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Was it because Bill Murray took his method acting too far and shat his pants on the big screen?
NGL the animation was stellar.
NGL the animation was stellar.
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I really don't think 3D killed 2D in theaters. I think 2D killed itself. Just as we still see plenty of 2D work on television, I think 2D (American) theatrical works could still be a thing. But there was a string of 2D "failures" for various reasons around the time 3D started to take off (Osmosis Jones was one of those) and rather than learn the real reason Pixar was eating everyone else's lunch (compelling and heartfelt stories) they thought it must just be that kids won't sit still for 90 minutes of 2D animation anymore or whatever. I'd really like to see 2D make a resurgence, but the big studios are spooked and the smaller ones never really had the resources for it. Sad, many such cases.Pixar and Dreamworks made CG the hot new thing and quickly killed 2D animation at the box office, so Osmosis Jones just wasn't on anybody's radar when it came out.
I really don't think 3D killed 2D in theaters. I think 2D killed itself. Just as we still see plenty of 2D work on television, I think 2D (American) theatrical works could still be a thing. But there was a string of 2D "failures" for various reasons around the time 3D started to take off (Osmosis Jones was one of those) and rather than learn the real reason Pixar was eating everyone else's lunch (compelling and heartfelt stories) they thought it must just be that kids won't sit still for 90 minutes of 2D animation anymore or whatever. I'd really like to see 2D make a resurgence, but the big studios are spooked and the smaller ones never really had the resources for it. Sad, many such cases.
It did well enough to inspire a TV series so I imagine the box office numbers/budget ratio was a result of (((Hollywood accounting))).
Treasure Planet… Well, okay, that's another point. Around that time the industry also saw the success of anime and thought that they needed to keep up with the times by making their stuff more "adult" and adventurous. So you had Treasure Planet, Titan AE, Atlantis, The Road to El Dorado. And I didn't hate any of those (Titan AE is really flawed but some parts of it are just amazing, like the ice asteroid part) but it turns out it wasn't really where the market was at the time. Meanwhile Pixar's stuff could entertain both kids and adults and still keep things G-rated. Disney tried and in some ways succeeded with The Emperor's New Groove and The Princess and the Frog, but they didn't make money hand over fist like Toy Story 2 and Shrek, so surely the animation must be the problem, right?Oh yeah the quality of writing and storytelling in the CG features was better. Pixar movies could be done in 2D and would still be classics. They just established a new visual brand while the 2D visual brand was in decline. Audiences weren't loving the late 90's Disney films that came after Lion King. Treasure Planet was one of the worst. Then Disney switched to CG for things like Chicken Little, which also sucked. Since Disney was the dominant 2D brand at the time, you could say they killed 2D.