Woke Self-Owning in Tech

[Belisarius Cawl]

There's been a decent amount of content I've seen from Bryan Lunduke specifically that might fall too much under the rubric of "political sperging" for either the Linux or programming threads. Anyway, not too long ago, the Godot engine lost gobs of funding this year after their "Nazi" "purge":

Add to this the Linux Foundation removing any mention of DEI from their annual report and OpenSuSE being unable to get anyone to run for their board after filling the leadership with toxic assholes and I have to wonder what other great justice is happening these days.

 

[jray4559]

It might be a good thing I suppose but to be honest I will not say there is any justice until these cancerous identity politics-supporting people and terms are completely wiped away from society. It's on a down year, but down year is far far away from a permanent spiral into nonexistence, especially considering how many people still have jobs pushing this shit. Unless there is honest mass protests about this and sustained pressure on every corner all they're gonna do is repackage the divisiveness and try to push it again next year and the year after that.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

It might be a good thing I suppose but to be honest I will not say there is any justice until these cancerous identity politics-supporting people and terms are completely wiped away from society. It's on a down year, but down year is far far away from a permanent spiral into nonexistence, especially considering how many people still have jobs pushing this shit. Unless there is honest mass protests about this and sustained pressure on every corner all they're gonna do is repackage the divisiveness and try to push it again next year and the year after that.

Not in the tech sector but it seems worth noting that even the citizens of ultra-blue Portland eventually had their fill of the antifa "revolution":

https://abcnews.go.com/US/year-protests-portland-residents-waning-patience-antifa/story?id=77511470

The woke agenda can't succeed without somehow stuffing it down people's throats; there are limits to how insidious it can get.

 

[Red flaming panda]

I might be wrong about this, but I remember a lot of programmers even before the "woke controversy" were saying Godot wasn't that great of a game engine.

 

[Creepypasta Mario]

I might be wrong about this, but I remember a lot of programmers even before the "woke controversy" were saying Godot wasn't that great of a game engine.

It isn't. Development for the engine has been at such a snail's pace over the years that people spend more time making their own engines out of a fork of it than actually using the damn thing itself.
EDIT: Honestly the Godot moderators did the "Nazis" donors they purged a favor by forcing them to stop giving Godot Team any more money.

 

[Bussy Catalog]

It isn't. Development for the engine has been at such a snail's pace over the years that people spend more time making their own engines out of a fork of it than actually using the damn thing itself.
EDIT: Honestly the Godot moderators did the "Nazis" donors they purged a favor by forcing them to stop giving Godot Team any more money.

The only reason anyone knows about Godot is because it's the engine Ville Kallio used to make Cruelty Squad, a game that famously looks like deep fried garbage. Wouldn't be my first choice for any kind of serious project.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

The only reason anyone knows about Godot is because it's the engine Ville Kallio used to make Cruelty Squad, a game that famously looks like deep fried garbage. Wouldn't be my first choice for any kind of serious project.

Rewrite of Yandere Simulator in Godot when?

 

[Town Drunk]

Might qualify Game no one cared about/heard of won't release on PC to avoid modders making lewd mods

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

Might qualify Game no one cared about/heard of won't release on PC to avoid modders making lewd mods

I would say no because the game company in question is presumably acting in the interest of East Asian social conservatism rather than Western faggotry but thanks for suggestion anyway. And it does remind me of stuff like the realistic horse vulva mod in Skyrim and various rule 34 / lewd content added to Stardew Valley.

 

[Judge Dredd]

I might be wrong about this, but I remember a lot of programmers even before the "woke controversy" were saying Godot wasn't that great of a game engine.

Yes but...

There were a lot of "programmers" and "game developers" saying that, but this isn't a new thing. Game Maker was "babies first game engine" and not a "real engine" until Hotline Maimi. Unity was hated until Harthstone, etc. Basically, any engine or tool is not "real" in the eyes of these people until there's a smash hit, then suddenly everyone must jump ship and hope on the new engine. We're seeing it now with Love because of the success of Balatro.

I put "programmers" and "game developers" in quotes because, in my experience, they never make anything. They talk about "industry standard" tools and ways of making a game.


Obvious examples I don't know if is what the OP is looking for, but Ubisoft going bust, Bioware might be going bust, Remedy failed to make a profit on Alan Wake 2, Concord is the biggest failure in gaming history, etc. There's a whole bunch of gaming related cases of "get woke go broke".

 

[Obstacle]

Every time these retards take an L, and call it a W;

 

[AmpleApricots]

I have absolutely no hope whatsoever that this won't just swing the other way into the same struggle sessions and purity testing, just with a different set of politics

I'm so tired of this shit, man. From both "sides". There's a certain set of people that just thrive on this shit and usually bring absolutely nothing else to the table otherwise and it's incredibly tiresome to see them. Probably incredibly unpopular opinion here, but it needed to be said.

If some woke tranny makes good contributions to FOSS and doesn't pollute everything with politics, I literally don't care if he likes to wear dresses. Same goes for the other side, just shut up about "niggers" or trump or whatever. I don't *need* to know your political views and FOSS is not the platform to discuss them. Don't hold me hostage.

 

[Ducks Sorted in a Row]

I might be wrong about this, but I remember a lot of programmers even before the "woke controversy" were saying Godot wasn't that great of a game engine.

Honestly I don't hate it. I probably wouldn't choose it for a "serious" project, but for any 2D indie game or even some 3D games, it's perfectly competent, even if its inheritance-based entity model is dated at this point, it's useful enough. It's also a lot smaller and snappier than something like Unity, both in-editor and packaged builds, and is MIT licensed, so there are basically no licensing issues to think about when using it for whatever means you want.

 

[Obstacle]

If some woke tranny makes good contributions to FOSS and doesn't pollute everything with politics, I literally don't care if he likes to wear dresses. Same goes for the other side, just shut up about "niggers" or trump or whatever. I don't *need* to know your political views and FOSS is not the platform to discuss them. Don't hold me hostage.

In theory, most people would have no problem with this.
In practice, if you even see the tranny, it's because they're being pushed to front and center, lionized, placed in a position of unearned moral authority, and given carte blanche to label anybody who challenges them an untouchable.

Extreme backlash is not only inevitable, but will be a part of the natural healing process.
I am not a Hegelian.
I do not believe that destroying an idea, and the people who bear it will ensure it's resurgence.
Where are the Bogomils and Cathars?
Burnt ashes blown on the wind.
I believe in being thorough, and attacking the issue on all levels, root and branch.
You cannot destroy girly men, or crossdressing, or sexual deviancy.
But you can utterly disarticulate the trans movement, and discredit "transgender" as a concept for all time, leaving it a fringe issue with no purchase on the culture.
And until that is achieved, we cannot be said to have cleaned house.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

If some woke tranny makes good contributions to FOSS and doesn't pollute everything with politics, I literally don't care if he likes to wear dresses.

I believe that was the status quo at one point. In fact, yes, I remember all the Sourceforge software of Chris Korda, a troon who has offered the world various other contributions such as a music video about jacking off to 9/11:

https://www.chriskorda.com/software.html

 

[Calvin Gabriel]

If some woke tranny makes good contributions to FOSS and doesn't pollute everything with politics, I literally don't care if he likes to wear dresses.

People who just want to be left alone will always lose to people trying to usurp control. With trannies I have yet to meet or even hear of one who doesn't participate or cheer on this shit. Never associate with members of the tranny cult, because they will always ask for more until anything good you had going turns into the same pile of crap as everywhere else.

 

[Belisarius Cawl]

People who just want to be left alone will always lose to people trying to usurp control. With trannies I have yet to meet or even hear of one who doesn't participate or cheer on this shit. Never associate with members of the tranny cult, because they will always ask for more until anything good you had going turns into the same pile of crap as everywhere else.

I know of transtesticles who have nothing to do with any of that cancer

 

[Overwritten Tapes]

I remember having problems with having others check my web development work on github, because they used the version of an app that used MAIN instead of MASTER directory. Mine was master as default, and no one could figure out why my shit only worked on one other persons computer. We had the same version, not the updated woke version.

 

[SigueSigueSpergnik]

In theory, most people would have no problem with this.
In practice, if you even see the tranny, it's because they're being pushed to front and center, lionized, placed in a position of unearned moral authority, and given carte blanche to label anybody who challenges them an untouchable.

Extreme backlash is not only inevitable, but will be a part of the natural healing process.
I am not a Hegelian.
I do not believe that destroying an idea, and the people who bear it will ensure it's resurgence.
Where are the Bogomils and Cathars?
Burnt ashes blown on the wind.
I believe in being thorough, and attacking the issue on all levels, root and branch.
You cannot destroy girly men, or crossdressing, or sexual deviancy.
But you can utterly disarticulate the trans movement, and discredit "transgender" as a concept for all time, leaving it a fringe issue with no purchase on the culture.
And until that is achieved, we cannot be said to have cleaned house.

At which point, the next group of usefully-oppressed idiots will be anointed and the cycle will start over again.

Situations like the ones we're seeing today have been in a large part allowed to flourish by way of the 'you can't say that' mentality. This prevents the truth from being spoken, and opens up an opportunity for someone else to insert their own, even if only by letting harmful ideologies stand unchallenged.

Until we (meaning those of us who live in countries that tacitly or explicitly encourage this type of behaviour) stop letting ourselves be manoeuvred or bullied into the position of being unable to speak the obvious truth, this shit will continue ad infinitum.

 

[Obstacle]

At which point, the next group of usefully-oppressed idiots will be anointed and the cycle will start over again.

Situations like the ones we're seeing today have been in a large part allowed to flourish by way of the 'you can't say that' mentality. This prevents the truth from being spoken, and opens up an opportunity for someone else to insert their own, even if only by letting harmful ideologies stand unchallenged.

Until we (meaning those of us who live in countries that tacitly or explicitly encourage this type of behaviour) stop letting ourselves be manoeuvred or bullied into the position of being unable to speak the obvious truth, this shit will continue ad infinitum.

Honestly?
I feel like the worst excesses of such an eventuality, can be curbed by teaching to be cynical about people who claim to be "Victimized" over and over again, and seem to do nothing but profit from it.

Fake Victim should carry the same weight as Dog Fucker.