatic pastor churches where basically anything goes. Its all about building the church up big in terms of followers and money. They shout about how people need to get right with god. But all they want is the money really.
4) There are the crazies. Such as the protestant evangelicals who will now yell at people about how christmas and easter are actually pagan holidays. That what god really intended is for everyone to LARP being "jewish" and celebrating jewish holidays. In the worst of them, members attempt to prove through research their authentic "jewish blood" because their "jewish blood" sets them up for leadership in their churches now and will make them god's middle managers in the world to come.

The best churches I've seen these days focus on pushing the most basic parts of the christian message. That there is right and wrong in the world. That there is good and evil. That if you have done wrong, you have to admit it (at least to yourself and god) and you have to ask forgiveness through christ. In a world as messed up as the current one, that simple message can do alot of good actually.

The problems of Roman Catholicism are no different than they have ever been. Hypocracy, moral indifference & apathy behind the scenes, an attachment to empty ceremony & ritual, a very ignorant version of christianity and mixed messages on political issues. The current pope would for example be right at home in many of the worst protestant churches.

The problem in nearly all churches today is a lack of belief and disinterest in the basic christian message. All you can do today is have high standards and try to find a church that is authentic to christianity. They are progressively more rare, but they do still exist.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

An accurate summation of protestants:

 

[Syaoran Li]

An accurate summation of protestants:

Here's some even more better summations of the American Low Church Protestant trads and the Pat Buchanan fundamentalist types.

In America, High Church Protestants are usually seen as godless country club Yankee WASP's and suburbanite Karens who are little better than Unitarians.

Meanwhile, the Low Church Protestants/Fundamentalists are often viewed as the purview of inbred Appalachian hicks and Southern niggers who preach shit like dressing up for Halloween, watching anime reruns, reading fantasy and sci-fi novels, liking dinosaurs, or listening to a hard rock song on the radio are all instant tickets to an eternal fiery torment in Hell.

Whether these stereotypes are accurate and stigmas are justified or not is beside the point. The stereotypes and stigmas do exist and are fairly prevalent, which is why so many online trads LARP as some form of Catholic these days.

There's a reason why so many soy-addled beardo Redditor atheists are American and why so many edgy trads LARP as Catholic instead. Nobody wants to be either a High Church Karen or an inbred fundie Cletus.

 

[The Ugly One]

Catholicism does a good job of marketing itself as the Two Thousand Year Old Unchanging Tradition That Christ Founded. If you're looking for some stability in the sea of clown world chaos, Catholicism seems pretty stable. And, for what it's worth, while it has changed a lot more in the last 500 years than your average Catholic apologist will admit, it's changed a lot less in 500 years than your local megachurch has changed in the last 5. It's big enough that you can pick your favorite part of Catholicism and build your identity around that, while ignoring all the parts you don't like (dumb, superstitious 3rd worlders, boomerlib priests, casual Catholics who live like heathens, etc).

 

[Smug]

Many of the protestant "churches" we inevitably hear about in A&H etc. are the corrupted pro-faggotry ones. I think optics is a factor which needs to at least be taken into consideration.

Catholicism is a sect with many checks and balances which have made it more difficult for bad actors to subvert compared to the likes of "Bible-based" churches which don't take the Bible seriously anyway.

 

[Cnut]

Jesus loves eveyone, guys. If you are looking at Catholics vs Protestants there's too many denominations to compare. Some embrace God's word. Some love trannys. Some embrace evolution as God's plan. Some are creationists. Etc...

 

[Cyclonus]

 

[SpergioLeonne]

Protestantism is boring and Protestants tend to have high opinions of themselves. Protestantism itself is varying enough to occupy both extremes at the same time, also.

Tranny Dyke giving a sermon about how Jesus was trans? Protestant. Baptist fucktard who follows you around bitching all the time, and doesn’t call themselves Baptist but just “Christian” as if to imply that nobody who isn’t Baptist counts as Christian? Protestant.

If you’re Irish and from Boston, it’s pretty much expected that you’re going to swear and drink. Catholics are cool with that as long as you give confession and don’t sin between your last confession and death

 

[Nuns with guns]

American Protestantism has been in decline and given a bad rap due to evangelist politicians in the 90s and 2000s. On the other hand, as others mentioned, orthodoxy attracts reactionaries due to its structure, rich tradition, and more rigid dogma.

People that grew in Catholicism like me see no problem in adopting this views, but kids that are used to going to a gay baptist church in an ugly austere building are probably lured by the Baroque aesthetics of cathedrals and the Latin Mass—a tactic known as the Counterreform, which continues to be effective 500 years later.

 

[Betonhaus]

I guess it goes like this: would you rather have the teachings of the time tested traditions but choose what to use, or to religiously adhere to teachings that have been altered by your pastor's whims?

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Catholicism does a good job of marketing itself as the Two Thousand Year Old Unchanging Tradition That Christ Founded. If you're looking for some stability in the sea of clown world chaos, Catholicism seems pretty stable. And, for what it's worth, while it has changed a lot more in the last 500 years than your average Catholic apologist will admit, it's changed a lot less in 500 years than your local megachurch has changed in the last 5. It's big enough that you can pick your favorite part of Catholicism and build your identity around that, while ignoring all the parts you don't like (dumb, superstitious 3rd worlders, boomerlib priests, casual Catholics who live like heathens, etc).

If you want to be bent over the Altar and rammed up the ass by a closeted gay Catholic priest yeah you can join the Catholic Church
And the Catholic church is only 900 years old the Orthodox we have you guys beat by about a few thousand years and we actually haven't changed anything except the Western right Orthodox Christians f*** those guys

 

[Male Idiot]

Could be that the US has a rather large amount of "US only" sects that can be wacky like Mormons or Amish, and people go for the other end of the scale.

"Okey those are crazy I'll try the one more popular everywhere else."

 

[this is the drama reborn]

I say this as a non-white, but I prefer calvanism.

If you want to be bent over the Altar and rammed up the ass by a closeted gay Catholic priest yeah you can join the Catholic Church
And the Catholic church is only 900 years old the Orthodox we have you guys beat by about a few thousand years and we actually haven't changed anything except the Western right Orthodox Christians f*** those guys

According to the homosexuals in the early 1900s, the Catholic Church was the place to be. Nobakov’s gay brother used to go to Mid-night Mass in a face full of makeup. I also think that Jean Coctou and other his social set were church queers.

Also, I find that the Catholic Church is more likely to blend into the local religions. For example, New Orleans. Blacks going to church on Sunday Morning while practicing Voudou. Or people practicing some form of folk magic in the Caribbean or former Latin countries.

I noticed that Protestants tend to try rid these cultures of their local beliefs and traditions, while Catholicism tends to integrate them.

 

[Jobama]

Most of the people who do the trad stuff online are tards and reactionaries, and are very into the identity value of being religious.

Catholicism is more associated with orthodoxy and tradition, and thus if a person is a reactionary that will seem like the most opposite of the en vogue secular liberal shit you see in modern pop culture.
Plus it probably seems cooler to autistics, in terms of its history it's definitely more metal than protestantism. If I was being religious just to feel cool and subversive, I'd definitely go catholic.

Also a lot of the internet religious types are very hung up about women and sexual promiscuity, and Catholicism has a much more strict stance in that respect. Obviously not only is abortion not cool for Catholics, even using birth control isn't.

Protestantism I'd suggest is the more "liberal" Christian option on paper.

However Catholicism is helped by the fact that Catholics are less likely to actually give a shit about anything they preach.
They don't care that the teachings are more strict or bogged down with dogma because they leave it all at the door when they walk out, Catholicism tends to be treated more as an organizational and social allegiance than an actual life philosophy.

So that's my guess. In case it wasn't obvious I'm biased since I grew up protestant.

Young men adopting Catholicism or Orthodoxy is the same thing as young women becoming Buddhist because it looks exotic. They don’t actually know or care about any of the theological differences they just think it looks cool. I would feel embarrassed for Catholics to having to deal with all of these larpers but they’re probably too busy diddling children to care.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Young men adopting Catholicism or Orthodoxy is the same thing as young women becoming Buddhist because it looks exotic. They don’t actually know or care about any of the theological differences they just think it looks cool. I would feel embarrassed for Catholics to having to deal with all of these larpers but they’re probably too busy diddling children to care.

Most of the people online really have never been to a Catholic Church over tempted to become Catholic or Orthodox.
There's actually a very long process to joining the Orthodox and Catholic churches as an adult it can take up to a year sometimes 3 years
There's a few priests so just baptize anybody but most won't.

 

[Seafarer]

Protestants can do lulzy (or based depending on your perspective) things, like calling the pope the antichrist in his presence

 

[Strix454]

Protestants can do lulzy (or based depending on your perspective) things, like calling the pope the antichrist in his presence

Whereas "good catholics" will just pretend the current pope doesn't say the things he says. They will talk about how trad and conservative everything really is and just pretend that the current pope isn't there. The same people who bitch about Karens in protestant churches will look at the ground and change the subject if the current pope's views comes up.

 

[LillWeeb]

Here's some even more better summations of the American Low Church Protestant trads and the Pat Buchanan fundamentalist types.

In America, High Church Protestants are usually seen as godless country club Yankee WASP's and suburbanite Karens who are little better than Unitarians.

Meanwhile, the Low Church Protestants/Fundamentalists are often viewed as the purview of inbred Appalachian hicks and Southern niggers who preach shit like dressing up for Halloween, watching anime reruns, reading fantasy and sci-fi novels, liking dinosaurs, or listening to a hard rock song on the radio are all instant tickets to an eternal fiery torment in Hell.

Whether these stereotypes are accurate and stigmas are justified or not is beside the point. The stereotypes and stigmas do exist and are fairly prevalent, which is why so many online trads LARP as some form of Catholic these days.

There's a reason why so many soy-addled beardo Redditor atheists are American and why so many edgy trads LARP as Catholic instead. Nobody wants to be either a High Church Karen or an inbred fundie Cletus.

Keep in mind not all high chruch protestant denominations are liberal/ woke. High Church protestant conservative denominations do exist . Like the presbyterian church in America (PCA) and the Anglican Church of North America (ACNA) As well and the Lutheran church Missouri Synod,( but stay away from the evangelical Lutheran church they are very woke despite their name)
I'm a presbyterian so I attend a PCA chrurh, but to be a presbyterian is to be Calvinist so if you don't like Calvinism we may not be for you.
If So I would then recommend a Missouri Synod Lutheran or the ACNA church if your protestant and want a more liturgical high chruch experience , I have nothing against Roman Catholics and not trying to convince them to become protestant. But if you don't like Pope Francis and his influence he has in your church. Keep in mind People like him running the Catholic Church are the reason why the reformation happend. and I really recommend reading the works of reformers like Luther, Knox and Calvin.
And if your not Christian reading this I really do hope you will be saved and do come to Christ and take part in the chruch.