Where do politics ever begin?

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[DISCLAIMER]THERE IS A THREAD FOR DISCUSSING POLITICAL LEANINGS, THIS THREAD IS NOT FOR PROMOTING OR OPPOSING ANY IDEOLOGY, IT'S STRICTLY ABOUT DISCUSSING THE PRIME CONCEPT OF WHAT ROLE POLITICS HAVE IN YOUR PERSONAL LIFE![/DISCLAIMER]

So there was an election in Sweden recently regarding which representation we want to send to Brussels regarding our national involvement in the EU and I have noticed (myself not excluded) what a rift politics can cause between even friends or relatives. We don't have a bipartisan system so there are a lot of "fringe parties" involved whenever an election comes up, and I feel specifics would be detrimental to the topic as a whole, but there is also a lot of strong feelings involved when it comes to the more "extreme" ideologies that get a place on the ballot.

Now, my question to you guys is: do you ever feel that your personal political or ideological beliefs interfere with your personal life? And where do you draw the line on what role political differences will have in your inter-personal relationships?
 
I think political leanings are fairly important to my life, but in a way that's so ingrained I don't even think about it every day.

For example, there are a number of beliefs/ideologies that my close friends and I all take as absolute truth. Stuff like "Of course racism is bad, why even debate it?" (Well, that's a pretty simple example, but other stuff like that too.) I think if a person has views contrary to my beliefs on some of these subjects, it's going to make it difficult for me to develop any kind of bond with them.
 
Anyone who votes for anything needs to be exterminated. There, I said it. Thread over.
 
In the USA, politics has become acutely divisive in the past 15 years. Politics is, by its nature, divisive, but in the last few years it's been taken to the extent that no one even listens to those with opposing points of view. The media, and our politicians, have been feeding us this mindset that "we" and "our side" are always 100% right, and anyone who opposes us is an un-American traitor trying to destroy this country and they need to be stopped at all costs.

Folks, it doesn't work that way. It can't work that way. The American system of government was designed to work according to the will of the people. When the people HAVE no will, because they're constantly divided against each other, the government fails. And if you notice, it's been failing a lot lately. I contend there's a connection. I don't care what your issue is, or where you stand on it, you need to be able to dialogue with the other side. Disagree with them, argue with them, whatever you need to do, but you need to understand that they ARE your fellow citizens and their vote is just as important as yours.

To answer the OP's question: politics has had a very negative effect on my life, because it's created a culture of sheeple who refuse to see any perspective but their own. I can't communicate with people who cannot even discuss a topic rationally.
 
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This is were my politics both begin and end
 
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Mine do occasionally, but that's mostly because I am very politically active. I'm a Republican, although I do have friends who are Democrats. In all honesty, I come into conflict with members on the fringe of my own party (i.e. the tea party) far more than I do with Democrats, although that's very likely due to (A) proximity and (B) the fact that Alabama is now virtually a one party state.
 
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Except for occassionally butting heads with Facebook friends who post inane political posts, not that often. I don't like politics, though.
 
From my own perspective, I'm somewhat center-right. Really, as @Picklechu has said, the Tea Party ticks me off more than Obama ever could. At least, they do until I see that some liberal guy is trying to advance Tumblr-style feminism on his Facebook feed in the world's most obvious and pathetic way to get laid since the Attraction Sign.
 
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I grew up in a fairly conservative household, my dad in particular was very politically active and played a big part in my early political leanings. Now that I'm quite a lot more left-leaning, it's become a rather large part of the schism we have between us (among other things). It sucks because I really like my dad, he's smart, and hard-working, even in his old age. He did everything he could for us when we were growing up, even when our stepmother divorced him and kicked us out he could've dumped us on the lap of one of our relatives, but he didn't. He stuck with us, even if it meant having to sleep on the ratty old couch for a while because we couldn't afford beds for all of us, and he made it work.

So, in short, I'm kind of pissed off at the two party system right now because I think the "us vs them" mentality is just one more thing that keeps us apart. It's not the only thing, obviously, I've said some rather stupid shit to him too, but it just makes reconciliation that much harder. I'm afraid of him passing away before I get the chance to make up with him, or maybe even speak to him...

I don't really get hung up on the fiscal issues, but if someone disagrees with me vehemently on the social issues it gets a little hard for me to get along with them, although it is possible to get along if they're civil about it. One of my childhood friends is still very conservative and we're still great friends. We even have a few friendly debates now and then. It's actually a little awesome.
 
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I'm not inherently a political person, but I do keep up with current events. Democrats are wrong half of the time. Republicans are wrong half of the time. And also the other half.
 
A wise man once said that politics is the art of the possible. That's why you get so many mediocre minds going into it because geniuses challenge the impossible!

Seriously it takes a sick mind (IMHO) to want to go into politics. I feel there is something fundamentally wrong with those people who seek power over others. They may camouflage it with fancy words but in the end all politicians want to be able to tell you what you can and cannot do.

Sadly we currently have no better alternatives so until the machines become aware we're stuck with stupid greedy selfish people who will say anything to get elected and do anything to stay in power.
 
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Christ-Chan said:
Now, my question to you guys is: do you ever feel that your personal political or ideological beliefs interfere with your personal life? And where do you draw the line on what role political differences will have in your inter-personal relationships?
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I believe the name of this phenomena is "cruel optimism" where an object of your desire is impeding on your flourishing.
 
Christ-Chan said:
do you ever feel that your personal political or ideological beliefs interfere with your personal life? And where do you draw the line on what role political differences will have in your inter-personal relationships?
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I see all relationships as being reciprocal contracts which are independent of political views. As a result I don't care at all what other people believe as long as they will keep their word. The only exception is those who believe that there is no need to keep one's word
 
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I see everything as political, especially when governments interfere in virtually all aspects of life. I see the current divisive political climate in the US as a natural consequence of that, together with people increasingly realizing that compromise isn't getting their political goals met.
 
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