Why aren't there more Environmental/Green right wingers?

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

It seems like every major "Green Energy/Sustainability/etc" party or groups tend to lean hard left, if not explicitly so. Would Republicans benefit if they did a 180 and started supporting green energy as the next big thing?

 

[Chilson]

"Green Energy" has very little appeal outside urban shitholes where retards think electricity is basically magic. Farmers, blue collar workers and every other core demo for Republicans actually understands how electricity is created due to their jobs requiring them to understand it.

It would kill their core demos to even consider it.

 

[Cnidarian]

There are hundreds of real environmental concerns to give, and none of them are carbon dioxide, the only one that matters to the greens.

 

[I Shidded I Farded I Came]

Trump said he'd fast track approval of nuclear plants. Whether anything actually comes of it I guess we will see.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Hunters and 2A groups are usually big conservationists (ignore the lead deposition), and as we’ve seen with most environmental protests, most environmentalists don’t actually care about physically preserving ecosystems themselves, just the concept of “being green.”

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

Although there are exceptions where they are slightly cheaper, and there certainly is a market for various "green" products and resources, green products are generally inferior and more expensive.

Yes, you can run a car on green energy. In some places this might be cheaper and viable, but for most it's economically non viable.

There is a circle of the right wing that believes that environmentalism is a set of insidious lies and deny things like pollution are an issue, but most are more balanced.

For now, green initiatives are still incompatible with other areas of the economy. They're increasingly more viable, and there are times to dip into them like it certainly doesn't hurt to set up a hydroelectric dam if you've got the right spot for one. It's retarded on the other hand to mandate everyone must use green resources when there isn't a viable alternative though, as Greens are often want to do.

Right wingers tend to shun regulation and restricted choice, and green policies live and die by mandatory restrictions. You won't see them entertaining it until it becomes a viable independent choice.

 

[Ashamed of Yourself]

Conservation is Conservative

FKA Republicans for Environmental Protection (REP), ConservAmerica is a Republican/Conservative Environmental group.

The Evangelical Environmental Network
Creation Care

Neither of those are lefty.

 

[Agamemnon Busmalis]

Because right-wing environmentalism is associated with the windmill.

 

[Tablet County]

I don't actually know. You'd think there would be given how much the right romanticizes the pastoral life (not that I'm hating, farming is hard and fulfilling work). Which isn't to say that the right doesn't care about the environment, it just doesn't seem to be as big of a focus for them.
As for why they aren't into windmills or solar, it's because they're into nuclear energy, which is generally environmentally safe so long as the reactor doesn't do a fucky-wucky.

Hunters and 2A groups are usually big conservationists (ignore the lead deposition), and as we’ve seen with most environmental protests, most environmentalists don’t actually care about physically preserving ecosystems themselves, just the concept of “being green.”

Being charitable, I'd say lefty environmentalists are usually more concerned with the environment on a macro level in fitting with their desire for a global community. While I'm sure there are less well known groups who actually do hate China and India for being pollution powerhouses, I think the retarded ones are platformed more often to discredit environmentalism as a whole. And then you have ones like Just Stop Oil, who I am totally convinced are controlled opposition secretly paid for by Big Oil.

 

[Cucktry Roads]

I try to be very environmentally friendly with my lifestyle. Only have to have the city take the trash away once a month, recycle everything I possibly can, and try to steer away from being a consumer. It would be possible for a republican environmental movement to arise but it would have to be anti-bussiness and attach itself to the MAHA movement. Single use plastics need to go since it's just businesses trying to save money. Corporations should have to fund recycling programs for the shit they put into circulation. Plastic bottles need to go and be replaced with glass etc.

Problem is is that the green movement right now is attached to big business grifters (think the USAID shit).

 

[GamerGateSurvivor]

The survivalists love to plant crops and shit.

 

[HeyYou]

I don't think people realize how badly Greenpeace poisoned the well for environmentalism, and still do. They're complete retards and woefully behind the times when it comes to things like nuclear energy. So naturally conservatives organized around opposing them and that did sometimes lead to outright anti-environmental policies on the conservative side. And of course, fracking has always been a sticking point. But by and large pretty much every American was horrified when Silent Spring came out and thanks to Greenpeace continually shooting themselves in the foot, conservative conservationism has started to make a comeback especially with nuclear energy. Conservative women have also pretty much always been pro-animal rights and pro-recycling.

 

[TATE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOODE!!]

ignore the lead deposition), and as we’ve seen with most environmental protests, most environmentalists don’t actually care about physically preserving ecosystems themselves, just the concept of “being green.”

They've ironically created more destruction to the environment in their protests than what they're bitching about sometimes.

Almost a decade ago some eco warriors took umbrage over a pipeline being built and promptly destroyed the environment by leaving over 20,000 pounds of garbage behind and burning materials like plastic and nylon which only exacerbated the problem even more, leaving it up to both the Army Corp. of engineers and the Sioux tribe to clean it up before it got into the very water they claimed to be saving.

 

[Fuck Fags I'm A Homophobe]

I don't think people realize how badly Greenpeace poisoned the well for environmentalism, and still do. They're complete retards and woefully behind the times when it comes to things like nuclear energy. So naturally conservatives organized around opposing them and that did sometimes lead to outright anti-environmental policies on the conservative side. And of course, fracking has always been a sticking point. But by and large pretty much every American was horrified when Silent Spring came out and thanks to Greenpeace continually shooting themselves in the foot, conservative conservationism has started to make a come back especially with nuclear energy. Conservative women have also pretty much always been pro-animal rights and pro-recycling.

ngl, I haven't personally done much research into fracking. is it safe? should we be worried in the long run?

 

[888Flux]

Top soil degradation from the government continuously subsidizing monoculture soy / corn farming: i sleep
Bayer (formerly Monsanto) poisoning the groundwater for nearly all of America: i sleep
DOW forever chemicals: i sleep
Microplastics detected in the human brain: i sleep
IPR and PBR / seed patent systems: i sleep
"Everything I Want To Do Is Illegal" (Totalitarian FDA and USDA restrictions): i sleep
Free, and near infinite clean energy from nuclear fission: i sleep

Muh "climate change":



HURR FUCKING DURRRRRRRR THE ICE CAPS ARE GUNNA MELT GUISE WE ONLY HAVE UNTIL THE YEAR 2000 2015 2020 2025

 

[Drain Todger]

There are hundreds of real environmental concerns to give, and none of them are carbon dioxide, the only one that matters to the greens.

"Is CO2 the only problem we have?"

"Yeap! CO2! Moar solar panel! Moar windmill!"

"What about aquifer depletion, soil erosion, desertification, ocean acidification, peak oil, peak natural gas, peak phosphorus, peak minerals, synthetic fertilizer shortages, nitrogen and phosphorus runoff making algae blooms, microplastics, PFAS, endocrine disruptors, and so on?"

"I don't know what that is! CO2!"

"You don't know very much, do you?"

"We're all gonna DROWN if we don't stop putting out CO2!"

"You're still breathing, so I find that highly unlikely."

 

[LifeAlert]

Because conservatards think wanting to protect the environment and not fucking destroy it by letting corporations rape and pillage wherever they please and pollute the atmosphere is "woke communism". Next

 

[888Flux]

"Is CO2 the only problem we have?"

"Yeap! CO2! Moar solar panel! Moar windmill!"

"What about aquifer depletion, soil erosion, desertification, ocean acidification, peak oil, peak natural gas, peak phosphorus, peak minerals, synthetic fertilizer shortages, nitrogen and phosphorus runoff making algae blooms, microplastics, PFAS, endocrine disruptors, and so on?"

"I don't know what that is! CO2!"

"You don't know very much, do you?"

"We're all gonna DROWN if we don't stop putting out CO2!"

"You're still breathing, so I find that highly unlikely."

Because it is the religion of Science that is de facto in the modern west. It's all virtue signalling. They don't care about actual existential issues. They care about whatever they have been conditioned to by the media, academic, and state apparatus. Much like how identity politics was the kill shot to the anti-WTO, OWS left, "global warming" / greenpeace was the kill shot to any real environmental concerns.

Because conservatards think wanting to protect the environment and not fucking destroy it by letting corporations rape and pillage wherever they please and pollute the atmosphere is "woke communism". Next

Then why the fuck aren't leftists out there championing nuclear energy you dumb cunt. Show me one (1) of them who are focused on anything besides muh "global warming".

 

[Mukhrani]

There used to be, and many still hold to the sentiments of environmentalism. The Sierra Club, for example, used to be deeply opposed to immigration because overpopulating America would devastate the environment. In my lifetime the environmental movement went from advocating for the conservation of endangered species, virgin forests, clean water and air, etc. to a 100% focus on carbon dioxide. It went from being adversarial to big corporations to singing arm-in-arm with them about how the earth is dying because John Q. Public turns his AC on and doesn't live in a shack with frequent brownouts. Most conservatives are still anti-pollution and pro-conservation, but that's not what environmentalism is anymore.

And then you have ones like Just Stop Oil, who I am totally convinced are controlled opposition secretly paid for by Big Oil.

I'm not sure if it's Just Stop Oil, but either that or a similar group was literally founded by a Getty oil heiress.

 

[HeyYou]

ngl, I haven't personally done much research into fracking. is it safe? should we be worried in the long run?

Fracking often fucks up whatever localized environment you do it in, so you weigh the cons of fucking it up with the pros of getting lots of natural gas for energy independence.