Why don't political mass shooters have specific targets?

[Marco Fucko]

Why do politically charged mass shooters always walk into an area with a tactical carbine and shoot up a generalized demographic of people? Why not use a rifle optimized for longer ranges or a bomb and go for a specific person who is responsible for their particular political grievance? They're only going to get one shot at it before they die or get arrested, they might as well go for action of actual consequence. To quote the most prolific mass shooter:




I dunno, just seems dumb to me.

 

[Ягода]

you obviously skipped or flunked Attention Whoring 101

 

[Coconut Gun]

Planning for the future is probably not your strong suit if you're a political shooter.

 

[Piss Clam]

Because most of them don't know how to shoot a rifle/gun.

Charles whitman did.

Charles Whitman - Wikipedia

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During Whitman's initial 18-month service in 1959 and 1960, he earned a sharpshooter's badge and the Marine Corps Expeditionary Medal. He achieved 215 of 250 possible points on marksmanship tests, doing well when shooting rapidly over long distances as well as at moving targets. After completing his assignment, Whitman applied to a U.S. Navy and Marine Corps scholarship program, intending to complete college and become a commissioned officer.

Lee harvey Oswaled did.

Lee Harvey Oswald - Wikipedia

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Like all marines, Oswald was trained and tested in shooting. In December 1956, he scored 212, which was slightly above the requirements for the designation of sharpshooter.[21] In May 1959 he scored 191, which reduced his rating to marksman.

 

[Eryngium]

People who go on political mass shooting usually aren't usually aren't in the best mental state, ptsd stricken army people, bullied kid with mental issues and takes anti-depressants that are working a little too well, and people in dead ends in life.

If a person was smart enough and completely calm collected enough to construct an effective and well thought out mass shooting on a large scale without getting caught beforehand, they are probably going to be some ex-military dude who ain't in the best state of mind or someone who has so many opportunities open to them in life it would be foolish to throw it away, or someone just taking orders from an organization.

 

[Heartmoth]

Why do politically charged mass shooters always walk into an area with a tactical carbine and shoot up a generalized demographic of people? Why not use a rifle optimized for longer ranges or a bomb and go for a specific person who is responsible for their particular political grievance? They're only going to get one shot at it before they die or get arrested, they might as well go for action of actual consequence. To quote the most prolific mass shooter:

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I dunno, just seems dumb to me.

Not only is it an issue that people in one political group will become more adamant in their beliefs when they perceive themselves as victims, (Shootings literally make victims out of people.) killing people of political influence is an even worse idea because it creates a strong message of martyrdom. JFK was popular for sure, but he would've been less famous and popular had he not been assassinated. Because he was killed, he became even greater among the public's most revered presidents, up there with the likes of Lincoln (also assassinated), and Theodore Roosevelt.

 

[pomme]

Because successfully targeting a person of influence and power would take actual skill and planning. The types of people who try and commit these mass shootings are most likely braindead social tards who like to believe that they're changing the course of history, when in reality they're just killing a bunch of random, innocent people.

 

[Sīn the Moon Daddy]

someone who has so many opportunities open to them in life it would be foolish to throw it away

This.
Someone that intelligent would normally be able to figure out other ways to have their grievance heard.

 

[Recoil]

I imagine it's like doing graffiti. You practice your style and your can control and your escape routes for weeks, days. You have that image you plan to paint in your damn muscle memory. You're ready to go, so you you pack your bag and make your way to the spot. Alone in the dark 3 am in the morning, you're scared and unsure... So your piece comes out only a fraction of how good it looked on paper.
Any good graf piece you see is only a shadow of what that artist is capable of under ideal conditions because the nerve required to maintain your vision is INTENSE. Apply that to a plan for mass murder. By a complete noob.

Of course shit's gonna go off the rails. These are frustrated losers, not conditioned operators.

 

[AF 802]

I thought they were all just raging incels mad that they couldn't fuck Stacy.

 

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[Immortal Technique]

"Political" mass shootings? I would say the majority that you're lumping into that category was a mass shooting that others turned political.

 

[Pop-Tart]

Because most mass shooter are utter shit and do not know how to properly shoot, move, or kill en masse. They do it out of pure emotional drive then any actual practical logical thought train on how to get a high kill count. Hence why political shootings typically do better. That and political shooters know to get training or have a means of getting it.

Good example. The black guy in Texas that killed a bunch of cops. He literally was just a reservists that had very basic MOUT training. But compared to your average couch cuck or randy stair that is a mountain of difference. He was also going against hard armed targets. Most emotional shooters just run when confronted with any form of armed push back. Because they don't know how to actually deal with it.

There are so many rage based shooters that literally just give up when their gun has a simple stove pipe jam. Because they have know idea what they are doing or the optimal way to do it.

This all ties into how to all emotional and not logic thing. It’s typically all driven by a general hatred of society this is the same thing that drives incels. The root causes is though to be societal isolation and fragmentation. This tends to happen in large modern societies that have bucked certain traditional aspects of community. At least this is my basic understanding.

Also an on the topic example for the hate society thing from China https://archive.fo/t64SU

inb4 ron/pol/ shit posts in here

 

[AF 802]

"Political" mass shootings? I would say the majority that you're lumping into that category was a mass shooting that others turned political.

Or ones that the media has made into a "political" move because of some one sentence post they made on a right-wing subreddit 3 years ago.

 

[Sm0kINHaZefEEliNBlaZEd]

Why do politically charged mass shooters always walk into an area with a tactical carbine and shoot up a generalized demographic of people?

Because all mass shooting that falls under the auspice of politics don't really do that. People like Chris "can't corner the" Dorner, that kid who shot up the dindu church and Brandon Tarrant aren't targeting a generalized demographic. Their targets are very specific. But in a more generalized sense of 'why do a mass shooting anyway', probably because it's a meme that allows autists to express their existential angst.

 

[Pop-Tart]

Also for the record just because they use tactical shit, doesn't mean its the best shit for the job, or that they know what they are doing. Pic related. Guy who got a negative KD.

As for why not bombs? Mass attacks go through trends of what is cool to do. Bombs used to be a lot more popular in the US historically. But then mass shooting got all the attention so that became in vogue. In other places trucking are the thing to do for high kill counts over shootings, stabbings, or bombings. But its a whole host of factors.

I can provide you with links or stuff if wanted.

 

[kadoink]

Didnt that troon who shot up her high school have specific targets?

 

[Absorbed]

Why do politically charged mass shooters always walk into an area with a tactical carbine and shoot up a generalized demographic of people? Why not use a rifle optimized for longer ranges or a bomb and go for a specific person who is responsible for their particular political grievance?

If we ignore the attention part, mass shootings are about sending a message.

Sure, killing say a head of a party/movement/whatever does send a message, but in most cases will not kill the movement itself, and mass shooting works just as well at sending a message, it gets roughly the same media attention, and it spreads more fear and division among the general public.

Say you were a muslim in america, what would make you feel less unsafe, if someone killed Ilhan Omar during a big speech or if someone shot up a mosque on a completely casual occasion? I'd say the latter.

 

[Marco Fucko]

If we ignore the attention part, mass shootings are about sending a message.

Sure, killing say a head of a party/movement/whatever does send a message, but in most cases will not kill the movement itself, and mass shooting works just as well at sending a message, it gets roughly the same media attention, and it spreads more fear and division among the general public.

Say you were a muslim in america, what would make you feel less unsafe, if someone killed Ilhan Omar during a big speech or if someone shot up a mosque on a completely casual occasion? I'd say the latter.

That's a pretty debatable point. On one hand you're personalizing a common person's fear by making them think it could happen to them, on the other you are explicitly saying "no" to whatever that politician represents. The Japanese socialist assassination, for instance. I will say the former is more useful for purposes of manipulation, which is probably why some of these shooters get accused of being government actors by the same type of people they sympathize with.

 

[Rand /pol/]

Like people have already said for a lot of political shooters the politics have very little to do with the actual shooting, it's just impotent range over their virginity or whatever, it's more about the attention. Any retard with some planning skills could hypothetically do a lot of damage. Look at the case of a rouge ANA soldier assassinating a general