Why doesn't the US just take Mexico?

[SandyCat]

Who cares about sanctions? Think about all the tacos, drugs and illegal fireworks we could get

 

[millais]

US Congress asked themselves that question in 1848. They didn't want to give citizenship and voting rights to that many papists in one fell swoop.

Same reason why the Continental Congress didn't bother to make any serious efforts at getting the French Canadians to join the rebellion after the failed invasion of Quebec.

 

[Santa Fe Swag]

Mexico is actually cool as it's own country. We should take Canada, they don't really have anything to offer culturally except Terrance and Philip and the citizens dont even have the big guns anymore so its not like they'll fight back. If anything we'll be liberating them.

 

[MadStan]

LOL.

Mexicans are tough mutherfuckers. Shit, try and invade that and their gangs will join forces with all citizens and unite - do not doubt it. We all have our differences but challenge the countries sovereign nature and it makes the worse enemies bed fellows.

They'd make Afghanistan or Vietnam look like a fucking picnic. They'd do things that would make the Russians throw up and the shame the Devil himself.

 

[Epic Fail Man]

I have a similar question but with Canada.

 

[Testacles Maximus]

Wrongthink on Facebook down there gets you turned into a torso hanging off a bridge, no thank you.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

Why should the US do that? It already has its tendrils all over the planet in all kinds of countries, it doesn't have to explicitly take over anything to exert a huge amount of influence. It's probably better not to in fact; if the US explicitly owned Mexico, then it would be responsible for the well being of the country. As it stands the US can take whatever the hell it wants and wash their hands of anything they don't while playing innocent the whole time.

There are a lot of places in the world that the US doesn't own in name, but does in practice, and that's exactly how the federal government wants it.

 

[Testacles Maximus]

and that's exactly how the federal government wants it.

“...Isn’t that unethical?!”

 

[murph]

LOL.

Mexicans are tough mutherfuckers. Shit, try and invade that and their gangs will join forces with all citizens and unite - do not doubt it. We all have our differences but challenge the countries sovereign nature and it makes the worse enemies bed fellows.

They'd make Afghanistan or Vietnam look like a fucking picnic. They'd do things that would make the Russians throw up and the shame the Devil himself.

Their national anthem is pretty badass.

Mexicans, at the cry of war make ready the steel and the bridle; may the Earth tremble at its core at the resounding roar of the cannon.

Something, something, something,

Your destiny is written by the hand of God, but if an enemy dare profane your soil with his foot, remember that He has blessed you with a soldier in every son.

War! To any who dare profane your coat of arms.

War! May their flags be soaked in oceans of blood.

War! In the mountain, in the valley, may the cannons thunder in terrifying unison, and echoes resound with cries of "Union!" "Liberty!"

Fatherland, before your children are disarmed, bend the enemy's neck beneath the yoke.

May your fields be watered with blood, may their feet be soaked in blood.

There's more, it has a lot of Don't Fuck With Us energy. I like it.

 

[Idiotron]

Because there are 130 million Mexicans and they would leave Mexico immediately in order to live in the more prosperous US cities.
You would literally have a situation where 1 in 3 people in the US would be Mexicans who don't speak English, you would have cartels all over the US, crime would skyrocket etc.
Would you really want that?

 

[Certified_Autist]

Because there are 130 million Mexicans and they would leave Mexico immediately in order to live in the more prosperous US cities.
You would literally have a situation where 1 in 3 people in the US would be Mexicans who don't speak English, you would have cartels all over the US, crime would skyrocket etc.
Would you really want that?

Everything you described is already happening, just gradually.

If anything, annexation might be a net positive specifically for the exact reasons you describe. My understanding is that much of Mexico's current issues stem from their government and police being weak and incompetent. If Mexico was an extension of America, patrolled by American cops/military, and getting the political/economic benefits of being American, then maybe it would become a decent place to live and Mexicans wouldn't be running north at the same rates they are now. Also worth noting a large chunk (possibly the majority) of illegals come from south of Mexico from places like Guatemala and El Salvador. If you want to build a wall to keep illegals out, the southern Mexican border is tactically superior to the northern one, as it is far shorter and easier to defend.

To answer the OPs original question, @millais explained this at the top of the thread, but the main downside/reason annexation was never done, is the major religious and race differences. Mexico is mostly populated by brown people who are Catholic, and America prior to the Hart-Cellar act of 1965 was mostly white and Protestant. America was only able to annex Texas by sending enough white Protestant settlers to those areas to outnumber the Mexican population. ( a "great replacement" if you will). Annexing Mexico that way would have been a tall order even back then, and is flatly impossible today.

Although if this hypothetical annexation scenario actually happened, I could see a lot of Americans moving south for the cheaper cost of living, which would make Mexico become more American. But certainly not to the same extent as the settling of the West.

TLDR, it will never happen because the America of the 2020s does not have the same political will for Manifest Destiny as the America of the 1830s.

 

[Caesare]

Canada would be both easier and a better investment. In fact, it would probably be a bloodless annexation with Canada because really, what are they gonna do? Besides, you don't wanna have to govern a bunch of Mexicans. They wipe their ass and throw it in the trashcan. Why would you want to have to deal with that?

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Mexico is fine as it's own country. The United States should just take Canada since Canada is already a gigantic California but with french retards.

 

[Cupronickel]

this country is terrible enough as it is, and i don't think inviting 128 million taconiggers would make things any better.

 

[Alligator Alcatraz]

Canada would be both easier and a better investment. In fact, it would probably be a bloodless annexation with Canada because really, what are they gonna do? Besides, you don't wanna have to govern a bunch of Mexicans. They wipe their ass and throw it in the trashcan. Who wants to deal with that?

...homie, anyone with a septic tank has to throw toilet paper into the trash. A good portion of the USA barely has internet access. Countries like Mexico are able to quickly adopt 5G, fiber, and other modern technologies because they do not have preexisting infrastructure to interfere with decisions. For fuck's sake, all it took was a storm to knock out Texas' infrastructure whereas peoples of the equator know how to build for storms as strong as hurricaines.

 

[BelUwUga]

Mexico is actually cool as it's own country. We should take Canada, they don't really have anything to offer culturally except Terrance and Philip and the citizens dont even have the big guns anymore so its not like they'll fight back. If anything we'll be liberating them.

Liberating? When the day of the rake comes we'll be raking those leafs off of this mortal coil. God I hate Canadians. Edit:

...homie, anyone with a septic tank has to throw toilet paper into the trash.

What in the unholy fuck are you talking about?! Septic tanks can handle toilet paper which is designed to break down and dissolve fairly readily. Seriously, saturate a square of TP and a Kleenex and you'll be amazed at the difference in characteristics. Now if you are abusing a septic system by exceeding its capacity and not pumping it to compensate some TP may bubble up but that is the least of your concerns. If your used TP winds up anywhere other than flushed down the toilet, you're a fucking animal to me. Worse than the queerest Canadian there is.

You understand that the ancient Romans not only mastered the aqueducts but also sewers? They did a weird sponge-on-a-stick thing because paper was not available then but their communal commodes were powerful enough that people fell in, were carried away, and drowned. People that couldn't figure out pants had this shit figured out. Seriously I need to know you're trolling here or something.

 

[Caesare]

homie, anyone with a septic tank has to throw toilet paper into the trash

I know that's what you amigos tell yourselves, but it's just not the case in places where the infrastructure isn't terrible.

https://www.mrrooter.com/greater-syracuse/about-us/blog/2017/july/what-you-need-to-know-about-toilet-paper-and-sep/

The truth is toilet paper is designed to be flushed, and there is no evidence that your septic tanks will have any difficulty filtering out standard toilet paper. You may continue to buy your favorite toilet paper and flush it with impunity,

A good portion of the USA barely has internet access.

The United States is huge and a "good portion" of it lives in the middle of nowhere. Mexico's population is much more centralized in a few large, densely populated areas. See, like 70% of the population looks like it's in and right around the center, by Mexico City. It's 2022, I think even Mexicans could figure out how to get internet to the most densely populated section of their country where probably 70 million people live.

But the USA is vast, and has a lot of empty space with population centers spread out in the middle of some of those empty spaces. Despite this, I'm willing to bet you can still get internet access in any of those spread out population centers. But sure, if you live in the middle of Wyoming (the state in the NW that's just a square), yeah, I'd agree that you'd probably have some issues getting high speed internet.

For fuck's sake, all it took was a storm to knock out Texas' infrastructure whereas peoples of the equator know how to build for storms as strong as hurricaines.

Sure looks like it.

Hurricane Manuel 2013



Something else I thought about. Isn't Mexico pretty hilly and mountainous? I'm sure that saps a lot of the hurricanes power and severely limits the overall destruction it causes. The places in the USA that get fucked up by hurricanes (the Gulf Coast) are completely flat. The hurricanes can just roll on through with nothing to break up the devastating winds.

For fuck's sake, all it took was a storm to knock out Texas' infrastructure whereas peoples of the equator know how to build for storms as strong as hurricaines.

And wait a second, it was a freak ice storm that wiped out Texas infrastructure for awhile. I think I can understand why that happened, Texas isn't known for their snow. They get hurricanes once in awhile too, and I'm sure downed power lines knocks out the power for a time, but I'm sure they can handle it. I live in New Orleans, I've been through a few hurricanes. If corrupt, piece of shit, quasi third world New Orleans can get our power back on in a week after a hurricane, I'm sure Texas has it fixed in a day or two. The bad freeze that knocked out their power for a week or so, I can cut them some slack on that. They probably didn't consider week long freezes and snow on the ground when they designed their infrastructure.

 

[Nazrin]

Heyy Esse, we hard workers holmes.. our food is amazing holmes.. beans flour tortillas lettuce!

We already have issues with mexicans in our country. We don't need more in the United States.

LOL.

Mexicans are tough mutherfuckers. Shit, try and invade that and their gangs will join forces with all citizens and unite - do not doubt it. We all have our differences but challenge the countries sovereign nature and it makes the worse enemies bed fellows.

They'd make Afghanistan or Vietnam look like a fucking picnic. They'd do things that would make the Russians throw up and the shame the Devil himself.

Afghanistan and Vietnam were both across the world btw. There's a huge difference when it's right next to us.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

We don't want it.

Now Canada, I would be OK with annexing, but all the Chinese and non-Sikh Indians have to go. As for the Quebecois, eh form your own nation-state or shut up. However, I have no real problem with them speaking deranged frog if they want.