Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[RodgerDodger]

Answering from pages back so I don’t forget

see the John Bulla thread (sexually). I think Bulla is exactly where Greer is heading, except I see Greer being less benign and more feral.

“Harmless” goof Bulla ended up publicly and violently freaking out on what I think were neighbors. Female of course. Jailed for the last few years and kinda recently died in jail from Covid

Bulla was an actual barking mad paranoid schizophrenic. He was nuts, but he wasn't actually evil. Russ is not nuts, at least not in the "hears voices and picks up radio signals on his dental work" way that poor Bulla was. He's just dark and twisted evil. Like Gollum in Lord of the Rings. Except his "precious" is "Hookers".

Okay here is my prediction. It may sound far fetched but hear me out:

He's been more or less run out of Utah and I don't think he'll be in Nevada much longer. Russ has always had a toxic profile online, but this is spilling over. Sex Workers have a network and are effective at getting information dispersed, as we are seeing in real time. He was already banned from a number of the ranches and if there wasn't already a blanket ban throughout the state, there will be now. His PAC is done. And if I had to guess, his stalking of college campuses are going to get him in serious shit soon. Based on what he's apparently been saying to these college girls, he probably sounds like a fucking human trafficker.

This is a pretty common thing with trafficking rings - they like to use seemingly pitiable people to lure people in - often disabled or people pretending to be. It's a way to make people lower their guard - think Buffalo Bill and his "broken arm" in Silence of the Lambs.

You have Russ on college campuses, trying to recruit women into his "PAC" that involves sex work. It's only a matter of time before it goes beyond the schools telling him to fuck off. We know Russ doesn't know when to stop in situations like this. So I figure It's only a matter of time before the cops bring him in for questioning. Then they look into his history and see his stalking charge...

At the very least, he is not staying employed in Nevada for very long. On top of that,, I doubt anyone else will hire him after that.. And with The PAC destroyed and all the ranch doors closed to him, he'll pretty much be run out of town.

I don't see him going back to his parents', even if they would take him. There's clearly a lot of resentment there, on both sides. Sure, the Greers is legitimate, but we know Magical Star Buddy doesn't see it that way.

I think he's going to try and reconnect with his birth family again.

If I remember correctly, his sister is some sort of fashion photographer in LA with show business connections - connections Russ is obviously entitled to, along with her affections.

Russ likes to think of himself as a sort of romantic, inspiring hero. If you look at how Russ sees himself, it's something out of a Disney movie. Romantic, disabled outcast who only ever pursued his dreams of true love and making it big on his writing and musical talents and has nowhere else to go rides west to California to reconnect with the very family who rejected him and meet the long lost twin sister who may finally be able to get him a shot at his show business dreams! And of course, now that he has "grown" from who he was five years ago, his sister will see in person what a good guy he is, hook him up with one of her famous friends, who Russ moved with his talent, tales of plights, and gentlemanly attitudes. Then Katy Perry really does suck him his penis and get him his record deal.

Russ likes returning to wells again and again. Right now returning to Taylor or Ariana will just get him lambasted again since that "international news" has been revived again. He has almost definitely given up on AGT again for the time being, so what else?

I definitely think at the very least Russ is going to have to relocate in a major way shortly. And my bet is that from there he heads to LA and try to force a connection with his birth family again.

Thoughts?

So we figure the 'ol Russhole will soon be limited to methed up LA street Hookers? At least the ones that don't read the Interwebz?

And yeah his sister really needs to file for some sort of restraining order should Russhole seek to re-litigate his way into her life.

 

[Cheesegirl78]

Russell is going to stay where he is for now, that boy ain't going anywhere.

 

[Kosher Salt]

When someone is ordered to disgorge their profits from an otherwise unenforceable contract, it is not under contract law but the equitable principle of unjust enrichment. So if the plaintiff comes to the situation himself with unclean hands, the court can decline to make such an order.

I was speaking of a hypothetical future scenario where prostitution's legal, so the contract is legal and enforceable, and people are worried about a court ordering specific performance (i.e. ordering a ho to fuck somebody she doesn't want to fuck).

That's an ordinary breach of contract and it seems like there'd be ordinary remedies involving the exchange of currency, not sex acts.

 

[RazorBackBacon]

think Buffalo Bill and his "broken arm" in Silence of the Lambs

Fun fact: that scene was a combination of two real life serial killer strategies. Ted Bundy would fake having a broken arm to get sympathy, and another guy (Brudos iirc but don't quote me) would pretend to be struggling with furniture.

At least the ones that don't read the Interwebz?

Man, where have you been? Even the really cheap hookers have gone digital these days. Way better chances to filter out the rough johns and less static from cops. Also you get to sit in your flophouse apartment instead of freezing your tits off standing on a streetcorner.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

This woman is a fucking machine.

Seriously, she's as much an honorary Kiwi as Skordas at this point. Except she seems like she might actually like us, lmao. And the pepper spraying her way into Gamestop thing at least makes me think she knows exactly who we are.

Whorebitter, take my uprates in spirit.

 

[RodgerDodger]

This woman is a fucking machine.

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Seriously, she's as much an honorary Kiwi as Skordas at this point. Except she seems like she might actually like us, lmao. And the pepper spraying her way into Gamestop thing at least makes me think she knows exactly who we are.

Whorebitter, take my uprates in spirit.

We should have hired hookers years ago. I mean who knew they were more efficient and downright nastier than lawyers?

 

[AnOminous]

I was speaking of a hypothetical future scenario where prostitution's legal, so the contract is legal and enforceable, and people are worried about a court ordering specific performance (i.e. ordering a ho to fuck somebody she doesn't want to fuck).

That's an ordinary breach of contract and it seems like there'd be ordinary remedies involving the exchange of currency, not sex acts.

That's why I don't think it should happen. I don't think courts would actually start enforcing such contracts, but even the possibility of it is intolerable. I don't think fake hookers should be able to go around stealing money either but there are already remedies for that.

 

[JustSomeDong]

This whore just referenced Dirk Gently to dunk on this greaseball and I couldn't be any happier in this moment.

 

[Kosher Salt]

That's why I don't think it should happen. I don't think courts would actually start enforcing such contracts, but even the possibility of it is intolerable. I don't think fake hookers should be able to go around stealing money either but there are already remedies for that.

What's the difference? Like I said, specific performance won't be available (and to make sure, the legislature could simply say it's not). The only question is going to be whether the hooker owes the john money.

The only significant difference that I can see is that if there's a valid and enforceable contract, if the john does something like buy a plane ticket and then the hooker breaches the contract without a valid reason, the cost of the plane ticket could probably be rolled into the damages.

 

[Disgruntled Pupper]

Bulla was an actual barking mad paranoid schizophrenic. He was nuts, but he wasn't actually evil.

Bulla raped his step daughter during a time of his life when his schizophrenia was a lot more controlled and a lot less intrusive than it was when we knew him, which is what landed him in his trailer in the pedo park. Bulla was hilarious, he's one of my ultimate favorite cows, but he was evil and inflicted real damage on real people.

 

[AnOminous]

What's the difference? Like I said, specific performance won't be available (and to make sure, the legislature could simply say it's not).

Something very similar to that happened in Germany where some unemployment comp agencies tried to force women into prostitution. Unless there's something specifically prohibiting it, it could happen under normal contract law, and I don't think that's a can of worms we should open.

Snopes claims this is false but it's bullshit and directly under another hit from Spiegel, who I think know more about what is going on in Germany. It also wasn't a routine practice and was shut down quickly, but at least a couple of the articles cite specific but unnamed cases, and funny thing is it's these very articles that they don't even mention.

In any event, whether that particular tale is true, it's somewhere we shouldn't go, and enforcing such a thing via contract law gives it legitimacy. I can think of plenty of situations where, on the other hand, a john shouldn't get his money back if the reason the hooker reneged on the deal is he was Russell Greer.

 

[DrNow]

Who is Yovanna? Is she happy about that song? I just discovered this lolcow today. The idea of a creep forming a prostitute support network to try and get discounts from sex workers. It’s the kind of insanity that turned me into a lolcow connoisseur.

 

[L. Ron Hubbard's Cat]

Who is Yovanna? Is she happy about that song? I just discovered this lolcow today. The idea of a creep forming a prostitute support network to try and get discounts from sex workers. It’s the kind of insanity that turned me into a lolcow connoisseur.

You call yourself a lolcow connoisseur and you've only just discovered Greer? Hrm. Alright. It's like, I'm a bit of an oenophile, me, and I just heard of this new stuff called... what was it... bo jollay? Something like that.

Anyway. Russ is... a lot. Even just answering "Who is Yovanna?" requires a fair bit of explanation, backstory, some psych sperging, references to Russ's fantasies, obsessions, and lawsuits (and fanciful lawsuits about his obsessions). So without meaning to be a complete cunt, I have to refer you to the OP and the Russ's Greatest Hits post as a primer.

Good luck.

 

[The Dude]

This woman is a fucking machine.

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Seriously, she's as much an honorary Kiwi as Skordas at this point. Except she seems like she might actually like us, lmao. And the pepper spraying her way into Gamestop thing at least makes me think she knows exactly who we are.

Whorebitter, take my uprates in spirit.

This British Bawd is a natural born Kiwi, and I do hope she joins up some day to come shitpost with us about Russhole. And I hope she and her fellow floozies continue to feed Shit-Lips into the woodchipper on social media. This has just been an incredible thing to witness.

 

[Miami]

Wow. He's such a professional creep he managed to not only get himself mega nuked by the Europeans but also get his ass blasted open on Twitter with all his previous Shock Jock Joke Content plastered up for all to see next to his precious PAC.

He should've known to keep his dick in his pants when on social media but every minute not spent showing How Great He Is For Sex Workers in between browsing porn and perving is a minute lost where he could be getting pussy, and we all know Russell can't have that as he is incapable of seeing women as anything other than possible fuckmaids.

I look forward to his eventual update to the case where he tries to use this Very Mean Bully's words as further proof Kiwi Farms is the attack dogs under Moon and Skordas's attempt to blast Greer into the sun.

 

[DumbDude42]

specific performance won't be available (and to make sure, the legislature could simply say it's not). The only question is going to be whether the hooker owes the john money.

courts enforcing the contract in the sense of "we order that the defendant must immediately suck mr. greer his penis!" maybe not, but on paper the courts would be open to anti discrimination suits and related shenanigans.

like, we already have situations where a company denies some nignogs job application, then some NGO links up with him to sue the company for discrimination, and suddenly the company finds itself in a position where it has to prove in court that it did NOT discriminate based on race, or face a big fine for civil rights infractions.
in theory, similar things would be on the table with legalized prostitution. turning down a client who is part of some protected class might get the hooker sued, and the threat of that alone would probably be enough for russell type creeps to coerce and force their way into a hookers underwear, just like it is already enough for unqualified diversity hires to worm their way into profitable jobs in companies all over the place.

 

[KiwiFarmerSimulator2021]

I think the issue wouldn't be that nobody wants to pay, but who exactly would be interested in a male hooker that physically cannot close their mouth.* There are plenty of Ed Buck-types out there that would pay a premium for that.

* On another note it baffles me that he doesn't do something with his gaping maw. Orthodontic elastics could at least keep his mouth closed and they are super simple to remove. You could go hi-tech and hook up a TENS module to fire the muscles his brain can't. Some kind of Bane like chinstrap even. For fuck's sake, even this would be an improvement:
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This made no sense to me initially but i presume it lets you rim and chin fuck while keeping your hands free to reconcile your QuickBooks account.

 

[Bamanda]

I wonder where he’ll go now that the demon queen has single-handedly blown up his visions of having an endless supply of grateful Vegas hookers lining up to work in his neon palace. It seems like that’s been his focus after his career as a Grammy award winning songwriter sagged off the side of a cliff.

I won’t wind up the kiwis sick of the ‘could he be violent’ discourse anymore than they already are, but he is definitely worth a watching in the coming weeks. I’m so glad our courtesan is far enough away that he can’t get to her, reeeewatching the Alison crying video made my blood creep. You can actually see the points where his anger overwhelms him and he almost punches himself.

What’s his next big money move?

 

[nemesisAF]

Bulla raped his step daughter during a time of his life when his schizophrenia was a lot more controlled and a lot less intrusive than it was when we knew him, which is what landed him in his trailer in the pedo park. Bulla was hilarious, he's one of my ultimate favorite cows, but he was evil and inflicted real damage on real people.

I concur that medicated/stable Bulla was evil AF and I wasn’t trying to make strong correlations between their pasts or diagnoses per se.

My correlations were more focused on (1) Bulla’s misleading Gilligan-like affect once he became a known cow and (2) Bulla’s expression of his sexuality via an obsession with models or celebrities and his entitlement to them

 

[Attractive Sexhaver]

That hooker needs to get into a specific sex work niche where people on the Internet pay her to humiliate Russ.