Why do Jews hate Jesus so much?

[Irish Turtle]

Chinese people dont like jesus but they lack the hate jews hold twoards jesus.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Because he's contradictory to their main character narrative.

 

[Brightstar777]

Because they are retarded

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

Because Judaism is a stagnant religion that cannot accept that Christianity has won out, and that the law of Moses has been fulfilled. They cannot accept that their Messiah did not tell them what they wanted to hear.

They cannot accept the idea of all people potentially being first class citizens in the kingdom of God, rather than that honor being open only to the biological descendants of Abraham (moot point, pretty much anyone in the world could potentially be descended from any of the lost tribes of Israel, due to ten of them being scattered abroad and irrevocably losing their national identity millennia ago)

This rejection of Christ is widely seen as their best attempt at retaining their national/ethnic identity, to the point that joining any other religion than Christianity, or giving up on religion altogether and turning to atheism, is far more forgivable than a jew who chooses to convert to Christianity.

 

[Meth Dick]

Because jews are icky

 

[Preacher ✝]

By their nature they are a self absorbed people, to a Jew everything is about them, and other people exist to be exploited for their personal gain.

It's like the old adage about how Italian mothers and Jewish mothers keep children in line. When a child acts up an Italian mother will tell them to stop or she'll kill them, a Jewish mother will tell them to stop or she'll kill herself.

Prior to Christ the Hebrew faith supported this mindset. They were the chosen people, blessed by God to succeed over other tribes. When Christ came along and fulfilled the Old Testament this era ended, and the Jews we have today could not accept the New Testament that placed them as the first among equals in Christ's Kingdom. It was an existential threat to the Jewish power structure, and their whole way of life, yet it was the immutable word of God, truth incarnate.

Faced with this dilemma they had two choices.

1. Accept Christ, put aside their pride, and become Christians.

2. Cope, Seethe, Mald, and wallow in hatred for that which they cannot accept.

If you want to see just how strongly they chose option 2 then I encourage you to look into the life and legacy of Rabbi Yizhak Kaduri.

The short version is that Rabbi Kaduri was the most respected and highly regarded Rabbi in all Judaisim throughout the 1900s. Early in his life it was prophesied that the name of the Messiah (who Jews don't think has come yet) would be revealed to him before his death, and it was! However he wished to die in peace and not see the turmoil his revelation would cause. So he wrote it down on a note only to be read after he passed. Upon his death the note was read and it said Jesus Christ. Jews were so fucking mad that they practically erased him from history and never mentioned him again.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

I mean. How do you think American Christians felt about Mormonism?

Your beloved cherished traditions and absolute truth are mimicked, altered in ways you find profoundly offensive such as changing the meaning of marriage and entry requirements, declare you yourselves to be innately evil and in need of conversion and actively try to destroy your way of live and take over your communities.

Thats pretty much their experience with Christians and Muslims, but worse. Mormons may have chilled the fuck out today about false churches, but a good number of Christians and Muslims still haven't managed this with Jews.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

We do? He's been pretty good at spreading Judaism lite around the globe. We even got the circumcisions back into practice over the last century.

The short version is that Rabbi Kaduri was the most respected and highly regarded Rabbi in all Judaisim throughout the 1900s.

Look at the "Christian" quoting his favorite celebrity rabbi as a source of authority. Seriously, why should the Jews hate Jesus when most Christians are indistinguishable from Jews if they put on a kippah?

 

[Brightstar777]

We do? He's been pretty good at spreading Judaism lite around the globe. We even got the circumcisions back into practice over the last century.

Look at the "Christian" quoting his favorite celebrity rabbi as a source of authority. Seriously, why should the Jews hate Jesus when most Christians are indistinguishable from Jews if they put on a kippah?

You pretty well do

 

[Preacher ✝]

Look at the "Christian" quoting his favorite celebrity rabbi as a source of authority. Seriously, why should the Jews hate Jesus when most Christians are indistinguishable from Jews if they put on a kippah?

Since when is relaying factual events akin to quoting someone as a source of authority? Kaduri had no legitimate authority to be worth quoting over. His sole purpose is to expose the deep seething within the Synagogue of Satan.

All you have is cope.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

Since when is relaying factual events akin to quoting someone as a source of authority? Kaduri had no legitimate authority to be worth quoting over. His sole purpose is to expose the deep seething within the Synagogue of Satan.

All you have is cope.

Speaking of the synagogue of Satan how's things going in the Vatican these days?

That sounds like a cool name for a nightclub BTW.

 

[Preacher ✝]

how's things going in the Vatican these days?

The Gates of Hell shall not Triumph against the church Christ founded.

Your pathetic attempts at slander are as vain and impotent as all of the Devil's works.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

The Gates of Hell shall not Triumph against the church Christ founded.

I think it was less the fallen angels who seethe in hell than the average pew warmer being slightly opposed to sex with children personally as the last straw. Which, considering other religions takes on that is somewhat commendable.

I think it's hard to say there hasn't been a triumph against it in current year though honestly. Gays and divorcees no longer get chased out of town, other religions are observed more than Christian denominations. What's left to remove Christian influence from in the west, being genuinely serious?

 

[Preacher ✝]

I think it was less the fallen angels who seethe in hell than the average pew warmer being slightly opposed to sex with children personally as the last straw.

Satan sure would like it if we all let the sins of bad clergy make us feel justified in the sin of apostasy. He would much rather we put our faith in secular government and the public school system where no such abuse has ever taken place.

Oh, wait...

In all seriousness, you'll find few people with stronger hatred of child abusers than us devout Catholics. That's why the sins of the clergy are so grave to us, and why the scandal is considered the Devil's Masterpiece.

Gays and divorcees no longer get chased out of town

No one comes to the Lord by force. When such things were done in the past it was our shortcomings as sinful humans on display, not the will of God.

Do you really think God wants us to use the sins of others as justification for us to sin against them in retaliation? Is that the example Christ set? Did he not say let he who is without sin cast the first stone?

What's left to remove Christian influence from in the west, being genuinely serious?

There in lies the problem with your thinking. This preoccupation with "the west" as if Christ's Kingdom has bounds.

Had thee eyes to see and ears to hear you'd know that true faith is on the rise. It is the inevitable reaction of the human soul to the sinful broken world. There is no need to force people to come to the Lord, sooner or later they will be drawn in of their own accord, or they will damn themselves by choosing separation from God.



The only way to remove Christian influence is to turn it into tyranny, such is the goal of the rhetoric you employ, agent of Satan.

 

[Karen of Human Resources]

Satan sure would like it if we all let the sins of bad clergy make us feel justified in the sin of apostasy. He would much rather we put our faith in secular government and the public school system where no such abuse has ever taken place.

Let's be fair here. I know not all clergy are bad. I know individual priests don't necessarily represent the entire faith and belief system.

Where I don't think it is fair is to compare is this next to a school. Yes, both are staffed by corrupt officials. Yes, both have orchestrated cover ups and threatened individuals with punishment if they ever spoke about it.

One is an organisation staffed by regular boring humans. The other claims to be the sole infallible instrument of God on earth, to which all obedience must be given even when proven wrong or when acting maliciously.

One ties a noose for its own neck claiming to be and expecting vastly more than the other. The actions and will of one are in no way as comparable or binding as the other, the Church's own teachings impart that.

Do you really think God wants us to use the sins of others as justification for us to sin against them in retaliation? Is that the example Christ set? Did he not say let he who is without sin cast the first stone?

I think I could be clearer with my perception here.

What I see is a claim. That there is an all powerful, all good deity who has set up an organisation against which defiance, non alignment or resistance is a crime worthy of eternal torture. This organisation can kill, maim, fuck and undertake any venture it wishes; in the name that God says it is an organisation of which all must be members.

This is the problem, and it rings of the Epicurian riddle. God requires membership a throughly corrupt and deeply unpleasant organisation. Either he isn't good, or irrespective of the reality of a deity/deities, the Church is making shit up about its role in the world.

I personally think the latter is more plausible.

There in lies the problem with your thinking. This preoccupation with "the west" as if Christ's Kingdom has bounds.

Christianity can appear within any cultural sphere, but it has only been dominant within two cultural spheres. The European, and South American. Both of them have had very different versions of the faith with vastly different priorities.

White Catholic European/North American Christianity has entirely retreated from the public cultural arena.

Had thee eyes to see and ears to hear you'd know that true faith is on the rise. It is the inevitable reaction of the human soul to the sinful broken world. There is no need to force people to come to the Lord, sooner or later they will be drawn in of their own accord, or they will damn themselves by choosing separation from God.

...Where?

Where is it on the rise? The only place on the world where Christianity has seen a meteoric rise post WW2 is South Korea. That's a bit of an interesting one in two respects; the Korean's tend to mimic the cultural practices of their masters, and the one they've taken up is Joel Osteen-style Prosperity Gospel.

There is no need to force people to come to the Lord, sooner or later they will be drawn in of their own accord

This admittedly, is the most welcome development from it all.

Now it's an option, rather than something to be forcibly inflicted on everyone else.

 

[Preacher ✝]

That there is an all powerful, all good deity who has set up an organisation

Matthew 16:18-19 Christ establishes the Catholic Church, invests it with the powers to bind and loose, and declares that the Gates of Hell shall not Triumph against it.
Because Christ is God, and what God says is truth, it means all efforts of the devil to topple the Catholic Church are in vain and doomed to failure.

a throughly corrupt and deeply unpleasant organisation

You can only see things this way if you focus exclusively on the worst of the clergy and ignore all the good the Church has done throughout history and continues to do now. It is an intellectually dishonest piece of slander.

but it has only been dominant within two cultural spheres

if the price of dominance is compromise of principles then its not a goal worth seeking

The other claims to be the sole infallible instrument of God on earth

You misunderstand, as most do, the nature of this infallibility. It does not mean every action the clergy takes is justified, it means our theology is the correct theology. Take for example Papal Infallibility, that can only be invoked under specific circumstances and has not been used since 1950! It has never meant that every opinion a given Pope has is correct.

People get all up in arms whenever the jewish media takes something Francis said out of context as if it was the last straw. Imagine if we had a someone like Pope Stephen VI today. It's genuinely amusing.

This organisation can kill, maim, fuck and undertake any venture it wishes

The Catholic Church is the sinless bride of Christ, but that sinless quality does not extend to the clergy and administration.

Both of them have had very different versions of the faith with vastly different priorities.

Last I checked there are a lot of Catholics in South America, so I reject the notion that they have different versions of the true faith.

White Catholic European/North American Christianity has entirely retreated from the public cultural arena.

>white

As if a nebulous racial concept that means drastically different things to different people is worth anything to God.

This admittedly, is the most welcome development from it all.

Now it's an option, rather than something to be forcibly inflicted on everyone else.

It was always an option, the correct option, but an option nonetheless. Such is the nature of God's sacred gift to humanity, free will. We have the right to choose incorrectly, which is to sin.

God does not want disingenuous worship, and would rather have a single person who truly chooses him over any number of those who do not.

God offers us infinite love and mercy, he wants us to genuinely love him in return, and the Catholic Church's mission is to facilitate this exchange of love throughout the world. To serve the people, not rule over them.

Where is it on the rise? The only place on the world where Christianity has seen a meteoric rise post WW2 is South Korea. That's a bit of an interesting one in two respects; the Korean's tend to mimic the cultural practices of their masters, and the one they've taken up is Joel Osteen-style Prosperity Gospel.

Catholicism specifically is seeing unprecedented growth in Africa and Asia, as well as appreciable growth in Europe. However if you only focus on metrics you don't really get a clear picture of things, just the view those who run metrics want you to see.

In a more spiritual sense one can feel the tides turning throughout the world. Woke progressive nonsense has overstayed its welcome and more people are rejecting it every day.

to which all obedience must be given even when proven wrong or when acting maliciously.

When it comes to matters of faith, it is better to show obedience to legitimate authority, even when that authority is being abused by bad actors, than it is to reject that authority and schism.

As proof of this principle I offer you the entire history of protestantism. While Luther had a few legitimate points (and a lot of illegitimate heresy) by choosing schism over legitimate authority, his schism proved endless. Protestantism opened the door for televangelists and prosperity churches, only in protestant churches will you find ordained women or gay weddings. Meanwhile the Catholic Church has stood for over 2000 years and will still be standing 2000 years from now, just as Christ said.


This got a bit jumbled with the quote order but I'm too tired to fix it. I'm going to sleep now. I pray you find Christ and stop acting as an agent of Satan, which is what you're doing whether you realize it or not.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

As if a nebulous racial concept that means drastically different things to different people is worth anything to God.

Now I understand why you like Francis so much.

The only reason why you dislike Jews is because of our in-group preference. You are incapable of understanding why one should protect their people first.

Catholicism specifically is seeing unprecedented growth in Africa and Asia, as well as appreciable growth in Europe.

Catholicism is growing in Europe only because Christian NGOs are importing converts from the third world.

 

[Brightstar777]

Now I understand why you like Francis so much.
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The only reason why you dislike Jews is because of our in-group preference. You are incapable of understanding why one should protect their people first.

Catholicism is growing in Europe only because Christian NGOs are importing converts from the third world.

or maybe because you faggots want all the power to yourselves

 

[Mr. Frank Einstein Ràtheo]

They aren’t Jews, they’re liars and hypocrites. The Jews’ love of strange women caused them to breed their purity away, and they cling to a lie—even Judah made his family with a Gentile woman. The whole generation and every one that came after has been mixed.

These liars, “rabbis”, are the children of Esau who are trying to take back their birthright through cunning, which they sold to the house of Jacob. They hate Jesus because Jesus is the freedom of all people in their selfless love of one another, united as one body. If all people are free in their unity, then they can’t stamp them out and assert their dominion over the globe.

Yet the world belongs to Satan already, so if men and women will sacrifice themselves for one another then the body of Christ will come together and Esau will be buried for good. Just a matter of time. It’s early on the third day.

2 Peter 3:8, Revelations 3:9, Matthew 23, The Book of Malachi, 1 Kings 11:1-3, 1 Corinthians 12, 2 Corinthians 4:4

 

[Yamaha YM2612]

Because satan is their father