Why is Dooming so Popular on Kiwifarms? - The meta discussion

[JambledUpWords]

So, this isn’t a new trend in the slightest. I’ve observed it for a while and it seems to have become worse over time. I understand the feeling of hopelessness, it happens to everyone. What got me out of that mindset was looking at what good there was. Having a family that cares for me, a good relationship, and a church to go to every week are a few things that bring me joy. Hobbies like cooking and music have given me pleasure. I might have been born in one of the worst possible times as far as buying a house goes. A bit too young to buy when the market was cheaper, but now the normal age and the market is hyperinflated. I refuse to let that stop me from living a great life.

This brings me to what I see on the Farms. Many will go “everything is lost, the bad guys won” or “this world sucks and it makes me dread the future.” These again are normal thoughts to have once in a while, but it’s unhealthy to dwell on them. If you want to make yourself more miserable, dwelling on thoughts like these isn’t helpful. Big political events, whether it be elections, pandemics, riots, etc. tend to make people especially prone to this thought process. I actually have stopped reading most mega threads in Happenings because pages of it are just dooming.

I see this on social media at times as well, but not as concentrated as here. It feels almost pointless at times to discuss politics with doomers because it’s the same variation of “everything is hopeless.” It’s nothing new to hear and it offers no solutions. The world I’d hate to live in would be one where everyone doomed at all times. Dooming doesn’t encourage action and typically involves waiting for someone or something else to solve the problems for them. Additionally, it’s demoralizing against anyone that does at least want to try something.

What do you think? Is this a phenomenon that’s popular on the Farms specifically, or do you think it’s more widespread?

 

[Troonos]

Because we get a concentrated IV drip of all the horrible sociopolitical bullshit destroying civilization.

 

[Shamefur Dispray]

Because being optimistic is too much like hard work.
Fuck dooming and I say that as a pessimistic asshole.
Giving up is for trannies.

 

[The Last Stand]

Complaining on the Internet with no action is easier than doing something productive.

 

[JambledUpWords]

Because being optimistic is too much like hard work.
Fuck dooming and I say that as a pessimistic asshole.
Giving up is for trannies.

Being too optimistic has its downsides. I try to be more middle ground just because it makes things not as disappointing. Though, I’d probably be a doomer if I were a troon. That would be one way to make me a doomer. Self mutilation isn’t worth it and 99.9% of troons don’t pass.

 

[blur]

It is worse here, and that is recent.

KF Social media bubble polluted with negativity in general. We need a consistent positive focal point to counterbalance constant negative news. We need something new at the top that is just a laugh.

Doom posting is just a rhetorical justification for negative emotions. After all, were it so bad that 7 or so people really controlled the world, that would mean you would only need to change 4 minds.

To make doom posting go away we need to lift the spirits of the board, then the reasoning will follow.

 

[Shamefur Dispray]

Being too optimistic has its downsides. I try to be more middle ground just because it makes things not as disappointing. Though, I’d probably be a doomer if I were a troon. That would be one way to make me a doomer. Self mutilation isn’t worth it and 99.9% of troons don’t pass.

Absolutely it does. But being a realist and knowing you have a course of action even if it isn't ideal is better than wallowing in misery.
Gay of me to admit but there's a quote I really like from No Country for Old Men that might not apply 100% to dooming but I think the same concept can be applied.

“All the time you spend tryin to get back what's been took from you there's more goin out the door. After a while you just try and get a tourniquet on it.”​

 

[JambledUpWords]

It is worse here, and that is recent.

KF Social media bubble polluted with negativity in general. We need a consistent positive focal point to counterbalance constant negative news. We need something new at the top that is just a laugh.

Doom posting is just a rhetorical justification for negative emotions. After all, were it so bad that 7 or so people really controlled the world, that would mean you would only need to change 4 minds.

To make doom posting go away we need to lift the spirits of the board, then the reasoning will follow.

This place could definitely use more positivity. I’ll be honest, most of the news stories I put on here aren’t the most positive, but all I really want to do is laugh at stupid journos. It’s actually comical at how bad some are at reasoning.

 

[UtadaWasabi2]

Can't coom in November so I am dooooming instead.

 

[blur]

This place could definitely use more positivity. I’ll be honest, most of the news stories I put on here aren’t the most positive, but all I really want to do is laugh at stupid journos. It’s actually comical at how bad some are at reasoning.

I enjoy the articles you select. Thanks for sharing them.

The site needs a shot in the funny bone. An anti-doomer vaccine if you will.

....And then everyone will need a passport to travel from thread to thread.

 

[Apochrypha]

Because people on this site revel in focusing on the negative aspects of a subject rather than even slightly consider it's positive qualities. During my year here I've come to realize that some people here also have a sort of sheep-like mentality - if one person or two says something is bad, then you aren't allowed to like it and if you're an outlier then you get shit on. Maybe some people here aren't actual doomers and just want to look cool for internet points so they pretend to hate things, which is even worse than being a legit doomer in my opinion...grow a spine. Don't claim to champion free speech then act like shit.

If you're so intolerable that even people on an anonymous internet forum call you out for being an annoying downer, then you should just kill yourself and spare everyone the trouble of having to suffer you. Being a doomer is a pathetic existence.

Though having said that, I would also agree that being an overbearing optimist is just as bad - don't live your life in highs and lows. Leave that to the BPD whores we all like to make fun of.

 

[Homegrown Homophobia]

Because people on this site revel in focusing on the negative aspects of a subject rather than even slightly consider it's positive qualities. During my year here I've come to realize that some people here also have a sort of sheep-like mentality - if one person or two says something is bad, then you aren't allowed to like it and if you're an outlier then you get shit on. Maybe some people here aren't actual doomers and just want to look cool for internet points so they pretend to hate things, which is even worse than being a legit doomer in my opinion...grow a spine. Don't claim to champion free speech then act like shit.

If you're so intolerable that even people on an anonymous internet forum call you out for being an annoying downer, then you should just kill yourself and spare everyone the trouble of having to suffer you. Being a doomer is a pathetic existence.

Though having said that, I would also agree that being an overbearing optimist is just as bad - don't live your life in highs and lows. Leave that to the BPD whores we all like to make fun of.

I love how you bring this up, as I've talked about internet peer pressure a few months ago with a long time internet friend. We're both old SA ex-goons and agreed that the stereotype of goons trooning out was partially being driven by socially awkward and insecure people all trying to out-do each other in a never-ending purity spiral for internet weirdo points even if they were literally destroying their lives in the process. I was complaining to him about how you see the same phenomena in internet right wing circles (He's not right wing) with doomerism, and definitely think it's the same bullshit as what the troons are doing but with a different stink.

Dwelling on bad news 24/7 isn't good for you at all in the least, and definitely stepping away from the internet helps a lot.

 

[OutInTheRain]

People bitch and that can lead to a self reinforcing spiral as people feed off of each other. When I feel bad about the world. I got to the Patrick Tomlinson thread and that piggy bastard never fails to lift my spirits. Most of the non-troon, non-furry lolcows always cheer me up a little(those groups just horrify me). Because I'm not them. I know that no matter how bad my life is, I know I'm not MovieBob, Ethan Ralph, or Matt Jarbo, SInseer. I know that my lowest low, has never been as shitty as the baseline existence of so many people featured on this site, have to live as their everyday.

 

[Tree]

It helps to differentiate between saying some worldview is unrealistic and therefore doomed and saying "all hope is lost".

I'm not sure I'd call someone a doomer when they're telling you you're going to drown if you stay on a ship that was designed to sink as opposed to "you're going to drown no matter what".

 

[The Big O]

I admit I'm often guilty of being a doomer myself, but given the last three years of societal hard knocks where I've had to witness the most maddening of conformist mantras or celebration of totalitarianism in my everyday real life, can you really blame me? It does not help that I now despise where I live, and the social circles I once kept both IRL and online are pretty much gone just because I stuck my neck out about COVID, or 2020's election. Not to mention the troon brigade nearly bringing Kiwi Farms down these past few months... this is genuinely one of the last places on the internet I still cherish and that was almost taken away due to utter lies.

I try to stay positive and take my mind off of it with meaningful hobbies and the living I make from work. It's just... I guess I feel like I'm an East German (New Englander) staring at West Germany (The South) and feel determined to hop that iron curtain so the good I try to do will be meaningful instead of masking a constant grind that's killing my morale. I resolve to get where the grass is greener, so to speak.

 

[Dan Abrams]

everything in this shitty world is meaningless. none of it has any value. we live in a jewish hellscape wasteland. everything that you see around you exists to generate profit, to extract money from you. and you, if you participate, exist to extract money from everything else around you. it's one, giant, parasitic system of leeches leeching off leeches, a system will inevitably collapse at any given moment.

every single day, i find myself praying that hitler would return, so that my life could have meaning, so that something resembling hope would once again light up the world. but it never happens. i become more and more convinced that the world literally ended in 1945 and that everything we see, the world such as it is, is merely a strange illusion, a vast graveyard, and we're all just ghosts that somehow forgot we died in 1945.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I was complaining to him about how you see the same phenomena in internet right wing circles (He's not right wing) with doomerism, and definitely think it's the same bullshit as what the troons are doing but with a different stink.

So... you were doomering about @Save the Loli 's recent thread huh?

 

[WhatIsThePunchline]

I believe the west has moved into bureaucratic totalitarianism and it will move further in that direction as time goes on. It's a bit difficult to be happy with the death of the free world. But op is right that despair isn't going to help any either. Things will continue to decline, but we'll have to do the best we can.

 

[Megatardingo]

When we're sad together is less sad.

Also fart jokes make me forget about the abocalypse.

 

[The Great Chandler]

Not worth the stress if you love yourself. Leftists doom about how we might become a super Christian theocracy, rightists doom about how we might become a super homo Commie autocracy. Both are pretty wrong and dumb.