Whither "Cancel Culture"?

[JosephStalin]

"Cancel Culture" is likely to continue until some of the ones pushing for the "canceling" are "canceled" themselves, at the rate things are going.

I am not advocating or calling for violence here. However, can easily see this happening. Remember, if you can find their information, they can find yours. If you can follow them home, they can follow you home. Just a matter of time.

For every measure there is a countermeasure, and people are endlessly inventive.

"Cancel culture" may have started with the best of intentions, to publicly expose to ridicule those who have done illegal things, who have acted irresponsibly, or in other dangerous ways. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. "Cancel culture" went off track when used to harm people whose opinions simply don't jibe with the "canceler". The media contributes to this, and stirs it up. Can see people taking direct action against the media, in various ways.

Things never stay static in American culture. I see the backlash to "cancel culture" coming.

 

[round robin]

I really hate that they settled on the word "cancel." It's so dehumanizing and dystopian to imagine "cancelling" a human being. It sounds not far removed from blatantly advocating for murder of political dissidents, honestly.

 

[themasterlurker]

I really hate that they settled on the word "cancel." It's so dehumanizing and dystopian to imagine "cancelling" a human being.

thats the idea

 

[TFT-A9]

"Cancel culture" may have started with the best of intentions

Pressing X to doubt.

Yeah a movement IMO clearly and blatantly designed to exact extrajudicial "justice" and/or chill the idea of voicing an opinion that goes against orthodoxy, no matter how salient or stupid that opinion is, had the "best of intentions". Giving them a bit too much credit, really. It will never stop being funny to me that KF is the monster of the Internet for, of all things, simply chronicling stupidity to laugh at. We don't necessarily want people to stop saying and doing idiotic and/or controversial things, but you better believe we're going to notice them. Just like we notice all the idiots engaging in cancel culture in their hurry to be the one who casts the first stone.

 

[Mal0]

If you're passive when you see people getting taken to kangaroo court, don't be surprised when you get stepped on yourself.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Yeah a movement IMO clearly and blatantly designed to exact extrajudicial "justice" and/or chill the idea of voicing an opinion that goes against orthodoxy, no matter how salient or stupid that opinion is, had the "best of intentions". Giving them a bit too much credit, really.

Just because you disagree with their premises doesn't mean that they don't feel as if they're doing what's right and good. More harm has been caused by people doing the "right" thing in this world than the opposite and for obvious reasons.

 

[TFT-A9]

Just because you disagree with their premises doesn't mean that they don't feel as if they're doing what's right and good. More harm has been caused by people doing the "right" thing in this world than the opposite and for obvious reasons.

Something about roads to hell goes here.

I care little for their intentions and much more for their results.

 

[frozenrunner]

I really hate that they settled on the word "cancel." It's so dehumanizing and dystopian to imagine "cancelling" a human being. It sounds not far removed from blatantly advocating for murder of political dissidents, honestly.

I'm more disappointed by how many stupid fuckers picked up the cutisie euphemism and use it regularly.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Something about roads to hell goes here.

I care little for their intentions and much more for their results.

Well, it helps to understand their motivations in context. It's much easier to discuss an issue with a person when you acknowledge that they're trying to do good and are confused about their premises than just slapping a dismissive label on them and trying to shame them into compliance.

For instance, I'm helping someone learn to drive at the moment. They think that they're doing the right thing by tarrying in the intersection of a road while they "make sure" that they're safe to go, despite the fact that it's obstructing the intersection and inviting a T-bone crash. Instead of calling them a pussy and questioning their intelligence I sympathize with their impulse towards caution and try to drive home the point that their desired result (safety) isn't being served by their approach (undue caution). This shifts the discussion from "You're doing the wrong thing" to "You're doing the right thing in the wrong way".

 

[The Last Stand]

For instance, I'm helping someone learn to drive at the moment. They think that they're doing the right thing by tarrying in the intersection of a road while they "make sure" that they're safe to go, despite the fact that it's obstructing the intersection and inviting a T-bone crash. Instead of calling them a pussy and questioning their intelligence I sympathize with their impulse towards caution and try to drive home the point that their desired result (safety) isn't being served by their approach (undue caution). This shifts the discussion from "You're doing the wrong thing" to "You're doing the right thing in the wrong way".

Do you make appointments for drivers' ed?

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

Do you make appointments for drivers' ed?

Just put it in neutral on a mild slope and it should go right over those eggs, no problem.

 

[Imago]

I'm more disappointed by how many stupid fuckers picked up the cutisie euphemism and use it regularly.

That is their mentality they are children. There was an article published in the NYT recently by one of the Tumblr crowd calling herself "Your faves are Problematic"

https://archive.is/as3VX

Turns out she was a high school student while acting as a cultural scold. I don't blame children for being childish. I want to know why grown adults are participating in this shit and why anyone takes them seriously. They don't buy the products they complain about, listening to them just pisses off paying customers. If I were to guess, cancel culture will end when the corporations remember they like money more then likes. When that happens the blue checkmarks will lose their easy path to influence and will move on to the next thing.

 

[DumbDude42]

It's much easier to discuss an issue with a person when you acknowledge that they're trying to do good and are confused about their premises than just slapping a dismissive label on them and trying to shame them into compliance.

you're not gonna be discussing an issue with these people at all because that would mean publicly taking a position that opposes them and contradicts their position, which is grounds for cancellation, thus any 'discussion' is ended before it even begins.

 

[NerdShamer]

There will always be an antifa thug waiting to milkshake you. A tranny wanting to scream at you for something that you said years ago. An sped who will dox you for posting wrongthink.

Why?

Because this is what happens when you move from protecting the downtrodden to protecting anyone who cries the loudest.

 

[Dom Cruise]

Wow, I just used mobsters as a metaphor for cancel culture yesterday when explaining it to someone.

A mafia style tactic is exactly what it is.

 

[frozenrunner]

Turns out she was a high school student while acting as a cultural scold. I don't blame children for being childish. I want to know why grown adults are participating in this shit and why anyone takes them seriously.

I think you'll find, if you look into it, that it's mostly women participating in it, (and the "men" just follow for pussy). Behaving like a sweet, helpless girl is a luxury that only the most privileged of women can afford.

That's why they do it, IMO. It's about displaying status.

Because this is what happens when you move from protecting the downtrodden to protecting anyone who cries the loudest.

Not really protecting so much as encouraging. If being a victim is virtuous (and it must be if there are only victims and victimizers), why wouldn't people lean into their victim status?

 

[Cyclonus]

I really hate that they settled on the word "cancel." It's so dehumanizing and dystopian to imagine "cancelling" a human being. It sounds not far removed from blatantly advocating for murder of political dissidents, honestly.

I think it stuck after that whole #cancelcolbert nonsense.

 

[NerdShamer]

Not really protecting so much as encouraging. If being a victim is virtuous (and it must be if there are only victims and victimizers), why wouldn't people lean into their victim status?

Well, it's technically virtuous to to help the victims; but we're at the point to where it's normal to fake being the victim because people are attention whores and others are either to dense to see through it or will get cancelled for pointing out that the emperor has no clothes.

 

[FatalTater]

I really hate that they settled on the word "cancel."

I hear it and I think, "Oh no, they're going to take my TV show off the air!"
Then I remember that I don't have a TV show and go about my business.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I feel like this is a cyclic problem we'll have to deal with as long as humans exist. Back in the day it was town gossips with witch hunts (both literally and metaphorically), the church excommunicating you, paying the mafia to fuck people over, etc.. The old politicans of America got into some serious shitfights and smear campaigns. You parents could probably tell you about preinternet cancelings.

I feel like we are just at a new technological point of smear campaigns. They're just easier and faster to do at this point, and slowly, as we adjust to the technology, things will change to be less serious after everyone gets a callout post or twitter users start getting lawsuits of libel on them.