Why do the Zoomies/Millennials generally value convenience more than anything else? - and will it be the doom of US?

[UmQasaan]

When you look at how there have been thousands of exposees, documentaries, and statistics of the severity of data harvesting, privacy invasion, censorship, and general greed by Big Tech comapnies, you'll notice that people tend to complain on social media, then forget about it a month to a week later. This is especially prevalent among zoomies who have all the fact and outrage, but lack the action that is required to do such things. It's as if it is too inconvenient to make small sacrafices for what they believe in. Big Tech gets away with it not only because it's allowed by people, but it's in demand that the younger generations want more convienient things.

This is what worries me the most when people say China won't have more global influence. They know that despite what the millennials and zoomers say, they ultimately want things cheaper, quicker, and more conveniently. It's why things like Shien and TikTok have exponentially taken off in the west despite the unethical labor practices and invasive data analyzing algorithms. It's just a taste of what is to come because that is what is wanted now a days. Considering things like super apps, alipay, and facial recognition are incredibly advanced in china due to mass data collection, I don't think it's far fatched to say that something like that could very well waltz its way into the USA if it's simple, quick, and affordable.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

Because when you have everything you think you need and most of what you think you want, all that's left is how fast you can get it.

 

[PipTheAlchemist]

I saw this coming, ever since the start of the rise of Facebook. When Facebook started getting popular, it encouraged the general public to ditch the old internet wisdom of "Don't use your real name/irl details online", in favor of being able to find irl friends/family more easily. I knew since Day 1 of Facebook being opened-up to non-university users that there was something very suspicious about this site, and made damn sure to stay the hell way from it
Nowadays in 2022, we now have literal arms of the CCP collecting data on western citizens, and hardly anyone is batting an eyelid over it. Even the ones that do still refuse to stop using TikTok and other data-harvesting social media sites. When it comes to internet privacy, I am not looking forward to the future

 

[Divine right to rule]

I don't think that this started with the millenials, that has been a trend since after WW2, in Europe a generation later, because we had rebuilding to do before that.
I think the millenials are a generation that is obsessed with finding meaning and purpose, that's why it is full of crazy left wingers, GenX did the empty hedonism and consooming before us, but they are way less political. The Millenials also spawned the first right-wing counter culture since the interwar period, Identitarianism and the different streams that formed the alt-right.
I think the Zoomers are also quite political, but I think there is more resignation in them, may have to do with the armageddon culture in politics, school and media that tells you that humanity will die soon because of climate change, and imagine hearing that from kindergarten onwards.

 

[Papa Adolfo's Take'n'Bake]

What kind of Utter faggot says "Zoomie"?

 

[HyperboreanRightsActivist]

Because opsec is becoming increasingly more difficult and inaccessible for private parties to maintain, and increasingly easier for governments and corporations to breach. No one wants to spend more money than they're worth on security measures that'll become obsolete in 3-4 months. Not buying into the cult of convenience is one thing, but putting up with automatic facial recognition scans because consumer electronics companies have installed countermeasures in your devices to circumvent the user's control of the device is just another price to pay for living in the modern world. Owning electronics is a zero-sum game, given that smartphones are on perma-lease by both the manufacturer, the OS liscence-holder, the data provider and the EU/FCC

 

[Little oak tree]

It's funny because it's the old people the ones that give more personal information and get scammed more easily online.
Get down from your pedestal chap, it's not the younger generations, it's everything.
Just life and the adaptations we develop for it.
If your generation or whatever had more perceived convenient things, they would want them too.

I think the millenials are a generation that is obsessed with finding meaning and purpose

Oh yeah, humans have never done that, pretty weird right

 

[Super Sad Smile]

It's too hard of a concept for people to understand. Most people only think of it as a net benefit, ie youtube recommending you similar channels and videos. They don't think beyond that, since tech companies aren't stupid enough to announce what they plan on using it for. This makes it harder for users to connect the dots on how having that data will be used against you.

 

[Bored Gamer]

People tend not to care about security until they need it.

 

[Circular Square]

Too many choices lead to decision paralysis which can be solved by an authoritarian cutting off choices or an algorithm offering you choices you would be happy to choose. Media, schooling, careers, it has never been so easy, which is why when there is any difficulty it must be extinguished. All the potholes have to go away. All the roadblocks too, the road must be smooth and tailored made for the driver so he can consume.

 

[Kosher Snake]

Too many choices lead to decision paralysis which can be solved by an authoritarian cutting off choices or an algorithm offering you choices you would be happy to choose. Media, schooling, careers, it has never been so easy, which is why when there is any difficulty it must be extinguished. All the potholes have to go away. All the roadblocks too, the road must be smooth and tailored made for the driver so he can consume.

in other words, globohomos peddle their invasiveness as "convenience" and bugmen eat it up, then bugmen demand more convenience so the globohomos are happy to oblige
vicious cycle I say, in which one shouldnt ask "why did it happen" but instead "how do we get rid of it"

 

[Basic Blonde Boy]

I am definitely more conscious of this stuff, but being real, you have to at this point. Zoomers are not the only ones obsessed with tech as Boomers, and especially X, are also attached to tech. The older gens that came into the online space during FaceBook have basically made it a priority for the young to be online. I am going into tech, and have been told multiple times that I need a LinkedIn and I need to be consistently posting for companies to find me worth hiring. Getting into the dating scene, you need posts on Instagram to prove you are real. When a lot of your career prospects and social prospects are attached to the internet, don’t be surprised when many throw out their morals to be a part of it.

There is also the fact that many simply don’t give a shit. X was big on online data being private back during Bush’s term, but now fill their houses with Ring devices, Alexa’s, and any spy camera you can think of. The convenience is worth it to them and they act like you are weird for not joining. I feel like Z will be better, as in not buying a thousand camera/voice devices, but they will be attached to social media.

 

[hellogoodmorning]

I think the Zoomers are also quite political, but I think there is more resignation in them, may have to do with the armageddon culture in politics, school and media that tells you that humanity will die soon because of climate change, and imagine hearing that from kindergarten onwards.

My mother warned me about the future since I was three years old. It's disconcerting to wonder how much of my adolescent politics and identity came from attempting to reconcile building a future for myself and thinking that there'd be no future at all, and the same left-wing ideologies I supported in high school are generating crises of their own, such as cancel culture and a looming police state.

The world is bleak.

 

[Baked Al-Aqsa]

Basically it's I gOT NuTHin 2 hIDe!

Also, all generations are guilty of this; not just Zoomers. Bugmen were always and will always be a thing.

 

[Wesley Willis]

This all started right here with PayPal. Blame Peter Thiel and Elon Musk. And Jeff Bezos, as Alibaba directly copied his business model only a few short years after Amazon was founded. They even have a cloud service and an entertainment division which has a huge deal with Tencent for content streaming. None of this was created by anyone from those generations. JD.com is actually bigger and started before Ali.