Why do people predict another gaming crash like the early 80s?

[Autistsforuganda2]

I mean, i can understand peoples frustrations with the current landscape of video games. But for the past 5 years, there are people who say that another gaming crash is imminent.

The thing is though, normies and casuals still buy the games in droves and big gaming companys like EA make billions even with mass criticism from the community. 2020 was the most profitable year in gaming history. The crash of 83 happend because people got sick of video games and was overloaded with 50.000 pong and space invader clones. And while there are still clones of certain games these days, there is way more variety then 40 years ago.

Is there something that i am missing here, or is the community just autistic?

 

[JektheDumbass]

"Is there something that i am missing here, or is the community just autistic?"

Don't ask questions you already know the answer to.

Also, don't forget that the chinky ching chongs would buy actual feces for $500 if you made it a microtransaction.

 

[Marissa Moira]

Game crash was a fucking meme

Atari shat the bed, PC gaming was still fine, gaming over in europe was still fine. Sinclair ZX Spectrum continued to exist until after the SNES was a thing.

You had an uninterrupted flow of games when the game crash existed. The Game Crash's severity has been built up mostly due to Nintendo Lore that they single handedly saved all gaming by packing a fucking toy robot with the NES.

Gaming is now very broad and diverse now, when Sega Left the console market it didn't do shit. Having a large company collapse wouldn't have any effect long term because alternatives already exist.

 

[Kahr CW9]

Like the 80's? Simply unpossible. There are too many games, good games, in circulation, distributed across the globe for there to be a crash. Even if not a single new game was developed and released from now until the return of Christ there are enough titles and enough nostalgia to keep the flame going forever.

When people bitch and moan and groan about 'muh gaymmeeesss' and some sort of crash happening they are, frankly, engaging in wishful thinking. They want a crash to happen to punish AAA designers, or they think that, despite the barriers to entry being lower than ever there will be a dearth of interest for developing games. At the very worst, EA will keep making carbon copy shootem lootem arena sportsball farters and lobby congress to import more retards who buy that stuff.

 

[Milwaukee Macho Man]

The biggest thing, IIRC, was that it was becoming so expensive to produce AAA games that a single mistake could put a company under.

Of course, that was before everything started getting bought up by mega corps and we learned just how big of consumerist whores millenials and zoomers really were.

The industry is so big at this point that there will never be a crash like the 80's. The mega publishers will just change direction when something happens, as we've already seen with the adoption of hardcore microtransactions and live services for the big boys, and the relatively new switch to producing "AA" games for the smaller guys.

While I often joke "a crash can't come soon enough", the truth is that anyone who actually wants a gaming crash is a fucking moron who just needs to stop buying IP they've become emotionally attached to and find something smaller and new that they enjoy that hasn't been bought up/tarnished by AAA publishers.

 

[From The Uncanny Valley]

Because the aaa companies are becoming more and more brain damaged as we speak

 

[Cool kitties club]

Game crash was a fucking meme

Atari shat the bed, PC gaming was still fine, gaming over in europe was still fine. Sinclair ZX Spectrum continued to exist until after the SNES was a thing.

You had an uninterrupted flow of games when the game crash existed. The Game Crash's severity has been built up mostly due to Nintendo Lore that they single handedly saved all gaming by packing a fucking toy robot with the NES.

Gaming is now very broad and diverse now, when Sega Left the console market it didn't do shit. Having a large company collapse wouldn't have any effect long term because alternatives already exist.

The games crash was a thing in the home US console market. It didn't magically make every video game go away but it did make the us console market very unprofitable. The idea that Nintendo saved all of gaming is silly but the idea that the games crash didn't happen is equally dumb. When Nintendo brought the famicom to the US they had to do lots of marketing such as the advanced video system (which tried to make the famicom look like a VHS with wireless controllers) and releasing the NES as a toy with gimmicks like Rob and the zapper. No one wanted to sell video game consoles so Nintendo had to do a 1985 test market launch before anyone would think about nationwide retail. Atari even had the 7800 and some games along with a prototype lynx sitting in warehouses that they couldn't sell because there was no market. Atari only sold the 7800 once the NES had shown the market to be viable again. You don't just have Atari and its competitors magically vanish from the market and stop making new product unless there is a market crash. Note on these early Advanced video system ads that unlike Japan where the Famicom is sold on its arcade accurate console ports like Donkey Kong and Galaga the Advanced video system us being sold on everything but video games.

Spoiler: Advanced video system

 

[Marissa Moira]

Because the aaa companies are becoming more and more brain damaged as we speak

Then stop buying the fucking games and play something else.

AAA has nothing to do with quality it has to do with profitability, that's where the term AAA came from. It's about how much money a game makes.

 

[Coolio55]

There was another gaming crash.
Where do you think all the small studios went when we entered the HD era?

Renderware (Basically 2000's unity) was killed around this time and the unreal engine was far more expensive. HD graphics meant that studios had to make more advanced engines to keep up. It was lose lose.

The games crash was a thing in the home US console market. It didn't magically make every video game go away but it did make the us console market very unprofitable. The idea that Nintendo saved all of gaming is silly but the idea that the games crash didn't happen is equally dumb. When Nintendo brought the famicom to the US they had to do lots of marketing such as the advanced video system (which tried to make the famicom look like a VHS with wireless controllers) and releasing the NES as a toy with gimmicks like Rob and the zapper. No one wanted to sell video game consoles so Nintendo had to do a 1985 test market launch before anyone would think about nationwide retail. Atari even had the 7800 and some games along with a prototype lynx sitting in warehouses that they couldn't sell because there was no market. Atari only sold the 7800 once the NES had shown the market to be viable again. You don't just have Atari and its competitors magically vanish from the market and stop making new product unless there is a market crash. Note on these early Advanced video system ads that unlike Japan where the Famicom is sold on its arcade accurate console ports like Donkey Kong and Galaga the Advanced video system us being sold on everything but video games.

IIRC the 7800 was actually held up due to typical Atari/Commodore company shuffling bullshit happening at the worst possible time.

 

[Marissa Moira]

The games crash was a thing in the home US console market. It didn't magically make every video game go away but it did make the us console market very unprofitable. The idea that Nintendo saved all of gaming is silly but the idea that the games crash didn't happen is equally dumb. When Nintendo brought the famicom to the US they had to do lots of marketing such as the advanced video system (which tried to make the famicom look like a VHS with wireless controllers) and releasing the NES as a toy with gimmicks like Rob and the zapper. No one wanted to sell video game consoles so Nintendo had to do a 1985 test market launch before anyone would think about nationwide retail. Atari even had the 7800 and some games along with a prototype lynx sitting in warehouses that they couldn't sell because there was no market. Atari only sold the 7800 once the NES had shown the market to be viable again. You don't just have Atari and its competitors magically vanish from the market and stop making new product unless there is a market crash. Note on these early Advanced video system ads that unlike Japan where the Famicom is sold on its arcade accurate console ports like Donkey Kong and Galaga the Advanced video system us being sold on everything but video games.

Spoiler: Advanced video system

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If you didn't have Nintendo step in all that would have happened was that someone else would have. In 1985 the Ultima series was on it's 4th installment the US still has a large PC game market and has always had a large PC game market, all that would have happened was that PCs would have turned into consoles a few years down the line. PCs have tried for eons to try and ape consoles in terms of simplicity and ease of use, but since consoles already existed it's what stopped them every time. The latest is the Steamdeck, but this shit has been going on for decades.

There was a load of electronics stores that sold PC games alongside console games. Most of them are gone now, but you had a ton of outlets to buy shit that wasn't centered around needing toys. Places like Walden Software, Egghead, COMPUSA, and a load of others.

Hell we suffered a major game crash when toys to life stopped existing. All that fucking retail space became null and void.

 

[Pissmaster]

Hell we suffered a major game crash when toys to life stopped existing. All that fucking retail space became null and void.

pour one out for the video game crash of 2011 when they stopped making guitar controllers and dance pads

 

[TVStactic]

The biggest thing, IIRC, was that it was becoming so expensive to produce AAA games that a single mistake could put a company under.

at this point fuck ups put IP's under limbo and studios get reshuffled around whatever major group they are under.
to think a game crash would happen is not impossible but it's just so slim you might as well look to cure cancer as a better waste of time.
the thing about zoomers and millenials being whores is kind of dumb because companies act on the "we're human too" facade, look at asian gaming market and you'll see similar points to the western gaming market, they all do these things to make the game as addictive as possible while giving small reminders that "you should stop playing and paying for a while" even though that's bullshit.
they know people will get bored of their games eventuall BUT the whales and the addicts, they want these people to waste their entire salaries on their games then act coy whenever some news regarding that ever happens.

Because the aaa companies are becoming more and more brain damaged as we speak

it's nothing personal, just biznes.

 

[Niggernerd]

A bunch of shitty indie games and AAA titles flooding the market like what Atari did.

 

[The Last Stand]

EA, Activision and Ubisoft have made billions in microtransactions. For a crash to happen, they'd have to go broke within a matter of months. That's financially impossible. A few smaller studios would shutter, but video games will still be around.

Hell, with many great games from generations back, preservation will save the video game market.

 

[Marissa Moira]

pour one out for the video game crash of 2011 when they stopped making guitar controllers and dance pads

We're not at the point where speedrunners are killing each other for the last functioning guitar hero controller, but hopefully we can reach it one day.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

that's funny... i could have sworn we were already in one from the 2010s onward.

i mean how else do you explain the tanking of video game sales and AAA company layoffs?

 

[Marissa Moira]

i mean how else do you explain the tanking of video game sales and AAA company layoffs?

Supply shortages, general market shifts, global pandemic.

Activision is going all in on COD it seems if it doesn't work out for them they may just wind up downsizing and doing what Konami is doing and letting companies make games if they buy IP rights.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

There was another gaming crash.
Where do you think all the small studios went when we entered the HD era?

Renderware (Basically 2000's unity) was killed around this time and the unreal engine was far more expensive. HD graphics meant that studios had to make more advanced engines to keep up. It was lose lose.

You tickled my trap card! RenderWare wasn't an engine, it was middleware that dealt with rendering and things associated with it. And maybe Renderware sputtered out and died with Criterion.

 

[Drkinferno72]

Because it’s all variations of battle royals mode now

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

The reasoning behind that online is that due to Culture War sperging, most video games have been diluted and turned into products to consume by, while not focusing on the quality of gameplay.

Most of the big name titles like Cyberpunk and TLOU2 managed to make game developers get too lazy, or get too caught up in industry politics to make video games last longer.

Now fast forward to today, you have more people playing remakes/remasters which are basically underdeveloped ports that are not even close to being playable. Since Sony or Microsoft won’t do much to stop it, it’s now bringing back the days of how emulation used to be a thing.

Spoiler

I predict that game emulation will be so widespread and universal that game corporations will have to do so much to track down modders and emulation providers to try to keep practices on them since no one is buying physical copies anymore. It’s now going more digital as time moves forward. I don’t really approve of it, but it seems that others do.