Would you support a boycott against the UK and EU over the hate-speech arrests?

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Saw on another thread that Britain went after yet another hapless couple of teens on social media recently. Hauled them in for hatethink when they shitposted a video clowning the George Floyd thing.

At this point it's impossible for them to keep lecturing other countries about "human rights" and "democracy" without looking like barking hypocrites in the eyes of the world...and we overseas are no better if we just shrug and let them keep pulling this hamfisted shit.

Would it accomplish anything though...or just make them double down on dealing with China instead?

If it would be useless...can anything practical be done?
 
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ClownBrew said:
Saw on another thread that Britain went after yet another hapless couple of teens on social media recently. Hauled them in for hatethink when they shitposted a video clowning the George Floyd thing.

At this point it's impossible for them to keep lecturing other countries about "human rights" and "democracy" without looking like barking hypocrites in the eyes of the world...and we overseas are no better if we just shrug and let them keep pulling this hamfisted shit.

Would it accomplish anything though...or just make them double down on dealing with China instead?

If it would be useless...can anything practical be done?
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I can't rate you dumb or autistic in the thunderdome so instead I'm replying to this to tell you that you are both dumb and autistic.
 
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It's up to the people who live there to fix. Clearly enough of the people who live there are happy with the law as it stands.

Also, the right to 'freedom of speech' makes little difference in practice. Sure, in the US you might not be arrested and charged for speech, but you're just as likely to lose your job, receive death threats and harassment and become a social pariah, plus if you're posting on a privately-owned platform you can be banned and have whatever you wrote removed.
 
j666 said:
god i wish i could rate this dumb
yes, let's boycott an entire country over something that happened 7 months ago lmfao
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Speaking of dumb do you think that was the only time it's happened?

How many more of these incidents are okay with you when they shouldn't even be getting away with even one?
 
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Beautiful Border said:
Sure, in the US you might not be arrested and charged for speech, but you're just as likely to lose your job, receive death threats and harassment and become a social pariah, plus if you're posting on a privately-owned platform you can be banned and have whatever you wrote removed.
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Big difference between any of that and actually having a state government jail you for expressing opinions.
 
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ClownBrew said:
If it would be useless...can anything practical be done?
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No. Especially if you're not a UK citizen.

Their country is just as fucked as us in the US, they're just farther down the road than we are currently. If you're a UK citizen you could protest and the like, but all that's going to do is get you fired and/or injured unless it's for the right state-approved reason. In reality there's not much you can do especially on an individual level, unless you're some billionaire that has financial power, or you take some kind of insane terroristic action (completely discouraged).
 
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Should we support a boycott on the USA because it's their culture that caused things like this in the first place?
 
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Wingnut said:
No. Especially if you're not a UK citizen.

Their country is just as fucked as us in the US, they're just farther down the road than we are currently. If you're a UK citizen you could protest and the like, but all that's going to do is get you fired and/or injured unless it's for the right state-approved reason. In reality there's not much you can do especially on an individual level, unless you're some billionaire that has financial power, or you take some kind of insane terroristic action (completely discouraged).
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I don't mean some individual level thing along the lines of the "freedom fries" stunt and the dumping of French wine. I mean could multiple entire countries get some kind of mass embargo going if enough member states would sign on?

And if it would be pointless or impossible...do you think there might be any kind of alternative that could work?
 
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Boycotts never work. Why would it work this time, especially against an entire country?
 
I don't think citizen boycotts can really still happen. People were "bowling alone" even before covid.
 
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personal, grassroots boycotts work in the context of a village or small town at most, that's where a couple people banding together to shun a business can actually have a big enough impact to negatively impact the business owners bottom line.

but when it's about large scale entities like international corporations or even entire nation states? your boycott is a farce, achieves nothing except make you look dumb. to actually hit these entities you would have to mass organize a gigantic amount of people to join in on your boycott, and any sort of organizing against globohomo is impossible because as soon as it appears even vaguely threatening the combined forces of the tech industry, the media, the government and various NGOs will start coming down on you and tear you apart.
 
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ClownBrew said:
I don't mean some individual level thing along the lines of the "freedom fries" stunt and the dumping of French wine. I mean could multiple entire countries get some kind of mass embargo going if enough member states would sign on?

And if it would be pointless or impossible...do you think there might be any kind of alternative that could work?
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If the US treated the UK like Cuba or Iran that would have an effect, but that's not a boycott, that's geopolitics. Joe Normal can't vote with his wallet that way.
 
No because they put those people in power in the first place. They're just getting what they asked for.
 
Dr. Geronimo said:
Lmao what the fuck do they have to boycott?
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ARM designs and develops the chipery used in just about every mobile phone and tablet on the planet, plus a bunch of other embedded applications. They license designs to all the major manufacturers, and despite their recent merger they are still headquartered in Cambridge.

A whole bunch of your snacks are manufactured by in the UK.

The UK is one of your larger sources of pharmaceuticals and specialised chemicals, and you also import a significant quantity of motor vehicles and specialised electrical and electronic equipment from us, such as electric motors, as well as bespoke, precision engineering and short-run manufactured goods.

There's actually quite a lot you could boycott just from the UK. It might even damage our economy, though "we" could probably make up the difference by fucking with the financial markets some more.

Quite frankly, you people all keep blaming the jews for everything, but if you'd actually paid attention for even a moment you'd realise that it was the English all along.

The anglo is eternal, and he has all your chocolate.
 
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Coffee Shits said:
If the US treated the UK like Cuba or Iran that would have an effect, but that's not a boycott, that's geopolitics. Joe Normal can't vote with his wallet that way.
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This is what I had in mind. Probably should have used the word "embargo" instead of "boycott" but figured people would just associate it with neocons & Cuba.

Mr. Manchester said:
No because they put those people in power in the first place. They're just getting what they asked for.
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Adult voters in their prime for sure-- but this isn't the first time they've picked on kids with this shit. Remember the fourteen year old girl they hauled in for tweeting a rap lyric? or the frail old man they took away for mumbling a slur under his breath at a gypsy neighbor from hell?
 
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