YABookgate

[Heinrich Maneuver]

Does this moron (Audra Winter, not the youtuber) have a thread? This whole saga is deserving of one imo.

Sorry to re-tag you, but Krimson Rogue released a video on the book today, fucking nine hours long, but the first hour is a breakdown of what happened, the rest is going through the book in Krimson's usual excruciating detail.
He does call her Milo but I'll give him a pass for being brave enough to actually read and critique the novel line by line (like an editor should have), and he usually doesn't mince words about how bad a book is.

 

[Kari Kamiya]

Please pray for me kiwis; someone I know wrote a fantasy YA novel and she has asked me to beta read it.

The world is ready for a new crucifix nail nipples legend.

 

[Mellorine]

The Audra Winter thing might have made a fun thread while it was ongoing, but her activity came in bursts and not the steady stream of social media lunacy that tends to capture Kiwi attention.

Quite a few youtubers have covered the whole mess in detail, though you have to be able to tolerate listening to libshit catladies/lesbians/femboys tiptoe around the fact they're milking a lolcow. This playlist from the channel "Laura Rae Says" is one of the more in-depth and complete.

 

[Greedy Fly]

The world is ready for a new crucifix nail nipples legend.

So far its biggest sin is being bland. It doesn't appear to be smut, or even romance, thank god. More like she wrote up a utopia she's deeply in love with and wants to tell everyone about her perfect society in great detail. Tedious but I'll probably survive.

 

[Flexo]

Please pray for me kiwis; someone I know wrote a fantasy YA novel and she has asked me to beta read it.

"Hail Tolkien, full of based..."

 

[TheAmbiguousLurker]

Please pray for me kiwis; someone I know wrote a fantasy YA novel and she has asked me to beta read it.

So far its biggest sin is being bland. It doesn't appear to be smut, or even romance, thank god. More like she wrote up a utopia she's deeply in love with and wants to tell everyone about her perfect society in great detail. Tedious but I'll probably survive.

So, we should send you unedited smutty romance manuscripts; got it.

 

[That Witch]

I'm really upset Bad Sex in Fiction Awards are no longer a thing because this sounds like a winner.

Be the change!

 

[Fcret]

The only criticism I've ever seen of Sanderson online is that it's slop for 12 year olds written by a guy who's obviously only ever read manga.

Better than most new books, which are written by women who've only read AO3/Wattpad.

>cal arts grad
what the fuck are they doing to students over there, seriously.

Well first of all you have to live in California to attend.

Does anyone have an update on These Wicked Gods? The Chinky Roman book. It's sequel was supposed to be out I could have sworn, has it been quietly canned due to the FASCIST romance?

Sequel is scheduled for Feb 2027. You can preorder it on Amazon:


And no - it's fetish material written by an ethnic woman so it'll never get canned. In fact, the controversy only makes it more desirable for publishers.

Speaking of which - I wonder how well these books do outside the US? I know English smut lit has a huge market abroad and in translation, but I wonder if this kind of stuff actually sells well in East Asia. Are there Asian femcels in Asia self-inserting and shlicking it to the Naziroman ryona novel?

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

Speaking of which - I wonder how well these books do outside the US? I know English smut lit has a huge market abroad and in translation, but I wonder if this kind of stuff actually sells well in East Asia. Are there Asian femcels in Asia self-inserting and shlicking it to the Naziroman ryona novel?

One thing I've noticed is that the chinks fucking LOVE period dramas. I mean it's obvious with how many of their shows appear on western streaming sites; fair maiden falls in love with a chinese ruler wearing one of those curtain-bead hats. Or how many chinese vtubers likewise are the most boring-ass male period characters with thousand of female viewers. Or manga. Those mf'ers love their past history and I can assume any such regal/dynasty-based drama.

So basically, make horny prince and chaste fair lady fuck amidst war and you got the slinty races covered.

 

[Jay Jay]

So one of my friends showed me this, and I knew I just fucking HAD to share it here. I present to you, Kiwis, an utterly and completely frivolous lawsuit by one dogshit YA writer, Lynne Freeman against another dogshit YA writer, Tracy Wolff; the former accusing the latter of copyright infringement. However, that's not the fun part, YA authors having catfights happens on every day ending in Y. No, the actual interesting thing here is the 160 page ruling against Freeman - because the Court had to read ALL of both authors books to make it. And he is so fucking exhausted, guys.

I've attached the pdf of the ruling, and here's the link to it if you wanna read, but I just wanted to show off some highlights.



This poor fucking bastard, dude. It took the judge 8 weeks to read all this shit, and he had to make summaries of all this generic slop and enter it into official government records.



Literally cannot stop laughing at the idea of this moron trying to copyright the state of Alaska.



"Hot, sexy, dangerous boys cannot be copyrighted" may just be an all timer quote.



If you thought copyrighting Alaska was bad, how about trying to copyright the phrase "things that go bump in the night"?

My god, what absolute fucking insanity the YA sphere can be. Genuinely some of the funniest shit I've seen all year.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

The amount of fucking gay sport smut I see in the bookstore, gag. I know that sporty women- football, rugby- are more likely to be dykes but jesus christ, volleyball, cheerleading? There's always something weirdly anti-lesbian about the F/F books I see as well, like it's always... aesthetic rather than 'actual lesbians', if that makes sense? None of the muff-divers I know like that stuff and complain to me about how they never feel like they 'get' the lesbian experience, it's always ''queer'' women who read them as well (if any lesbians have any thoughts pls chip in)

They all have the exact same cover as well, the copying is insane. It's no longer just mere trend chasing, it's straight up copying to maximise clicks/shares/reads, from the near identical covers to characters. The case above is pretty stupid and feels like bitchy girl drama rather than an actual serious case; but there are some books that just outright steal from other novels or films, or real people.
There's some insane 'coincidences' in Silver Elite with it just being Reylo, and a lot of these Dramione YA novels are just Draco + Hermione. Going to court over it is retarded tho, YA has always had plagiarisers (Cassandra Clare comes to mind for copying Harry Potter fanfics iirc, Throne of Glass was ''inspired'' by Daenerys Targaryen to the point that the author forbids all ASOIAF mentions on her twitter)

From twitter, for those of you who wonder why men aren't reading modern literature. The use of 'thirtysomething' is... usually a 'coming of age'/awakening type novel is for late teens characters, or twenty somethings. woof

 

[zeroapexpeak]

for those of you who wonder why men aren't reading modern literature

"It's been years since I last went to a bookstore, I think I'll go check one out. I wonder why I stopped going"

"Oh yeah, now I remember"

 

[Kari Kamiya]

There's always something weirdly anti-lesbian about the F/F books I see as well, like it's always... aesthetic rather than 'actual lesbians', if that makes sense? None of the muff-divers I know like that stuff and complain to me about how they never feel like they 'get' the lesbian experience, it's always ''queer'' women who read them as well (if any lesbians have any thoughts pls chip in)

Because they're written by Tumblr qweers who never left the fanfiction scene, that's why.

 

[Henri Barbusse]

Because they're written by Tumblr qweers who never left the fanfiction scene, that's why.

I wouldn't be sure it's Tumblr queers, it's just as likely it's heterosexual women who normally write M/M. They have to write some uninspired F/F once in a while to keep up the pretense they're not just writing to get off. And when these types get published professionally, it's likely with editors and publishers who are the same as them, so they put out some F/F no one wants to read and claim that they're diverse and inclusive, not just another publisher of gay porn for women.

 

[The Potatomatic 2000]

And the day has come when the terminally online fandom she herself cultivated is coming to cancel RF Kuang. (I already love the fact she covers up the fact she is called Rebecca. She is literally a Becky. )

Apparently, in her new book, Taipei Story, she mentions some Israeli person... in a positive way! Bitches are having mental breakdowns. This is especially kino as Becky is known for compulsively searching the mentions of her own name.
They could forgive her for being an Oppression Victim who got paid into 3 elite schools by her rich business parents. I mean, they could pretend she is totally a genius and not at all a nepo baby whose parents got her stuff. Also, it must be extremely difficult to be one of the 7 gorillion Chinese kids that go to university. Isolating. I bet white children asked her what she is eating and that made her ashamed of her heritage, until she saw Turning Red, then she realized being Asian is actually GOOD.
BUT THIS!

Oh, also, the fag hag bitch who wrote those gay hockey books is also being cancelled, but I am not nearly autistic enough to pick through the shit women who flick the bean to gay porn by other women say. That's too far, even for me.

 

[Heinrich Maneuver]

the fag hag bitch who wrote those gay hockey books is also being cancelled

She wrote one character so shallowly (and an accidental "eating disorder" aka a gym bro) that people started assuming he was Autistic, so she now claims him as Autism Rep or smth, and then got cancelled for it. Mind you, this is TikTok so the understanding of Autism is "girl with anxiety" lol.

RFKuang is a wild one because her WHOLE THING is "anti-colonialism" and "overthrowing empires" (never ask a Chinaman what he thinks of the Tibetans), her whole audience is people who get their politics from social media; it's a beyond retarded move when you KNOW your audience is insane and fickle about the Israel Question to just make a Good Guy Israeli character. If she made him Palestinian she'd be Author of the Year. She's a chronic namesearcher as well, it must be killing her to see people talking about how they are never going to read her books again.

Man, being a Trendy Author must be rough, your clock is ticking girl!