Why do Reactionaries Think that Being Repressed/Deplatformed Means They're Winning?

new censorship laws, hate speech laws, anti-misgendering laws, etc
On a long enough timeline, these things are far more detrimental to the reprobate. "Orthodox" reactionaries are simply teaching things that everyone believed until World War 2.

These laws are shifting cultural sensibilities such that, eg. it is okay to censor content considered "profane". Normies don't have coherent definitions for such, and the window of time where these things benefit the minority is small.

This is turning politics into a pissing match. Currently, minorities are protected, but when the majority realizes how much these things impact them, they will be turned around to censor the minority.

On a long enough timeline, all these things benefit the reactionary, because the reactionary isn't pushing whitewashed evil like his opponent.
 
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This is turning politics into a pissing match. Currently, minorities are protected, but when the majority realizes how much these things impact them, they will be turned around to censor the minority.
What happens when the "majority" becomes a minority itself?
On a long enough timeline, all these things benefit the reactionary, because the reactionary isn't pushing whitewashed evil like his opponent.
This feels like a bad cope.
 
What happens when the "majority" becomes a minority itself?
You think like a racist. I'm talking about ideology. The world is on a path to being stratefied by ideology, not genetic lineage. The orthodox reactionary position is that God is no respecter of persons.

The German reactionaries of the 1930s kicked the troon can so far down the road that we're only dealing with it now. If only the idiot "Allies" had grasped that the greater evil was the Bolsheviks, the world would be different. But alas.
 
You think like a racist. I'm talking about ideology. The world is on a path to being stratefied by ideology, not genetic lineage. The orthodox reactionary position is that God is no respecter of persons.

The German reactionaries of the 1930s kicked the troon can so far down the road that we're only dealing with it now. If only the idiot "Allies" had grasped that the greater evil was the Bolsheviks, the world would be different. But alas.
I just read your username and now fear for my anus.
 
We don't repress flat-earthers because their ideas have no merit and can thus be easily disproven or safely ignored.

Authoritarians repress ideas that can't be easily argued against logically. So if your opponents would rather silence you than debate on merits, then you know you've struck a nerve.
 
Some people still believe in the ridiculous pendulum swing. What they don't realize is it is a foolish idea that randomly things will just return to the other side of politics, so they let their enemies keep gaining power not realizing, that's not how it works.

So they let themselves be outnumbered, their world shrink,

"Those normies will rise up I swear" they utter under their breath as the normies do no such thing.

Not to get too run on with it: The question becomes will people (whether normies or not) stand up after being pushed too hard, most would assume yes, but it also requires timing to not be "too late." To the point the whole world burns down or is dismantaled because people postponed facing such an issue.

You think like a racist. I'm talking about ideology. The world is on a path to being stratefied by ideology, not genetic lineage
How does the question ascertain anything like a "racist." If the minority pushing an ideology become the majority and
they will be turned around to censor the minority.
How does one know that these outcomes aren't one in the same. The minority replacing the majority and silencing the new minority who stand opposed to said ideology. It plays out the same either way and just as well sounds like a cope or a splitting of hairs, similar vibes to "denying the concepts to own the racists."

Ideology can be pushed by certain groups and demographics far more than others so even the claim of racist thought is pretty much a moot point regardless IF true or not. (You would disagree, and I would disagree with your notion)*Just an example: Arabs and African spread of Islam (ideology) vs. "white spread of Islam"[or Vs. Christianity in the west: As whites shrink so does Christianity] ** It doesn't have to be about race/ethnicity at all merely an example where it can apply.
 
Can you show us some examples of this? I have never seen the phenomenon you describe.
If anything, it's the opposite of what OP thinks. These censorship attempts often trigger the Streisand Effect.
We don't repress flat-earthers because their ideas have no merit and can thus be easily disproven or safely ignored.

Authoritarians repress ideas that can't be easily argued against logically. So if your opponents would rather silence you than debate on merits, then you know you've struck a nerve.
As Tyrion Lannister put it: "If you cut out a man's tongue, you do not prove him a liar. You only show the world that you fear what he may say."
 
How does the question ascertain anything like a "racist."
All I mean is the pattern matches the "white majority replacement" mentalism.

If the minority pushing an ideology become the majority
Sure, but ideology doesn't function like race. A lot of normies are starting to see nonsense like "woke evangelism killed Star Wars / Marvel". We're not dealing with something like race that doesn't change, but rather something that's fluid that will eventually end up being consistent with truth.

sounds like a cope or a splitting of hairs
"splitting of hairs" is an accusation people make when someone is making a subtle argument that they don't grasp, and "cope" tracks likewise. Ultimately, history will adjudicate this. I'm just speculating on what future history will look like, given a reactionary analysis of world history. The patterns don't lie. We are witnessing empire collapse in America. Same happened to Rome. The number of sociological trends coupled to ascendance and collapse of empire that recur between the two examples is breathtaking. One such example, concretely, is societal acceptance of faggotry. At the time of collapse, faggots become pariahs again.
 
All I mean is the pattern matches the "white majority replacement" mentalism.
If it matches and the initial concept isn't wrong maybe the other "mentalism" isn't either. That's a debate for another thread though.
Sure, but ideology doesn't function like race. A lot of normies are starting to see nonsense like "woke evangelism killed Star Wars / Marvel". We're not dealing with something like race that doesn't change, but rather something that's fluid that will eventually end up being consistent with truth.
Normies are reacting with some confusion to the new manager's ideology, the problem is many will still gulp it down or take steps to insure it does replace the truth long term. Similar to modern "All digital future" nonsense. Sure, now that people are having their digital goodies taken away some people are starting to fight it, the problem comes down to did we take too many steps past the line in the sand to ever turn it around. Same with other ideological power struggles occurring in modern times.

In regards to them not functioning the same, I do believe they are intertwined to some level. Even when it comes to superstitious practices, certain races practice "Voodoo" and it's not shared equally same with ideology. You can argue religion/superstitious practice is not the same as ideology and that's fair to some extent but I'd be hard-pressed to say it has no comparative relevance overall.
"splitting of hairs" is an accusation people make when someone is making a subtle argument that they don't grasp, and "cope" tracks likewise. Ultimately, history will adjudicate this. I'm just speculating on what future history will look like, given a reactionary analysis of world history. The patterns don't lie. We are witnessing empire collapse in America. Same happened to Rome. The number of sociological trends coupled to ascendance and collapse of empire that recur between the two examples is breathtaking. One such example, concretely, is societal acceptance of faggotry. At the time of collapse, faggots become pariahs again.
I don't disagree with your notion outright, merely only the part of your argument I contested. The rest I agree so far with.
 
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Normies are reacting with some confusion to the new manager's ideology, the problem is many will still gulp it down or take steps to insure it does replace the truth long term. Similar to modern "All digital future" nonsense. Sure, now that people are having their digital goodies taken away some people are starting to fight it, the problem comes down to did we take too many steps past the line in the sand to ever turn it around. Same with other ideological power struggles occurring in modern times.
Here, we're not going to agree. Your outlook is pessimistic. History is optimistic. Many tyrants in the past have gone to war with truth. I'll mention the Bolsheviks again. But Rome did similar, and history is littered with other examples. In the long run, truth wins, and the censors collapse. Among reactionary influencers, these historical truths are taken all but axiomatically.

As someone who's been in and out of The Scene since the 90s, the "all digital future" advocates still haven't dealt with the systematic liberation of digital content from their shackles. Here's another great example of how utterly powerless these "powers" are. Joe Biden is a perfect figurehead for what they are.
 
They actually don't believe it. They just say it for further grift.

this, but also, everyone loves being a virtuous victim, and getting stepped on means they can LARP as a martyr and pretend like they're engaged in some big dramatic conflict that matters instead of being just another faggot arguing on the internet. it's like crack to narcissistic losers who have no real passions in life to compete with the updoot dopamine rush. this is why every Online Politics Guy is a devastatingly cringe attention whore
 
Here, we're not going to agree. Your outlook is pessimistic. History is optimistic. Many tyrants in the past have gone to war with truth. I'll mention the Bolsheviks again. But Rome did similar, and history is littered with other examples. In the long run, truth wins, and the censors collapse. Among reactionary influencers, these historical truths are taken all but axiomatically.

As someone who's been in and out of The Scene since the 90s, the "all digital future" advocates still haven't dealt with the systematic liberation of digital content from their shackles. Here's another great example of how utterly powerless these "powers" are. Joe Biden is a perfect figurehead for what they are.
My apologies, I should have prefaced, just because I don't trust in normies doesn't mean I'm pessimistic that such an issue in society can/can't be solved. It's why I pose the question "Are we too far past the line in the sand?" My issue is less whether truth wins and whether we are returning to an era of the High priest class dictating truth until that era collapses as well and what may or may not be lost with it. *Generally I believe outliers solve these issues, I bring up normies to present people that follow status quo thus are not the solution to that change.

I agree, such as in said example pirates are doing the job that the mindless advocates pushed, this is why I'm not fully pessimistic, but at the same time I won't assume "the good guys win" in every case either of these ideological clashes.
 
We don't repress flat-earthers because their ideas have no merit and can thus be easily disproven or safely ignored.

Authoritarians repress ideas that can't be easily argued against logically. So if your opponents would rather silence you than debate on merits, then you know you've struck a nerve.
Exactly. There are "safe" conspiracy theories like Flat Earth, Chemtrails etc. which are freely allowed on most platforms, and there are "dangerous" ones like Pizzagate and the JQ which get you banned from platforms on sight
 
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