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Realistically, what is anyone supposed to do in the times we're in to build a decent life?
We've got a lot of big problems on the horizon. Of course times have always been difficult, but a lot of problems we have right now don't seem to have any easy answers. And the people who might have possible answers aren't in a place to initiate the change possible to get them. People can't just keep coping forever.
And even the things that would bring people respite from the drudgery seem to be slipping away from more people. Entertainment is shit, relationships both romantic and platonic seem to be dwindling.
I don't see any way for people to actually achieve fulfillment, romance, community, success or have upwards mobility any time in the near future. There doesn't even seem to be a realistic way to rebel or violently fight back at the system in place. I just keep wondering what is there anyone can do?
Of course things are not complete shit right now. Most people can eat, have recreational time and aren't all living in slums in the states. I'm not saying it's hopeless or it's 'the fall of humanity'. But it's all a little more aggravating, meandering, gay and pointless than the objectively more harsher times of conflict and strife in some ways. The scary thing is things are bad now but are probably going to get far worse. But nobody really knows when that's going to be, how severe the decline will be and how long it will last.
I think things can get better, and probably will within the next generation or so. But what are people supposed to do in the meantime? How do you make yourself more than a cog or find the same enjoyment or fulfilment you would have even 15 years ago?
 
Yeah but people need to actually have a life. People can't wait 20 years for the world to unfuck itself. Missing that window for social mobility will fuck a lot of people over.

But they are happy because they're still able to indulge in distracting frivolities or outright drugs, so, in a way, it's their fault? Dunno, bro
 
As a semi serious response here are two responses to techno feudalism.

1) Be the bad bitch who sits at the top or as close to as possible. Harder, but possible to do by birth, talent [this includes fucking the right people] or circumstance.

2) Retreat from society, remain offline, ignore as far as possible.

Social mobility is the product of freak moments in history like the black death or world wars, and certainly not normal. People have still found fulfilment in various ways despite that.

Also, go outside and touch grass.
 
I'm almost 23 now, probably don't have enough experience to put my two cents into this.
But I am pretty comfy with not being bothered by societal standards, and I think that might be the only way to really gain happiness currently.
You see these people slaving away on social media, pretending that they have gained this, but that's just the societal standard of happiness.
The standard of pretending everything is fine while it isn't is something we normalized at this point, and I fucking hate it.
Strive to be yourself; even if people try to pull you back into this world of societal norms, don't let them.
Say what you want, Act how you want, and be honest with the people who cannot handle this mindset.
Be the real You.
 
Yeah but some of the issues with community relationships probably arises specifically because things are still relatively good, to the point that people can afford to just be frustrating wasteful fags and throw everything away then get some more shipped in from Amazon rather than actually saving/sharing resources/helping each other to repair/relying on their neighbors in order to thrive.

If things were genuinely difficult and the system couldn't be relied on to keep things smoothed over people might go back to talking to one another.

Balance dictates that there's upsides and downsides to every situation and period.
I'm not exactly waiting on fate to step in and save us though, there's a good chance that when something happens it's going to be bad enough that people will be looking back counting the blessings they never knew they had.

Yeah but people need to actually have a life. People can't wait 20 years for the world to unfuck itself. Missing that window for social mobility will fuck a lot of people over.
It's true, it seems like the progression of your age will probably outpace the progression of the system. I figure trying to be healthy is the only (minor) recourse to that, so hopefully you age marginally less than everyone else does.
 
When people notice they are drifting through life, they ask themselves "what am I willing to live for?" Most people go through that at some point in their life so it's understandable why people ponder it. I did too. But I haven't found this question helpful to ask at all.

Honestly, you should probably ask yourself "what am I willing to die for?" If achieving something would give you fulfillment, would you be willing to give up everything to achieve that? This is a much harder question to answer because it doesn't just ask what you want in life, it also expects you to count the cost of working towards your goal even if you don't receive accolades from other people for it. We tend to shy away from goals that appear too lofty because anything worthwhile in life requires suffering. If you want to do more with your life than just walk around in motion though, I would suggest pondering this if you haven't already. Preferably, you'll want an answer that's not only specific but also has an end goal you can envision.

I had to walk this fire myself before I realize that asking what I would give up my life for was the question I needed to answer. When I could finally give that answer to myself, it made me a lot less afraid of facing death in order to achieve what I want in life.

Your life matters. It's up to you to decide how much you are willing to sacrifice to achieve your goals.
 
Of course things are not complete shit right now. Most people can eat, have recreational time and aren't all living in slums in the states. I'm not saying it's hopeless or it's 'the fall of humanity'. But it's all a little more aggravating, meandering, gay and pointless than the objectively more harsher times of conflict and strife in some ways. The scary thing is things are bad now but are probably going to get far worse. But nobody really knows when that's going to be, how severe the decline will be and how long it will last.
We have our bread and circuses, but the bread is stale and the circus is boring. Things are objectively easier in terms of surviving nowadays (which may also come to an end), but living is harder. The powers that be want our spirits crushed and rights diminished; they want us to eat the bugs and live in the pod, to reject God and what's good. Persistent omnipresent social engineering is whittling down what traditionally has been the human experience, replacing or warping every bit where possible.

If society is not already past the point of no return then it will be soon. The only solution is never going to be realized because we're all too comfortable and cowardly in the face of our traitors, and frankly, we're outnumbered by their useful idiots.

At the same time, not to be complacent, but we should be grateful for what we have because it could be worse.
 
I think things can get better, and probably will within the next generation or so. But what are people supposed to do in the meantime? How do you make yourself more than a cog or find the same enjoyment or fulfilment you would have even 15 years ago?
You do what you can, when you can, how you can. Want a house? Go to the south where things are cheap and have a job you can do from home that pays well, if you can. Not qualified? Learn a trade that pays well, trade school has less fees.
Want to find dates? Go do hobbies and see if they ever do singles nights. Go hiking, fishing, kayaking. Doesn't matter, go be out and socializing, even if you're an introvert.
We grow up being told we can do anything, we can change the world. No. We really can't, not by ourselves anyway. Instead of dreading life and giving up, push forward as much as you can.

My husband and I have a house we bought at 26, a newer truck, several pets, and while things are a bit tight financially, we aren't drowning horrifically in debt. We didn't take any money from either of our parents, all paid by us and we worked hard to build the credit we needed. It took about 2 years with paying off a credit card to achieve, but we did it. We eat well, we find time to exercise (despite husband working 2 jobs)
Friend of mine, same thing except she got her house even younger at 23 and now has a kid, she's the same age as us. You CAN make a life for yourself. It isn't easy, but nothing worth having is. The only thing you should actually be worrying about is how to achieve those goals. We're drowned out by the news all the fucking time, with no hopes... but it isn't true. Despite the two bigger-ish wars happening, this is a pretty peaceful point in history.
The housing market bubble is about to burst from the stress of Biden reaming land owners. Wait a little bit, pay attention to trends, and hopefully within the next 5 years you can get a place for a reasonable price.
 
Realistically, what is anyone supposed to do in the times we're in to build a decent life?
We've got a lot of big problems on the horizon. Of course times have always been difficult, but a lot of problems we have right now don't seem to have any easy answers. And the people who might have possible answers aren't in a place to initiate the change possible to get them. People can't just keep coping forever.
And even the things that would bring people respite from the drudgery seem to be slipping away from more people. Entertainment is shit, relationships both romantic and platonic seem to be dwindling.
I don't see any way for people to actually achieve fulfillment, romance, community, success or have upwards mobility any time in the near future. There doesn't even seem to be a realistic way to rebel or violently fight back at the system in place. I just keep wondering what is there anyone can do?
Of course things are not complete shit right now. Most people can eat, have recreational time and aren't all living in slums in the states. I'm not saying it's hopeless or it's 'the fall of humanity'. But it's all a little more aggravating, meandering, gay and pointless than the objectively more harsher times of conflict and strife in some ways. The scary thing is things are bad now but are probably going to get far worse. But nobody really knows when that's going to be, how severe the decline will be and how long it will last.
I think things can get better, and probably will within the next generation or so. But what are people supposed to do in the meantime? How do you make yourself more than a cog or find the same enjoyment or fulfilment you would have even 15 years ago?
Welcome to all of human history. Population: everyone who's ever lived.

Do enjoy.
 
Welcome to all of human history. Population: everyone who's ever lived.

Do enjoy.
"Man, if only I lived in a different part of history!" - literally every person who existed alongside the concept of history
Sorry lads, you're here now. Nothing you can really do about it.
 
Nowhere. It’s genuinely over on a societal/civilizational scale. But none of us in any period of our history ever really had a say in that shit anyway, so I don’t think it’s really beneficial in a personal sense to get worked by it. The only thing you can control is yourself and your immediate surroundings.
 
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