Why do so many socialist/communists/leftists adopt libertarian rhetoric when it comes the subject of freedom of speech and deplatforming? - "Muh private company can do whatever it wants!"

[Lensherr]

Recently, Kyle Kulinski, a prominent left-wing YouTuber, tweeted that he believes that the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution should be extended to the workplace in order to protect workers from being fired for their speech. Vaush, another prominent left-wing YouTuber, retweeted him saying that he was crazy for holding this position:

The replies to this retweet, and of the original tweet, were filled with people of who I assume are of a left-wing bent saying "But what about racists?":

This is part of a larger trend that includes leftists defending the deplatforming of right-leaning figures from social media with the "It's a private company, they can do whatever they want" line of defense.

Now I’m not a leftist, but it honestly pisses me off seeing leftists act like strategic libertarians and defend corporations when it comes to issues of freedom of speech and whenever the question of how to deal with racism comes up. Vaush and people like him in a lot of ways are neoliberals in socialist/leftist clothing: they talk a big game about how evil corporations are, but at the end of the day they’ll side with woke capital if it means suppressing voices that they don’t like. There are leftists who argue that intersectionalism/idpol is a means of dividing the working class and preventing any significant systemic change, and I’m inclined to agree with that sentiment. Vaush especially has a habit of running apologetics for big tech firms like Google and FaceBook suppressing right-wing voices.

My question is, why do they do this? Are they aware of how defending megacorporations contradicts their leftists principles, or are they simply too dumb to see the contradiction? And if it's the former, how do they justify this contradiction?

 

[KingCoelacanth]

The left takes whatever short term victories they can (and boy do those victories pile up over time). Since the corporations are on the left's "side" with this issue, the left has no problem with defending them for it.
I also notice that the left has arrived at the thought that "freedom of speech" is synonymous with "yelling nigger in public", even though thats already illegal in almost all parts of the US due to profanity laws, the same way you can't go around yelling "fuck" in public.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

...it's an entirely opportunistic embrace of a talking point that will be abandoned the second it is no longer convenient. They don't care about principles or consistency, they care about power, and they see this as a means to acquire it.

 

[Lensherr]

The left takes whatever short term victories they can (and boy do those victories pile up over time). Since the corporations are on the left's "side" with this issue, the left has no problem with defending them for it.
I also notice that the left has arrived at the thought that "freedom of speech" is synonymous with "yelling nigger in public", even though thats already illegal in almost all parts of the US due to profanity laws, the same way you can't go around yelling "fuck" in public.

They seem to believe that people need guidance from some sort of enlightened person/power structure, or else they'll use their freedoms for ill.

 

[Thomas Paine]

Because they are opportunistic capitalists, having been born and bred in such a society.
Also because they are slacktivist contrarians. They don't really want communist ideals or true socialism.
If they did, their precious nintendo, twitter, iphone, bad dragon dildos, etc wouldn't exist as there would be no free market enterprise to innovate them.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

They seem to believe that people need guidance from some sort of enlightened person/power structure, or else they'll use their freedoms for ill.

Marxism built in the "false consciousness," "lumpenproletariat," "wreckers," etc. epicycles into it's ideology to explain why Daddy Karl's prophecies keep not coming true. In cultural Marxism, wypipo fill the role of the hate sink and reason for the constant failure of the Arc of History to bend.

 

[Sicklick]

>This is part of a larger trend that includes leftists defending the deplatforming of right-leaning figures from social media with the "It's a private company, they can do whatever they want" line of defense.

I think they're forgetting the fact that if it weren't for William Shockley, inventor of the transistor and proponent of scientific racism, their computers would still be using vacuum tubes, there wouldn't be any internet nor would they have cell phones or flat screen TVs. There also wouldn't be any Silicon Valley either. If they truly want to fight racism, they would stop using all of the above.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

As with everything else, it's okay when they do it.

 

[Salubrious]

I swear 90% of SJW arguments are "you aren't allowed to talk because either (1) you have privlege or (2) I'm more oppressed than you."

They flat out say that they don't want dialogue; they want to lecture you so that you are "educated." Or even better when it's not their job to educate you, which is the exact opposite of activism.

 

[JEB!]

Big business started putting gay flags over their logos and donate to blm, so the left are now in favour of faceless multinationals that are only focused on growth and profit. You're going to see the left increasingly and indirectly simp hard for capitalism over time just because of that simple lip service.

They're still going to be replaced by cheap immigrants+illegals, so the newfound adoration of the 1% has a funny ending.

 

[Emperor Julian]

Same reasons Conservatives use self-serving rationaliztions.

 

[A Cardboard Box]

They're playing realpolitik. It's the same reason actual "libertarians" screech about "BUT YOU CAN'T DEPLATFORM REEEE."

 

[Melktert]

This is a great idea. i'd love to be able to say nigger all day with no social consequences!

To be serious however:

this is a power play. commies want to draw in more faggots to support their murderous ideology, so they try to appeal to people that they share SOME views with. i.e. generalized social tolerance of libertarians.

 

[Gun Safety]

When the left was out of power 40 years ago they were the champion of free speech, now that they firmly control most major institutions they’re willing to censor opposition and vice reversa for the right.

It’s about grabbing and securing power.

 

[Ita Mori]

My question is, why do they do this?

They're opportunistic, parasitic grifters, that's all.

They don't care about real change or solving anything. They just want money to steal from naive ideologues.
If you cut them a check for $10 million dollars with the catch that they can never spout politics again, they'd take it and shit on everything they ever claimed to believe in.

 

[President Joe Biden]

I swear 90% of SJW arguments are "you aren't allowed to talk because either (1) you have privlege or (2) I'm more oppressed than you."

They flat out say that they don't want dialogue; they want to lecture you so that you are "educated." Or even better when it's not their job to educate you, which is the exact opposite of activism.

You know who else shuts down when they hear things they don't like? Toddlers. When you realize that 99% of the time you're just dealing with people who never grew up, it makes it easier to talk around them. It's reflected in the media choices, eating habits, lifestyles in general.

 

[Synthetic Smug]

They're totalitarians on good behavior, nothing more.

 

[Terrorist]

They won and consistency is something only losers have to do.

 

[The Curmudgeon]

They're ironically using the free market to push totalitarianism on the American public. They can't overthrow the government, this is the next best thing.

 

[Smug Chuckler]

because nobody likes authoritarianism when the boot is on their neck?